canbuffan34 Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 Finally got a day off work and decided to rewatch all the games, without any stats to back my observations I can tell you that although Evans is the deep threat (sorry for the blatant obvious remark) it is Reed that moves the chains for this offense. Success moving forward is painfully simple, Trent + Reed = W's Could any of you hardworking statisticians (sp?) please post Reeds receiving #'s in victories, as well as his # of 3rd down catches resulting in first downs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Finally got a day off work and decided to rewatch all the games, without any stats to back my observations I can tell you that although Evans is the deep threat (sorry for the blatant obvious remark) it is Reed that moves the chains for this offense. Success moving forward is painfully simple, Trent + Reed = W's Could any of you hardworking statisticians (sp?) please post Reeds receiving #'s in victories, as well as his # of 3rd down catches resulting in first downs? The stats are as follows: When posting "dubs" in da B-LO... Reed has "bookoo" receptions When posting losses in da B-LO... Reed has no receptions Moving on... Dick said WHIP IT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Reed has been the most clutch WR we've had in the last 2 years. He was becoming JP's go to guy towards the end there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Finally got a day off work and decided to rewatch all the games, without any stats to back my observations I can tell you that although Evans is the deep threat (sorry for the blatant obvious remark) it is Reed that moves the chains for this offense. Success moving forward is painfully simple, Trent + Reed = W's Could any of you hardworking statisticians (sp?) please post Reeds receiving #'s in victories, as well as his # of 3rd down catches resulting in first downs? Reed is getting open AND hangs onto the ball. Don't know that can be said accross the board regarding the other receivers. I haven't been able to review games to see if Evans is having problems getting open deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Finally got a day off work and decided to rewatch all the games, without any stats to back my observations I can tell you that although Evans is the deep threat (sorry for the blatant obvious remark) it is Reed that moves the chains for this offense. Success moving forward is painfully simple, Trent + Reed = W's Could any of you hardworking statisticians (sp?) please post Reeds receiving #'s in victories, as well as his # of 3rd down catches resulting in first downs? Well - the Reed/Edwards connection was a force against a 1-9 KC team lead by a Tyler Thigpen offense that served up 5 turnovers... Thigpen was the 1st-ever QB for Coastal Carolina, when they started a football program in 2004. A 7th round pick by MIN in the '07 draft, KC plucked him off of waivers. Myself - I wait to proclaim the return of Reed as a reason for a resurrection of TE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted November 28, 2008 Share Posted November 28, 2008 Reed is getting open AND hangs onto the ball. Don't know that can be said accross the board regarding the other receivers. I haven't been able to review games to see if Evans is having problems getting open deep. I think Evans is still the "go to guy" but when there's nobody playing opposite him, defenses can work to shut him down. Let's look at the list of players who could play that crucial second receiver role: Roscoe Parish- Trent has confessed that he loses him out there, that Roscoe's simply too small to be seen amidst the traffic of defensive players. Also, while I have no way of substantiating this claim, I have to believe that lil Roscoe isn't the best run-blocker in the world. James Hardy- obviously he hasn't undergone the rapid development we were all hoping for. While it's obviously not impossible for rookie WR's to get caught up to speed (Deshaun Jackson, Eddie Royal), it's definitely rare. But while rookie players have demonstrated that Jauron and company may have had them reigned in too tight, that they were in fact ready to go once they got their chance, James HAS had his chances, and he didn't capitalize. Which brings us to: Steve Johnson: he's a seventh round rookie. Nuff said. Justin Jenkins: I've never been to training camp, so I've never seen this guy play. But he's been hanging around long enough now, that he's got SOME things working for him, but clearly not enough to get it all together. So, while Josh Reed takes this offense to a new level, and while he IS having a very very good year (finally caught a TD, woo hoo!)