Arkady Renko Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 10-6 teams have failed to make the playoffs (see Browns last year, 49ers in the 1990s), but when -- if ever -- has a team with a 11-5 record not made the playoffs since the playoffs were expanded to 12 teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 lol, that nice to assume this crappy team can win 6 games in a row. i don't think the Bills can do it. But if they do, all "not making the playoff" grudges are forgiven, if they get in or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 10-6 teams have failed to make the playoffs (see Browns last year, 49ers in the 1990s), but when -- if ever -- has a team with a 11-5 record not made the playoffs since the playoffs were expanded to 12 teams? I believe in the late 80s one of Elway's Broncos teams finished 11-5 and didn't get in. Meanwhile the Browns went 8-8 and won their crappy division. The NFL changed the Wild Card rules a year or two later, adding (I believe) 2 more spots. Since then, there has never been a team that finished better than 10-6 that DIDN'T make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVUFootball29 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I believe in the late 80s one of Elway's Broncos teams finished 11-5 and didn't get in. Meanwhile the Browns went 8-8 and won their crappy division. The NFL changed the Wild Card rules a year or two later, adding (I believe) 2 more spots. Since then, there has never been a team that finished better than 10-6 that DIDN'T make it. IF there is a way to stay out of the playoffs at 11-5 the Bills will be the team to find a way to do it. Just our luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 IF there is a way to stay out of the playoffs at 11-5 the Bills will be the team to find a way to do it. Just our luck Exactly haha...but no, 11-5 should get you in...it's all subjective. At this point we look at schedules and say these guys will win this game, lose this game, etc. but nothing ever really goes as it should on paper...so hey, maybe we can win out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Do I think the Bills can get 11-5? No... but the point is that until they lose that 6th game, they do not need help to get in IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 IF there is a way to stay out of the playoffs at 11-5 the Bills will be the team to find a way to do it. Just our luck Probably right.. BTW, those are some wide-azz bloomers there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 We don't have to worry about the West (DEN 6-5, SD 4-7). If we win out, we beat MIA, so we don't have to worry about them. I think it's safe to assume Tenn wins their division (they already beat Indy once & have a better div rcd). That leaves NJJ (8-3) or NE (7-4), Pitt (8-3)or Balt (7-4) & Indy (7-4). If we win out, that gives NE 5 losses & the Jets 4. If NE loses another, we'd be ahead of them; if not, things go a ways down the division tie-breaker list. They play Pitt & Ari, so another loss is quite likely. (I'd put it at > 80%). The Jets have a relatively easy remaining schedule, so 2 more losses (in addition to losing to us) is unlikely IMO. Balt has a relatively tough schedule, (Dal, wash, pitt, jac, Cin) as does Pitt (NE, Bal, Dal, tenn, cle), so beating out one of them is "reasonable", let's guesstimate 70%. W/ the exception of a game against Tenn, Indy has an easy schedule, so I'll guess they've got a 40% chance of sweeping the remaining games IF they lose to Tenn; let's say them losing 2 is offset by the chance that they beat Tenn (I tend to think it's not). So we have to beat out 2 of the other 3 competitors. Using those odds (20, 30, & 60) of losing out, I believe that means we've got a 36% chance of missing even if we do win out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Numark Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I honestly think a 10-6 record will get us in, and if doesn't, so be it. I am as optimistic as anyone, but 11-5 isn't going to happen realistically. I am thinking 10-6, we make the playoffs, and taken down the patriots. Then we take down the broncos. Then we beat the titans on a last second kickoff return by leodis (no laterals as we know the refs would instantly call them forward, regardless of the truth), and then the cardinals get the beating of a lifetime in the superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poeticlaw Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I honestly think a 10-6 record will get us in, and if doesn't, so be it. I am as optimistic as anyone, but 11-5 isn't going to happen realistically. I am thinking 10-6, we make the playoffs, and taken down the patriots. Then we take down the broncos. Then we beat the titans on a last second kickoff return by leodis (no laterals as we know the refs would instantly call them forward, regardless of the truth), and then the cardinals get the beating of a lifetime in the superbowl. 