Are we seriously calling for Jaurons head

[mmaxx1477]

What exactly is he suppose to say during these interviews, what exactly would you like him to do on the sidelines. Billicheck is about as dull as they come and Andy Reid isnt at all entertaining. Jauron is a defensive minded guy, most of his emphasis is on the defensive side of the ball, our defense has been playing fairly solid considering the talent of the players.Im doubting the fact that hes coaching Duke Preston to go backwards, I dont think Keith Ellison learned to overpersue from Dick. Maybe he should draw Chris Kelsay a map so he can find the other teams backfield. My guess is Rian Lindell choked all by Monday night.

 

 

I really don't care what Jauron says during interviews. I am sure that most Buffalo fans don't care either. What we care about is not making the playoffs for the last 9 years going on 10. The difference between Billicheck and Reid is that they win. Regardless of their dull attitudes on the sideline they bring the "winning" attitude to the locker room and the standings. Jauron has brought neither. They dumped him in Chicago and now were stuck with him here. Can anyone see what a emotional head coach can do in Miami??? Its time for some change in Buffalo and getting back to the playoffs. Once again Jauron won't do it so were stuck with "wait till next year" I am sick of next year. Its time for Jauron to pack his bags!!!

[Paup 1995MVP]

so firing a coach if hes not successful in 3 years is the thing to do? Do we take into consideration the condition of the franchise when he arrived? no QB, no oline, heartless runnigback, aweful defense, best players include Terrance Mcgee and Aaron Schobel.

 

Dude,

 

You are SO WRONG. This franchise is in no better shape than when he arrived. We never beat teams that have winning records. We are not going to the playoffs for the third year in a row with him. We are always outcoached. We were whipped physically by our three division rivals. What more do you want? Oh, he never coaches up any of our players whatsoever. Now, instead of only the Pats being better than us, so our the Jets and Dolphins. And we are not better than the Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Titans, Jaguars and Broncos , Browns and Chargers. Maybe we are a little better than the Bengals, Texans , Raiders and Chiefs. But that is debatable. Enough Said. Have you watched us play for the past 3 seasons????

[KOKBILLS]

Dude,

 

You are SO WRONG. This franchise is in no better shape than when he arrived. We never beat teams that have winning records. We are not going to the playoffs for the third year in a row with him. We are always outcoached. We were whipped physically by our three division rivals. What more do you want? Oh, he never coaches up any of our players whatsoever. Now, instead of only the Pats being better than us, so our the Jets and Dolphins. And we are not better than the Steelers, Ravens, Colts, Titans, Jaguars and Broncos , Browns and Chargers. Maybe we are a little better than the Bengals, Texans , Raiders and Chiefs. But that is debatable. Enough Said. Have you watched us play for the past 3 seasons????

 

Totally 100% agree...

[Cookiemonster]

most coaches have a stronger influence on one side of the ball if theyve been on the defensive side there whole career, whether there the head coach or not theyre less likely to but heads with a coordinator that has been on the offensive side his whole career.

In what way does he not have this team prepared?

Let me count the ways, oh, I lost count, come on dude, we are playing the biggest game of our season, and have everything pretty much riding on the outcome, and we come out and lay a collective egg, there were a lot of contributors, and none more than our quarterback, but I am with others on this, he is our HC, and I really do not care what approach he takes, getting in peoples faces, or singing them a pep song, he is ultimatley responsible for having his team ready.What about the three divisional games, all very important, and same sing man, we just do not fire out of the gates very well,

I have been thinking about this for at least the last couple of seasons, and it is true, or at least it appears to me that way, that he really never truly has us prepared.I thought that it might be nice to have a firey coach like Cowher or Coughlin,

but thinking about it deeper, it does not really matter what the head coach's demeanor is, all styles can work, but in my opinion Jaron has failed us here. Right now it is a toss-up as to wheteher or not this guy should remain the HC after this season, it is a tough situation, because you do not want to lose everything that he has built, and he has done some things right, game day decisions and prepartion aside.

[BUFFALOTONE]

It's simple. Whether you want to put this on Jauron or not is your call...

 

5 Wins this year: 9 Takeaways/ 5 Turnovers

 

5 Losses this year: 3 Takeaways/ 17 Turnovers

 

 

Last time I checked the coaches aren't the ones throwing the ball to the other team. It's a young team that will make these types of mistakes. Edwards is still learning and It sucks we have to go through this after such a great start.

 

I have been saying this since the Miami game. We are doing the things we didn't in the beginning of the season. Add a lot of injuries in key places and, sprinkle in some penalties and youth starting in crucial positions and what do you have? Inexperience all around.

