Are we seriously calling for Jaurons head

[keepthefaith]

What do we gain by firing yet another head coach? We gain nothing and we continue are downward trend. The Bills are NEVER gonna hire BC and we all know that. The Bills cannot afford to pay a head coach 8 million+ a year and that's what he's gonna command.

 

Everyone needs to face the facts that we are gonna live and die with our young quarterback until he figures it all out. The last 4 games have proven that he can still be confused easily. Until he regains his confience, nothing is gonna change. The past 4 games have been hand mes. We handed the games over with tournovers, most of which can be laid squarely on the feet of Trent Edwards. That was the risk of playing a young, unproven player with potential. However, the lack of a running game and a defense that never takes the ball away doesn't help either.

 

Firing the head coach isn't the answer, but on Monday, the coach should have pulled his QB and found out if Losman could win us that game.

 

Just listened to Trent's presser from today. He says Brown defensive coverages were different from what he studied on film from the Broncos game the week before. OK. Could I be the only one that is horrified to hear that? So what he is saying that the coaches put that film in front of him and they studied that without preparing him in the event the Browns played differently? maybe it would make sense for the coaches to look at more than 1 previous Browns game? How about a little contingency planning gentlemen?

 

In other words, the Browns looked at the Bills and decided to change up their coverage based on what the Bills do. The Browns coaches decided to give the young QB a different look. The Bills coaches did not prepare Trent for anything else. My hat's off to the Brown's coaches for taking a plan to the field that the other team might not expect and a plan that attacks what the other team does.

 

Fire Jauron.

[AJ1]

It's no use. If Trent doesn't throw to the receivers wide open down field, it's Jauron's fault for not preparing him. If Trent throws 3 interceptions in the first quarter, it's Jauron's fault for testing him. If a player fumbles the ball, it's Jauron's fault for not letting his professional football team know that turnovers are bad, mmkay. If the same quarterback who crapped his pants in a clutch situation during MNF last year has been crapping his pants all day, and both of your running backs are having their best games of the year, making the decision to RUN the ball into field goal range is totally whimpy and completely un-informed.

 

12 guys on the field every other play...suppose that's the player's fault too. Jauron is ill-prepared, inept, and incompetent anyway you can measure a gameday HC. Losing the loser will not set this team back one iota.

[manateefan]

He is the HEAD COACH not the D- Coordinator. He is supposed to have his TEAM prepared to WIN the game.

 

To start, I am not saying he is a good coach. But isn't some of the problem due to the so called "professional football players"? Just maybe the right play was called and they didn't execute the play. How many times did TE check down? I don't think they were called plays from the sidelines. TE looks like a deer in headlights. I think he's scared. He's playing like he's afraid to get hit. He had tiime to throw, but held on to the ball too long and then just dumped it off. (Sound familiar?) On the one interception he stared at the receiver. Nothing like telling the defense who the intended receiver is. The first five wins everyone was saying how great TE could read the defense. What happened? He played good against San Diego after getting knocked out of the Arizona game and having a bye week.

 

Remember these guys get paid mega bucks to play "a game". Many make more in a week then the average person sees in a year. You'd think that factor alone could "motivate" them. (because if they play well they can negotiate for more). Execution of the game is not just coaches, it's the players on the field.

[Bmwolf21]

12 guys on the field every other play...suppose that's the player's fault too. Jauron is ill-prepared, inept, and incompetent anyway you can measure a gameday HC. Losing the loser will not set this team back one iota.

It really boggles my mind to see that there are so many people defending a career loser so vehemently. Maybe it's time to look at that 13-3 year for what it really was - an aberration - and realize that he is an 8-8 coach at best and most years, a 7-9/6-10/5-11 coach who is in over his head as a head coach.

[keepthefaith]

To start, I am not saying he is a good coach. But isn't some of the problem due to the so called "professional football players"? Just maybe the right play was called and they didn't execute the play. How many times did TE check down? I don't think they were called plays from the sidelines. TE looks like a deer in headlights. I think he's scared. He's playing like he's afraid to get hit. He had tiime to throw, but held on to the ball too long and then just dumped it off. (Sound familiar?) On the one interception he stared at the receiver. Nothing like telling the defense who the intended receiver is. The first five wins everyone was saying how great TE could read the defense. What happened? He played good against San Diego after getting knocked out of the Arizona game and having a bye week.

 

Remember these guys get paid mega bucks to play "a game". Many make more in a week then the average person sees in a year. You'd think that factor alone could "motivate" them. (because if they play well they can negotiate for more). Execution of the game is not just coaches, it's the players on the field.

 

Good execution of poorly designed offense and defense = mediocrity.

