molson_golden2002 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We can just call this "change" http://www.newsweek.com/id/170368 Despite the hopes of many human-rights advocates, the new Obama Justice Department is not likely to launch major new criminal probes of harsh interrogations and other alleged abuses by the Bush administration. But one idea that has currency among some top Obama advisers is setting up a 9/11-style commission that would investigate counterterrorism policies and make public as many details as possible. "At a minimum, the American people have to be able to see and judge what happened," said one senior adviser, who asked not to be identified talking about policy matters. The commission would be empowered to order the U.S. intelligence agencies to open their files for review and question senior officials who approved "waterboarding" and other controversial practices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We can just call this "change" http://www.newsweek.com/id/170368 That will do WONDERS for our security and effectiveness of the agencies that carry out these operations. Next, in the spirit of cooperation, the DoD can release to China the blueprints to the JSF and F-22 weapons systems! Even if youre against the Bush's policies vis a vis interrogation, anybody with even a PEA for a brain has to admit that "making as much of our conterterrorism operations public" has to be one of the DUMBEST ideas on the planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 That will do WONDERS for our security and effectiveness of the agencies that carry out these operations. Next, in the spirit of cooperation, the DoD can release to China the blueprints to the JSF and F-22 weapons systems! Even if youre against the Bush's policies vis a vis interrogation, anybody with even a PEA for a brain has to admit that "making as much of our conterterrorism operations public" has to be one of the DUMBEST ideas on the planet. LOL, ya, the world might learn we question suspected terrorists! Big secret there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 LOL, ya, the world might learn we question suspected terrorists! Big secret there Brilliant response, as always. Rent yourself out as a crash test dummy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Brilliant response, as always. Rent yourself out as a crash test dummy. So that's how you earn a living RK! Makes sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 So that's how you earn a living RK! Makes sense now No, dummy. It was a request for something I want YOU to do. If that one takes too much work for you, then just camp out in the truck lanes of the Interstate. If you can rub the two brain cells you have together long enough to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 That will do WONDERS for our security and effectiveness of the agencies that carry out these operations. Next, in the spirit of cooperation, the DoD can release to China the blueprints to the JSF and F-22 weapons systems! Even if youre against the Bush's policies vis a vis interrogation, anybody with even a PEA for a brain has to admit that "making as much of our conterterrorism operations public" has to be one of the DUMBEST ideas on the planet. Well, we do have an open policy of not torturing people. So.. if we're not going to have that poilicy, then I'd be fine with torturing folks. But since we do have that policy, we sure as sh-- better stick to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well, we do have an open policy of not torturing people. So.. if we're not going to have that poilicy, then I'd be fine with torturing folks. But since we do have that policy, we sure as sh-- better stick to it. Right, because the bad guys will sure as hell abide by our policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Right, because the bad guys will sure as hell abide by our policies. Yeah, so let's sink to their level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Yeah, so let's sink to their level! I know this is reaaaalllly tough for liberals to get their heads around, but sometimes in war and dealing with bad people....you have to do bad things. Are you willing to "not stoop to their level" if you knew by doing so youd prevent a mass attack on our soil? To your family, itself? So they made the mastermind of 9/11 think he was drowing for a grand total of 30 seconds. IMO, making him believe he was drowing FOR THIRTY !@#$ING YEARS wouldnt be enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Well, we do have an open policy of not torturing people. So.. if we're not going to have that poilicy, then I'd be fine with torturing folks. But since we do have that policy, we sure as sh-- better stick to it. If America has a "no torture" policy, then how come my wife's forcing me to watch "Dancing With The Stars" tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 If America has a "no torture" policy, then how come my wife's forcing me to watch "Dancing With The Stars" tonight? Y'know, I make the argument that 99% of homosexuals don't consciously decide to become gay, but you may want to talk to the 1% who do. You may have something in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I know this is reaaaalllly tough for liberals to get their heads around, but sometimes in war and dealing with bad people....you have to do bad things. Are you willing to "not stoop to their level" if you knew by doing so youd prevent a mass attack on our soil? To your family, itself? So they made the mastermind of 9/11 think he was drowing for a grand total of 30 seconds. IMO, making him believe he was drowing FOR THIRTY !@#$ING YEARS wouldnt be enough. Yes, no matter how despicable the actions of our enemies might be, we should follow the 'eye for an eye' policy and give it right back to them (only worse)! What better way to promote our democratic values? The end ALWAYS justifies the means. For that matter, what better way to promote our Christian values? !@#$in libtards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think the pro-torture crowd has been watching too much 24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think the pro-torture crowd has been watching too much 24. "Pro-torture crowd"? I've never heard anyone actually be pro-torture. Just express varying degrees of apathy. Of course, when idiots of your ilk describe such things as "exposing prisoners to women in miniskirts" or "overfeeding prisoners and increasing their BMI to unhealthy levels" as torture, the apathy becomes understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 "overfeeding prisoners and increasing their BMI to unhealthy levels" as torture, So if that's true I think I've been practicing self-flagellation for years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 So if that's true I think I've been practicing self-flagellation for years now. Are you a masochist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I know this is reaaaalllly tough for liberals to get their heads around, but sometimes in war and dealing with bad people....you have to do bad things. That's fine, whatever. If we're going to do that we better rescind all claims of and back out of the Geneva Convention treaties. Right now we just just look like a bunch of "do as I say, not as I do" scumbags who claim not to toture people but then do it anyways. Perhaps you conservatives need to learn to get your heads around the concepts of honor and dignity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 That's fine, whatever. If we're going to do that we better rescind all claims of and back out of the Geneva Convention treaties. Right now we just just look like a bunch of "do as I say, not as I do" scumbags who claim not to toture people but then do it anyways. Perhaps you conservatives need to learn to get your heads around the concepts of honor and dignity? Do you consider abortion torture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 "Pro-torture crowd"? I've never heard anyone actually be pro-torture. Just express varying degrees of apathy. I think that's mostly true. In some ways "Pro torture" is like "Pro abortion". I have met few people who actually believe that more of either is a good thing. But, I think there are a few people in either/both of those groups that REALLY LIKE them. Gotta account for the sickos, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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