 

Its not an excuse why our OL cant run block or us giving up long drives in key points of the game or NOT getting turnovers, that you can blame the coaches for.

 

But Trent had a lot of time to pick apart Cleveland and he simply was scared to pull the trigger. Sometimes being to smart can hurt you, he is over thinking everything.

 

The laughable part about all of this is no matter how many times we turn it over or shoot ourselves in the foot with stupid penalties WE ARE STILL IN THE GAME IN THE END!!!

 

Jauron cost is in the CLE game not getting Lindell closer, obviously he should have made the kick by that could have been a 35 yarder instead of 47.

[Setrett]

Just listened to Trent's presser from today. He says Brown defensive coverages were different from what he studied on film from the Broncos game the week before. OK. Could I be the only one that is horrified to hear that? So what he is saying that the coaches put that film in front of him and they studied that without preparing him in the event the Browns played differently? maybe it would make sense for the coaches to look at more than 1 previous Browns game? How about a little contingency planning gentlemen?

 

In other words, the Browns looked at the Bills and decided to change up their coverage based on what the Bills do. The Browns coaches decided to give the young QB a different look. The Bills coaches did not prepare Trent for anything else. My hat's off to the Brown's coaches for taking a plan to the field that the other team might not expect and a plan that attacks what the other team does.

 

Fire Jauron.

 

 

I think this hits the nail on the head. Trent has ADMITTED that he wasn't prepared for the defense and THAT IS THE COACH'S FAULT.

 

I also study a bit of statistics, so here's another slant. Jauron apologists will say that there are lots of random factors at play (e.g. his team's turnovers, injuries, weaknesses at key positions, etc.). This is true. But if you sample his win-loss record over a long enough period of time and under enough different situations, those random factors will average themselves out, and you'll be left with Dick Jauron's average performance. The numbers don't lie. He doesn't bring his teams any significant advantage.

 

It will not start getting better until Ralph sells or dies.

 

Truth hurts. Sorry 'bout that.

 

When an owner is unwilling to invest money in his coaches and staff, we see what the results are. There's no excuse for this. Small market teams like Pittsburgh and Green Bay have had considerably more success than we have. If money is an issue, why doesn't Ralph Wilson get off his high horse, sell the naming rights to RALPH WILSON STADIUM, for example, and use the money to hire a better coach? I'm serious. Why doesn't he do that? It's probably because he truly believes Jauron is the answer and that's major reason for concern.

[Dante]

Saw all I had to see at the end of that Monday night game. Any coach that would handle that situation that way has no common sense. Thats bad. If I was the owner that guy wouldn't have made it off the field without a phone call letting him go.

[Sisyphean Bills]

I think this hits the nail on the head. Trent has ADMITTED that he wasn't prepared for the defense and THAT IS THE COACH'S FAULT.

I wonder if this has been happening every week for the last month.

 

Changing up the coverages to take away the opponents weapons is something that many NFL teams do. It is a proven strategy. And, if we are consistently ill-prepared for it and unable to cope and adapt to it, I think that speaks volumes about our coaching staff and, in particular, our rookie OC's own preparedness and by implication our HC's abilities to keep his staff on track.

 

Having said that though, the fact that Edwards studied and expected one defense and then became obviously rattled and clearly ineffective in his own offense when he saw a different look is a very bad thing. The hype about him was that he was brilliant, had a quick release, great at reading defenses, and a quick decision maker. Well, on Monday he was none of that. The offense he's in didn't change, the players around him didn't change, and frankly he had plenty of time on most of his attempts. Bottom line: he either didn't know what to do or was incapable of doing it.

 

The hype has to go back in the closet, and Trent needs to go back to square zero and learn how to direct an NFL offense in a way that attacks an NFL defense. He also now has to work with, essentially, a rookie offensive coordinator, who is trying to invent his own all-new and improved wheel on the fly by introducing random plays and gadgets from other schemes and systems but keeping the Martz terminology to avoid confusion.

[DaGimp]

Just look at what we have in our division: the whole Parcells tree is on full display and they are pounding the Bills. When you bring in quality coaches/gms and quality/big time players you've got something.

[SouthernMan]

What exactly is he suppose to say during these interviews, what exactly would you like him to do on the sidelines. Billicheck is about as dull as they come and Andy Reid isnt at all entertaining. Jauron is a defensive minded guy, most of his emphasis is on the defensive side of the ball, our defense has been playing fairly solid considering the talent of the players.Im doubting the fact that hes coaching Duke Preston to go backwards, I dont think Keith Ellison learned to overpersue from Dick. Maybe he should draw Chris Kelsay a map so he can find the other teams backfield. My guess is Rian Lindell choked all by Monday night.