[Thoner7]

Okay well, if you're so concerned with history- how do you respond to this:

 

om Landry with Cowboys........................9-30-3

Jimmy Johnson with Cowboys...................14-28

Bill Walsh with 49ers...............................16-26

Dick Vermeil with Rams............................17-25

Jeff Fisher with Oilers/Titans.....................17-25

Dick Vermeil with Eagles...........................18-24

Bill Parcells with Patriots...........................19-23

Dick Jauron with Bills..............................19-23

Bill Parcells with Giants.............................19-22-1

Tom Coughlin with Jaguars.......................20-22

Mike Holmgren with Seahawks..................20-22

 

(thanks Boone)

 

Well, Aside from them coaching less than half the amount of games as Dick has at that point in their career, they probly showed promise, and potential. I would bet that they improved their teams. New coaches rarely get to take over a good team from day one. Those coaches, in less than three years, built good teams. Dick, hasn't improved crap over his three years. Not to mention we all knew his track record BEFORE he got here. This is his third chances to succed. those guys largely got it right the first time. Also, Dick has no Balls

[gcb34]

To put thall those coaches records up there and use that as a comparrison is completely assinine

Dumb Dumb Dumb... Damn I can't stand that crap. There is so freakin more involved then just putting up win loss records. They sucked so they received great draft positions and drafted wisely and built something out of nothing. Jauron has taken a promising team and instilled lack of confidence, no motivation, and a loser attitude. He's got to go!!!

[keepthefaith]

To put thall those coaches records up there and use that as a comparrison is completely assinine

Dumb Dumb Dumb... Damn I can't stand that crap. There is so freakin more involved then just putting up win loss records. They sucked so they received great draft positions and drafted wisely and built something out of nothing. Jauron has taken a promising team and instilled lack of confidence, no motivation, and a loser attitude. He's got to go!!!

 

Yes.

 

Jauron was a very risky hire. Not taking risks in sports or in business is risky.

[Sisyphean Bills]

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[Adam]

I think the fact that the Bills fanbase expects Aaron Schobel and Roscoe Parrish to be playmakers is all you need to know to know how logical they are......

[The Big Cat]

To put thall those coaches records up there and use that as a comparrison is completely assinine

Dumb Dumb Dumb... Damn I can't stand that crap. There is so freakin more involved then just putting up win loss records. They sucked so they received great draft positions and drafted wisely and built something out of nothing. Jauron has taken a promising team and instilled lack of confidence, no motivation, and a loser attitude. He's got to go!!!

 

No, the point in putting all those coaches next to each other is to show that if a coach has time to develop a team, there IS a chance he can get the job done. In terms of what he's done with THE BILLS- he's right on par!!

 

Do we need to post (AGAIN) the list of quarterbacks he coached when he was in Chicago? The point is, IMO, an opinion you can insult, disagree with, and fundamentally abhor, the guy has not been given a fair shot, and based on ALL of the EXECUTION errors that have been made in recent weeks, footing the blame on him is a classic Bills mob knee jerk witch hunt.

 

 

AS FOR THE 12 MEN ON THE FIELD PENALTIES SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED:

 

How many times has that been called against us this season? Once? And didn't it require a challenge? May be I drink too much during the games, but recollection is far different than yours!

[Cynical]

No, the point in putting all those coaches next to each other is to show that if a coach has time to develop a team, there IS a chance he can get the job done. In terms of what he's done with THE BILLS- he's right on par!!

 

Do we need to post (AGAIN) the list of quarterbacks he coached when he was in Chicago?

 

Yes, please do. And when you do, please make sure you note that in his rookie year, DJ got rid of the previous starting QB days before TC, and named the rookie QB as his starter when the rookie QB WAS NOT UNDER CONTRACT!

 

The point is, IMO, an opinion you can insult, disagree with, and fundamentally abhor, the guy has not been given a fair shot, and based on ALL of the EXECUTION errors that have been made in recent weeks, footing the blame on him is a classic Bills mob knee jerk witch hunt.

 

 

AS FOR THE 12 MEN ON THE FIELD PENALTIES SOMEONE ELSE MENTIONED:

 

How many times has that been called against us this season? Once? And didn't it require a challenge? May be I drink too much during the games, but recollection is far different than yours!

The reason they were not called is the Bills were BURNING TIME OUTS so they would NOT be flagged for them.

[The Big Cat]

Yes, please do. And when you do, please make sure you note that in his rookie year, DJ got rid of the previous starting QB days before TC, and named the rookie QB as his starter when the rookie QB WAS NOT UNDER CONTRACT!

 

 

The reason they were not called is the Bills were BURNING TIME OUTS so they would NOT be flagged for them.

 

So now we're citing gaffes that occurred 8 years ago?

 

I will not deny those plays happen, in fact they happen more often they should. I would say over 10 games, it's happened less than 10 games. Is it really THAT big of an issue?