10-6 is not going to be good enough for the Bills to get in based on tie breakers 11-5 is their only chance. But given the history of their coach and their play this season 7-9 is the best we will do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorom Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 our D is incapable of stopping quality teams ( I hate the bend don't break tampa 2 crap D) ... and our O will have to catch fire and score 30 + a game for us to have even a remote chance of making the playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Do I think the Bills can get 11-5? No... but the point is that until they lose that 6th game, they do not need help to get in IMO. As Bills fans, we've learned to plan on them messing up at some point, hence all the playoff scenario threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koufax Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 11-5 gets us in, 9-7 doesn't. Won't be able to be sure about 10-6 ahead of time. But I'm just excited about trying to get to 7-5 and keep this talk up another week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I believe in the late 80s one of Elway's Broncos teams finished 11-5 and didn't get in. Meanwhile the Browns went 8-8 and won their crappy division. The NFL changed the Wild Card rules a year or two later, adding (I believe) 2 more spots. Since then, there has never been a team that finished better than 10-6 that DIDN'T make it. In 1985 the Broncos were 11-5 and didn't make it, but that was when only 5 teams per conference made it. I'd be curious to know if any other 11-5 team hasn't made it in before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFITZ1 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 We don't have to worry about the West (DEN 6-5, SD 4-7). If we win out, we beat MIA, so we don't have to worry about them.I think it's safe to assume Tenn wins their division (they already beat Indy once & have a better div rcd). That leaves NJJ (8-3) or NE (7-4), Pitt (8-3)or Balt (7-4) & Indy (7-4). If we win out, that gives NE 5 losses & the Jets 4. If NE loses another, we'd be ahead of them; if not, things go a ways down the division tie-breaker list. They play Pitt & Ari, so another loss is quite likely. (I'd put it at > 80%). The Jets have a relatively easy remaining schedule, so 2 more losses (in addition to losing to us) is unlikely IMO. Balt has a relatively tough schedule, (Dal, wash, pitt, jac, Cin) as does Pitt (NE, Bal, Dal, tenn, cle), so beating out one of them is "reasonable", let's guesstimate 70%. W/ the exception of a game against Tenn, Indy has an easy schedule, so I'll guess they've got a 40% chance of sweeping the remaining games IF they lose to Tenn; let's say them losing 2 is offset by the chance that they beat Tenn (I tend to think it's not). So we have to beat out 2 of the other 3 competitors. Using those odds (20, 30, & 60) of losing out, I believe that means we've got a 36% chance of missing even if we do win out. When you have to write an analysis this long assessing our playoff chances, they got to be low and too far out of our control. The Bills key was winning 2 of 3 over our division opponents, and the team tanked. Losing those 3 puts a 11-5 record in peril of missing the playoffs, let alone 10-6. Until we get a coach that can manage a game and not get outcoached against division opponents, there will be no Bills football in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Who cares? Who would they beat in the play offs? Oak. or K.C. will not be there-and Numark is hoping for a music city miracle in reverse-get a grip- 4-0 might as well been 20 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 We hold our own destiny, most of the teams in front of us: Jets, Pats dolfags are all on the schedule. If we take care of business we improve our record, and worsen there's. The question is can we make enough plays to beat those guys? We will certainly be outcoached by mangina and belicheat, possibly tony soprano too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Who cares? Who would they beat in the play offs? Oak. or K.C. will not be there-and Numark is hoping for a music city miracle in reverse-get a grip- 4-0 might as well been 20 years ago Its been 10 years since this team has played in a playoff game. Lets just get there first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kgun5 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 http://www.playoffstatus.com/nfl/billswhatif.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 10-6 teams have failed to make the playoffs (see Browns last year, 49ers in the 1990s), but when -- if ever -- has a team with a 11-5 record not made the playoffs since the playoffs were expanded to 12 teams? Nobody on this board said that so I don't know where you're getting that from. A 10 win season usually gets you in the playoffs but not in this conference this year and especially not us since we don't have any tiebreakers over any team ahead of us currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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