 

Not to be an apologist for DJ, because quite frankly, I think there's plenty of blame to go around.

But I still say that we just don't have the players needed to be considered a top tier team.

 

The Bills could sure use a complimentary receiver to take pressure off of Evans.

Pass rushing specialist/DE to compliment or replace Schobel.

Another DT?

How about another LB?

When's the last time we saw a dominating Center in a Bills uniform?

Guard?

Tight End?

 

Plenty of holes to fill.

 

The Bills have decent-serviceable players in some of these positions, but few stars who command double teaming or whom opponents have to game plan against. The roster is filled with good, but not great players.

 

Which Bill is a shoe-in for the pro bowl? Possibly a few alternates - that's it.

 

Maybe the Bills need a new head man to get the most out of these players, but I seriously doubt a different coach will have much more success with the players on the roster. They're getting outmanned in the trenches by their divisional foes (and others).

 

Time to put their personnel department on notice and start using their low round picks on lineman who can make it at the NFL level. If I was GM of the Bills, I wouldn't invest another roster slot on anything but filling the holes on the 2 lines. If that means dumping one of the overpaid O-lineman, so be it.

 

The Bills need to produce a consistent run game and on the other side of teh ball, put pressure on opposing QBs.

 

A few short weeks ago, at the 4-0 mark, we were told it's too early to start talking playoffs. Well, is it too early to start talking draft?

 

This season is all but over for the Bills. it would take a miracle turn-around to make the playoffs. With their injury riddled roster, it seems unlikely.

 

Sad when the most exciting part of the Bills year is the offseason.

[Ozymandius]

Okay well, if you're so concerned with history- how do you respond to this:

 

om Landry with Cowboys........................9-30-3

Jimmy Johnson with Cowboys...................14-28

Bill Walsh with 49ers...............................16-26

Dick Vermeil with Rams............................17-25

Jeff Fisher with Oilers/Titans.....................17-25

Dick Vermeil with Eagles...........................18-24

Bill Parcells with Patriots...........................19-23

Dick Jauron with Bills..............................19-23

Bill Parcells with Giants.............................19-22-1

Tom Coughlin with Jaguars.......................20-22

Mike Holmgren with Seahawks..................20-22

 

(thanks Boone)

 

Dick Jauron is not 19-23. He is 55-72. None of those coaches were ever 55-72. None of those coaches failed elsewhere.

 

HUGE differences that only retards would ignore.

[The Big Cat]

Dick Jauron is not 19-23. He is 55-72. None of those coaches were ever 55-72. None of those coaches failed elsewhere.

 

HUGE differences that only retards would ignore.

 

Abraham Lincoln was also a lifetime failure before given the opportunity for greatness. I don't think I have to mention Dick's home state...

[DonInBuffalo]

A question for all the Jauron bashers - what would you think if Jauron got fired and Bobby April got promoted to HC?

 

IMO out of:

 

A) Jauron staying

B) Jauron fired, replaced by April

C) Jauron fired, bring in somebody from the outside

 

C is the least likely option. I'm not sure whether I prefer A or B. April is an outstanding ST coach, but with no HC experience I don't know if we would be any better off.

[The Big Cat]

A question for all the Jauron bashers - what would you think if Jauron got fired and Bobby April got promoted to HC?

 

IMO out of:

 

A) Jauron staying

B) Jauron fired, replaced by April

C) Jauron fired, bring in somebody from the outside

 

C is the least likely option. I'm not sure whether I prefer A or B. April is an outstanding ST coach, but with no HC experience I don't know if we would be any better off.

 

Fantasies don't often fly here.

[1billsfan]

What exactly is he suppose to say during these interviews, what exactly would you like him to do on the sidelines. Billicheck is about as dull as they come and Andy Reid isnt at all entertaining. Jauron is a defensive minded guy, most of his emphasis is on the defensive side of the ball, our defense has been playing fairly solid considering the talent of the players.Im doubting the fact that hes coaching Duke Preston to go backwards, I dont think Keith Ellison learned to overpersue from Dick. Maybe he should draw Chris Kelsay a map so he can find the other teams backfield. My guess is Rian Lindell choked all by Monday night.

 

 

Dude, you picked the wrong week to pick up the crack pipe.

 

 

Let me go on record and state that you must be a brain dead fan if you STILL believe that Dick Jauron is a good NFL head coach.

 

 

Seriously, thanks for the unintentional laugh during a not so funny week.