[Cynical]

It really boggles my mind to see that there are so many people defending a career loser so vehemently. Maybe it's time to look at that 13-3 year for what it really was - an aberration - and realize that he is an 8-8 coach at best and most years, a 7-9/6-10/5-11 coach who is in over his head as a head coach.

 

Jauron apologists do not want to hear rationalization. They are too busy looking for excuses when he fails, and trying to find ways to hype his "successes". They even make up BS like how DJ is respected around the league. Never mind the reality that only the Bills came knocking on his door after his release from the Lions. If it wasn't for the Bills, there was a good chance Douche Bag Dick would have been out of coaching.

 

We are now working on eight years as a HC, and DJ has till been unable to post a winning record against teams over .500. Hell, even the announcers pointed that out during the game.

[MRW]

So now we're citing gaffes that occurred 8 years ago?

Are you saying that what Jauron did in Chicago is not relevant?

 

Serious question - what would cause you to say that Jauron is not the answer? If the Bills end up with a sub-.500 record this year, would that be enough? I'm asking because to me it's crystal clear exactly why Jauron has the coaching record he does, and it's not the players he's had to work with. So what would convince you?

[Cynical]

So now we're citing gaffes that occurred 8 years ago?

 

I will not deny those plays happen, in fact they happen more often they should. I would say over 10 games, it's happened less than 10 games. Is it really THAT big of an issue?

 

Jesus Christ, a gaffe? How stupid is he that he had no clue his starting QB was under contract? That's not a gaffe, that's not paying attention.

 

If those type of plays are happening more than they should, yes, that is an issue.

We are three years into a rebuild, the team should NOT be showing signs of blundering basic fundamentals like "who should be on the field?"

[Cynical]

Are you saying that what Jauron did in Chicago is not relevant?

 

Serious question - what would cause you to say that Jauron is not the answer? If the Bills end up with a sub-.500 record this year, would that be enough? I'm asking because to me it's crystal clear exactly why Jauron has the coaching record he does, and it's not the players he's had to work with. So what would convince you?

 

Believe it or not, most apologists will imply that. They will not come out and say it, they will just makes excuses why people should not pay any attention to it.

 

BS excuses like the "GM was out to get him".

[The Big Cat]

Believe it or not, most apologists will imply that. They will not come out and say it, they will just makes excuses why people should not pay any attention to it.

 

BS excuses like the "GM was out to get him".

 

No, I wouldn't go there. I would say he had a pitiful offense to play And while personnel is- to some degree- a reflection of a coach's ability, there is a great deal of luck involved with finding NFL talent. Call it an "excuse." I don't care, won't change my mind about the things what I think it means for a coach to do his job.

 

Regarding the frequency of bonehead penalties- lest we forget a good chunk have come from our boy Peters- I would cite our team's youth. Again, sounds like an excuse to you. I know. Doesn't change my mind. I guess all that's left for you to do is make fun of me!

[UConn James]

At this point, I don't think it matters.

 

We've had the same style of coaching here for the past three hires. Same inept offenses, plus or minus. Same defenses where CBs play 10-15 yards off the opponent's WRs. Either we get off to a bad start, recover, then end bad or we get off to a good start, play badly for a short stretch, recover for a short stretch and then end bad.

 

There's change in the faces and places, but the output and results stay the same. If DJ is fired, or if one of the coordinators is let go as a sacrifice so DJ can stay, nothing will fundamentally change. Just, we'll have to get an entirely new roster of the new coaches' "guys" to fit whatever moron scheme he wants to install and then we'd have to give him the customary 3 years grace during a rebuild. At the rate things are going, it would be Full-time Wildcat. This is the type of coach, and hence, the type of losing schemes that we are stuck with b/c someone doesn't want it to be different.

 

Newsflash. This is a sh-- team. We are among the dregs of the NFL. I'm sure at the OBD team entrance, there's a sign that says "Abandon all hope, ye who enter here." They picked it up for 10 cents at the scrapyard, turned it over and spray-painted a Bills logo on the back.

 

It will not start getting better until Ralph sells or dies.

 

Truth hurts. Sorry 'bout that.

[granitestatebillsbackers]

He is the HEAD COACH not the D- Coordinator. He is supposed to have his TEAM prepared to WIN the game.

 

This isn't directed at any particular response, but...

 

Wah! My team isn't winning! Wahhhh! I can't brag to my friends that they are leading the AFC East! Wahhhhh! I pay for tickets and watch them on TV so they owe me! Wahhhh! The wrong QB is in! Wahhhh! My shoes hurt! Wahhhh! This cheeseburger is cold. Wahhh! I should have used my 7-iron instead of my 8-iron! Wahhh! Throw Jauron, Wilson, and the rest of them under the bus and start over!

 

Cripes. If some of the fans on this board lived their lives and did their jobs the way they react to the Bills, we'd have chaos.