Bufluv Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 This list is from KFFL.com...I'm posting it because if we lost most of them, we will have some real holes to fill, especially the OL. My main point though is to sign Freddie Jackson to an extension NOW!!! The rest....what do you think? Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent Get Freddie Jackson signed, PERIOD!!!! Get Hamdan signed, he should be cheap enough JP, let him walk, he's done here Roscoe Parrish I think is already extended...I don't think he belongs on the list (nor does Harrison and Everett) Jenkins can go... Offer Kirk Chambers good backup $$$, but get him signed, I think he's our best backup lineman Melvin can go... Offer Duke Preston good backup $$$, throw him a cookie for backin Lynch after the late hit Copeland Bryan, offer him backup $$$, let him walk if need be Ryan Neil, sign him, shouldn't cost too much Angelo Crowell, offer him average starting LB $$$, if he still has a good attitude ( from being IR'd), If not let him walk John DiGiorgio, Due to the bum knee, lowball offer him and let him walk if need be Keith Ellison, offer him good backup $$, as he's a good backup only, not a good starter. Jabari Greer, Offer him a good contract, make an effort to keep him. Make room by dumping Kelsay,JP,Royal,McCargo... George Wilson, sign him...he shouldn't be expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Ya McCargo is done here also. We should be able to keep Freddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santoro770 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think we can get a better back up lineman than Chambers - even an athletic rookie would be better in my opinion. I think if you offer Crowell a decent 1 year salary he would take it, it's like his free agent year all over again for him and he gets to sort of right the ship with the hit his reputation may have taken in some circles. I like your post, only other comment would be that as much as I would like to keep Greer I don't think we will. We have Mckelvin and Corner and Yubouty as the nickel - but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Roscoe re-signed and is not an UFA. Jackson being RFA, we could offer him a tender where teams would have to offer drafts picks if we don't match. I don't think he is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 This list is from KFFL.com...I'm posting it because if we lost most of them, we will have some real holes to fill, especially the OL. My main point though is to sign Freddie Jackson to an extension NOW!!! The rest....what do you think? Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent Get Freddie Jackson signed, PERIOD!!!! Get Hamdan signed, he should be cheap enough JP, let him walk, he's done here Roscoe Parrish I think is already extended...I don't think he belongs on the list (nor does Harrison and Everett) Jenkins can go... Offer Kirk Chambers good backup $$$, but get him signed, I think he's our best backup lineman Melvin can go... Offer Duke Preston good backup $$$, throw him a cookie for backin Lynch after the late hit Copeland Bryan, offer him backup $$$, let him walk if need be Ryan Neil, sign him, shouldn't cost too much Angelo Crowell, offer him average starting LB $$$, if he still has a good attitude ( from being IR'd), If not let him walk John DiGiorgio, Due to the bum knee, lowball offer him and let him walk if need be Keith Ellison, offer him good backup $$, as he's a good backup only, not a good starter. Jabari Greer, Offer him a good contract, make an effort to keep him. Make room by dumping Kelsay,JP,Royal,McCargo... George Wilson, sign him...he shouldn't be expensive Don't forget to add a head coch to Brandon's list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep him. Good chemistry with Trent QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - bye bye JP RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - sign at a reasonable cost, but keep him for sure WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - dime a dozen WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - let him walk - good punt returner, but that's all TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - 'nuff said OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - keep as a backup C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - bye bye OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - keep - he's growing into his role, I think DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - has shown flashes, might be worth keeping DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - reliable (mostly) long snapper worth keeping LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - he won't want to play here. Our run D sucked with him and without him, so let him walk LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - sign if possible - good heart 'n' soul guy on special teams. LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - backup money LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Who? CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - too expensive to keep - he's played himself into some $$$ FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - keep - very versatile, excellent leadership from what I hear Whoever said to release Kelsay is unaware that he just signed a long term deal at a high cost. He's not going anywhere, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 In my opinion: Keepers, in order: RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent Let them go: QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent I think it still leaves