[The Big Cat]

Dude, you picked the wrong week to pick up the crack pipe.

 

 

Let me go on record and state that you must be a brain dead fan if you STILL believe that Dick Jauron is a good NFL head coach.

 

 

Seriously, thanks for the unintentional laugh during a not so funny week.

 

I believe that because I believe he does more good than harm. I must be brain dead. I will now sacrifice myself before my TSW altar.

[Pirate Angel]

Dude, you picked the wrong week to pick up the crack pipe.

 

 

Let me go on record and state that you must be a brain dead fan if you STILL believe that Dick Jauron is a good NFL head coach.

 

 

Seriously, thanks for the unintentional laugh during a not so funny week.

Actually there is not one sentence in that statement that implies that Dick Jauron is a good NFL head coach. Im trying to hear some thoughtful reasons to axe him other than that - he gives bad speeches fire him - were not going to make the playoffs with bad players - fire him. Our second year QB that was taken in the 3rd round isnt playing well- fire him, and other dumbass statements like the response you just left.

[1billsfan]

Actually there is not one sentence in that statement that implies that Dick Jauron is a good NFL head coach. Im trying to hear some thoughtful reasons to axe him other than that - he gives bad speeches fire him - were not going to make the playoffs with bad players - fire him. Our second year QB that was taken in the 3rd round isnt playing well- fire him, and other dumbass statements like the response you just left.

 

You must be new here. We here pick apart ALL of Dick's foibles and head sctachers after EACH and EVERY game. I'm not going to waste my time with you if you don't know them by now. The latest of these loser mistakes comes from his classic "play not to lose" book when he decided to lay down (three runs up the gut) for a long 47 yard field goal with a minute left on the clock. This is why he SUCKS, this is what YOU DO NOT GET. His approach is for his team to win at least half of his games because THAT'S the way he coaches. You can pretty much get any team not named the Detroit Lions to a .500 record when you "play not to lose" and hope the other team screws up. C'mon man get with it. Seriously, you need to go to school on Dick Jauron and his ENTIRE record. You do realise that he SUCKED in Chicago BEFORE he ever got to Buffalo don't you? Please, you need to really research this stuff and not rely on the ones with the brain cells still intact. I think even Dick Jauron would admit he was a born loser right about now.

[The Big Cat]

You must be new here. We here pick apart ALL of Dick's foibles and head sctachers after EACH and EVERY game. I'm not going to waste my time with you if you don't know them by now. The latest of these loser mistakes comes from his classic "play not to lose" book when he decided to lay down (three runs up the gut) for a long 47 yard field goal with a minute left on the clock. This is why he SUCKS, this is what YOU DO NOT GET. His approach is for his team to win at least half of his games because THAT'S the way he coaches. You can pretty much get any team not named the Detroit Lions to a .500 record when you "play not to lose" and hope the other team screws up. C'mon man get with it. Seriously, you need to go to school on Dick Jauron and his ENTIRE record. You do realise that he SUCKED in Chicago BEFORE he ever got to Buffalo don't you? Please, you need to really research this stuff and not rely on the ones with the brain cells still intact. I think even Dick Jauron would admit he was a born loser right about now.

 

Do you know of any gameplans that DO work when you lose the turnover battle, at home, 4-0?

[keepthefaith]

You must be new here. We here pick apart ALL of Dick's foibles and head sctachers after EACH and EVERY game. I'm not going to waste my time with you if you don't know them by now. The latest of these loser mistakes comes from his classic "play not to lose" book when he decided to lay down (three runs up the gut) for a long 47 yard field goal with a minute left on the clock. This is why he SUCKS, this is what YOU DO NOT GET. His approach is for his team to win at least half of his games because THAT'S the way he coaches. You can pretty much get any team not named the Detroit Lions to a .500 record when you "play not to lose" and hope the other team screws up. C'mon man get with it. Seriously, you need to go to school on Dick Jauron and his ENTIRE record. You do realise that he SUCKED in Chicago BEFORE he ever got to Buffalo don't you? Please, you need to really research this stuff and not rely on the ones with the brain cells still intact. I think even Dick Jauron would admit he was a born loser right about now.

 

I gotta defend Dick here for a minute. He doesn't suck and he's not a born loser. As a man, by all you see and hear he is a terrific person. He's obviously very intelligent. He is also very loyal to a coaching style that does not appear to be a winning style in the NFL. For that he can be criticized. The Bills braintrust has to be coming to the conclusion that his approach does not produce playoff winning results. Hopefully they make a change before we endure another season of this team being middle of the pack.