- I think it's more the case that he's really the only competent #2 option for us at the moment. Hopefully Hardy figures it out sooner rather than later. Given his physical tools, if Hardy played with the same craftiness and skill as Reed, the Evans, Reed, Hardy combo could be the best receiving corps in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticlaw Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Finally got a day off work and decided to rewatch all the games, without any stats to back my observations I can tell you that although Evans is the deep threat (sorry for the blatant obvious remark) it is Reed that moves the chains for this offense. Success moving forward is painfully simple, Trent + Reed = W's Could any of you hardworking statisticians (sp?) please post Reeds receiving #'s in victories, as well as his # of 3rd down catches resulting in first downs? Of course its crystal clear anyone who is behind the 10 yard marker is is go to reciever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Well, the Bills ARE 6 & 0 with both Trent and Josh in the line-up together for a full game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 Well - the Reed/Edwards connection was a force against a 1-9 KC team lead by a Tyler Thigpen offense that served up 5 turnovers... Thigpen was the 1st-ever QB for Coastal Carolina, when they started a football program in 2004. A 7th round pick by MIN in the '07 draft, KC plucked him off of waivers. Myself - I wait to proclaim the return of Reed as a reason for a resurrection of TE. I don't see how thigpen being a 7th round pick relates to reed/edwards. Was Thigpen covering reed or was he rushing Edwards? Yes the Chiefs are not a great team. But it is obvious that Edwards looks for Reed and him being in the lineup helps. I do wish he would have been able to hit more receivers in the absence of Reed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robkmil Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 James Hardy- obviously he hasn't undergone the rapid development we were all hoping for. While it's obviously not impossible for rookie WR's to get caught up to speed (Deshaun Jackson, Eddie Royal), it's definitely rare. But while rookie players have demonstrated that Jauron and company may have had them reigned in too tight, that they were in fact ready to go once they got their chance, James HAS had his chances, and he didn't capitalize. Which brings us to: Steve Johnson: he's a seventh round rookie. Nuff said. When given the opportunity Johnson has made plays. He might be a late round steal for the bills. Seems a little more polished than Hardy so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrFishfinder Posted November 29, 2008 Share Posted November 29, 2008 I think Evans is still the "go to guy" but when there's nobody playing opposite him, defenses can work to shut him down. Let's look at the list of players who could play that crucial second receiver role: Roscoe Parish- Trent has confessed that he loses him out there, that Roscoe's simply too small to be seen amidst the traffic of defensive players. Also, while I have no way of substantiating this claim, I have to believe that lil Roscoe isn't the best run-blocker in the world. James Hardy- obviously he hasn't undergone the rapid development we were all hoping for. While it's obviously not impossible for rookie WR's to get caught up to speed (Deshaun Jackson, Eddie Royal), it's definitely rare. But while rookie players have demonstrated that Jauron and company may have had them reigned in too tight, that they were in fact ready to go once they got their chance, James HAS had his chances, and he didn't capitalize. Which brings us to: Steve Johnson: he's a seventh round rookie. Nuff said. Justin Jenkins: I've never been to training camp, so I've never seen this guy play. But he's been hanging around long enough now, that he's got SOME things working for him, but clearly not enough to get it all together. So, while Josh Reed takes this offense to a new level, and while he IS having a very very good year (finally caught a TD, woo hoo!)- I think it's more the case that he's really the only competent #2 option for us at the moment. Hopefully Hardy figures it out sooner rather than later. Given his physical tools, if Hardy played with the same craftiness and skill as Reed, the Evans, Reed, Hardy combo could be the best receiving corps in the league. Well thought out and written. Steve Johnson had a decent gave vs KC, no? I think if we had another burner to take the heat off of Evans, he would be getting a lot more throws from TE. Parrish is a run-after-the-catch guy and Hardy isn't having the impact we were hoping for, at least yet. I'm betting we see Hardy involved more, next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Reed is my go to guy when we have a 3rd and long........im always saying where is Reed get him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crackur Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Bills + Reed = has always been good for the team 90s or now, coincidence, I think not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavarreFL_Bills_Fan Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Reed is getting open AND hangs onto the ball. Don't know that can be said accross the board regarding the other receivers. I haven't been able to review games to see if Evans is having problems getting open deep. TRUE, regarding Reed....funny how not too long ago everyone was calling for his release...including me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 30, 2008 Share Posted November 30, 2008 Well, the Bills ARE 6 & 0 with both Trent and Josh in the line-up together for a full game. We're also 6-0 when Trent Edwards doesn't show any signs of concussion.... yes, this is sarcasm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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