C, TE, and LB as our top needs. We'll need a back up QB too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 This list is from KFFL.com...I'm posting it because if we lost most of them, we will have some real holes to fill, especially the OL. My main point though is to sign Freddie Jackson to an extension NOW!!! The rest....what do you think? Don't hold your breath on Crowell. He's as good as gone and I don't think Buffalo ever intended to keep him. My hunch is he knew this long ago. Jenkins is a quality ST'er, but no one they should bend over backward on. In light of yesterday's explosion from LMac, I think Greer's future cap hit will be too large to keep three guys (McGee included) at big pay for only two starting CB spots. Youboty and Corner can battle it out at the nickel. Preston, Wilson, Bryan, Fowler, and Losman shouldn't be on the team next year. Period. I doubt anyone will be interested in them anyway. I would look at keeping Fred Jackson, but not spend more than 2M per. You cannot retain all your players. Good GM's, well, for those teams that have them, know who to keep and who not to. Rarely has Bill Polian allowed a guy to leave who played well for another team. Larry Tripplett anyone? You draft players at positions you know will have a FA you're not ready to keep. From a team building perspective, the McKelvin pick isn't bad, considering Greer is UFA after this season, and both McGee and Youboty are after 2009. I suspect Buffalo will re-sign McGee, but they can't possibly keep McGee, Greer, and McKelvin. I don't think Buffalo can continue with Brandon handling football operations. He doesn't have the personnel experience, and it makes me wonder who is deciding who Buffalo pursues in UFA and the draft. It has to be DJ, and I don't see RB telling a guy who's spent 20+ years coaching in the NFL what to do with players. Only a seasoned personnel man can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufluv Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 Thanks for the solid input! All points well taken! My only strong opinion is about Freddy Jackson, I would hate to see him walk. Him and Lynch sure seem to like playing together, thats in our favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Keep: RB Fred Jackson CB Jabari Greer OL Kirk Chambers FS George Wilson QB Gibran Hamdan OL Duke Preston DL Copeland Bryan LB John DiGiorgio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Keep: RB Fred Jackson CB Jabari Greer OL Kirk Chambers FS George Wilson QB Gibran Hamdan OL Duke Preston DL Copeland Bryan LB John DiGiorgio agreed... I'll go a step further and say Ryan Neill needs to go... they only kept him over Schneck last year because we had injuries on the DL last year and he was able to play DE. Lindell and Moorman were much more effective. Pro Bowl level, with a high caliber long snapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bufluv Posted November 25, 2008 Author Share Posted November 25, 2008 What about Peters? I think we should offer him a new contract, but HEAVILY back loaded with incentives and bonuses. He no doubt lost some leverage by coming in out of football shape, but he's still worthy of a better contract, with a realistic high payout for performance. The holdout and 0 communication was a disaster for both parties, lets not let it happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 After the success of Michael Turner this year, I do wonder if maybe a team would look at Fred Jackson as an option. We could probably give him the second highest tender (first round pick compensation) without anyone making an offer, but I would not be surprised if teams were then calling the Bills and offering a second round pick. I could see Cincinnati, Cleveland, New Orleans, and Seattle all showing interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsaikotic Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Gibran Hamdan UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep QB J.P. Losman UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent RB Fred Jackson RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep most definatly WR Justin Jenkins RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft WR Roscoe Parrish UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep...no need to add WR to our list of needs TE Kevin Everett UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OG Kirk Chambers UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent -Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft C Melvin Fowler UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent OL Duke Preston UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft DL Copeland Bryan RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft DL Ryan Neill ERFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep..most ppl say let go but you dont want to mess with a kickers snapper...we all saw what happened when preston took over b4 they signed Neill LB Angelo Crowell UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep..Id like to see them keep him, not sure if he'll stay LB John DiGiorgio RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft LB Keith Ellison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better options come in FA/Draft LB Kevin Harrison RFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent CB Jabari Greer UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep most definatly FS George Wilson UFA Buffalo Bills Free Agent - Keep as backup unless better option comes in FA/Draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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