Sully's Article Raises Questions...

[VJ91]

After reading a rare excellent article from Jerry Sullivan today...

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/story/493112.html

 

...I have some questions for Perry Fewell:

 

1) Why does he make his defenses so complicated that the 11th player chosen out of the 2008 draft, Leodis McKelvin, doesn't have a clue where the hell to line up, half through his rookie season?

 

2) If he must have this complicated defense that only veteran players with high IQ's can grasp, how could the Bills not make a decent effort to sign Ty Law?

 

3) Why not just let McKelvin follow his instincts, run the same blitzes Youbouty was kicking ass running before he got hurt, and learn on the fly? At least he would gain experience and his speed would absolutely make up for at least some of the mistakes Fewell is so convinced he will make.

 

4) If he implements such an intelligent system for his pass coverages, why have his smarter and/or more experienced d-backs then McKelvin looked so stupid watching opposing receivers run wild on them during the past 3 game losing streak?

[Guest three3]

i would not be surprised to see greer on braylon like he was assigned to Moss on SNF last year. that's how the bills coaches operate. you would think it would be obvious to put your best corner on the opponent's best receiver.

 

imagine Moss's thoughts last year when he saw jabari greer lining up across from him insted of mcgee

[Thoner7]

i would not be surprised to see greer on braylon like he was assigned to Moss on SNF last year. that's how the bills coaches operate. you would think it would be obvious to put your best corner on the opponent's best receiver.

 

imagine Moss's thoughts last year when he saw jabari greer lining up across from him insted of mcgee

 

 

Greer is our best cover corner.....

[Guest three3]

mcgee should be on braylon just as he should have been on Moss

[Dr. Fong]

I'm with you man. I think the Jauron regime is a little too cerebral. Sometimes the best thing to do is line up and knock a guy in the mouth. If your system is so complex that your players can't run it well then you need a new system. They needed a new system after the Cardinals game where the Cardinals found out, "Hey we can just sit back here and pick them apart."

[Guest three3]

that was the key turning point for me with this coach-when moss tore greer up and embarassed the bills and the community of buffalo on national tv

 

can you imagine what brady and belichick were thinking when they saw that greer was on moss instead of mcgee. i imagine they began thinking of whether they wanted to win by 40 or if they should push it up to 50 to rub everyone's nose in it because of the spygate flack they were taking

[eSJayDee]

I don't think it's necessarily the system, but football experience/smart itself.

I'll site a couple of examples :

Edwards 2nd INT. Pat* DB has no one to cover in his zone so he puts himself to position himself to make the pick. Smart move on his part & although I would call it dumb, an error on Trent's part.

Cassle's TD run. Poz takes off for his zone, leaving him 15 yds away from Cassle's now unobstructed 10 yd path to the EZ.

Can't do that w/ a running QB.

Smart play by the Patsie* CB that I bet not too many rookies would make & what I'd consider an error on Poz's behalf (who is sorta a rookie). Doesn't seem to me that those decisions/plays were dependent on some sort of great familiarity w/ a system, just football "smarts" in general.

Catch-22 is that it's difficult to get those smarts w/o playing.

[SKOOBY]

I'm with you man. I think the Jauron regime is a little too cerebral. Sometimes the best thing to do is line up and knock a guy in the mouth. If your system is so complex that your players can't run it well then you need a new system. They needed a new system after the Cardinals game where the Cardinals found out, "Hey we can just sit back here and pick them apart."

 

 

Punch, hurt, punch hurt, opponent trained. That usually works the best versus trying to be smart. Pain makes your opponents smart, smart enough not to want to be in it.

[Sisyphean Bills]

What makes you guys think the defense is super-duper complicated?

 

If you read the article it says that McKelvin doesn't do the "little things". That doesn't mean he doesn't understand our vanilla Tampa-2 system. It means that he has poor technique and is probably drifting and free-lancing too often. It wouldn't surprise if he has been taking chances and trying to make big plays when the staff just wants him to play off, keep everything in front of him with a 10-yard cushion, and make clean open field tackles.

[murra]

What makes you guys think the defense is super-duper complicated?

 

If you read the article it says that McKelvin doesn't do the "little things". That doesn't mean he doesn't understand our vanilla Tampa-2 system. It means that he has poor technique and is probably drifting and free-lancing too often. It wouldn't surprise if he has been taking chances and trying to make big plays when the staff just wants him to play off, keep everything in front of him with a 10-yard cushion, and make clean open field tackles.

 

Right. How dare a player refuse to allow that 10 yard cushion? I'm getting sick of Perry. Really sick of him. BTW can you change your disgusting avatar, our mascot is a piece of sh-- and you should be embarrassed to have it as your avatar.

[Tcali]

I'm with you man. I think the Jauron regime is a little too cerebral. Sometimes the best thing to do is line up and knock a guy in the mouth. If your system is so complex that your players can't run it well then you need a new system. They needed a new system after the Cardinals game where the Cardinals found out, "Hey we can just sit back here and pick them apart."

Good point. Brent Favre. Just proved your point.

[TheKing]

After reading a rare excellent article from Jerry Sullivan today...

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/columns/story/493112.html

 

...I have some questions for Perry Fewell:

 

1) Why does he make his defenses so complicated that the 11th player chosen out of the 2008 draft, Leodis McKelvin, doesn't have a clue where the hell to line up, half through his rookie season?

 

2) If he must have this complicated defense that only veteran players with high IQ's can grasp, how could the Bills not make a decent effort to sign Ty Law?

 

3) Why not just let McKelvin follow his instincts, run the same blitzes Youbouty was kicking ass running before he got hurt, and learn on the fly? At least he would gain experience and his speed would absolutely make up for at least some of the mistakes Fewell is so convinced he will make.

 

4) If he implements such an intelligent system for his pass coverages, why have his smarter and/or more experienced d-backs then McKelvin looked so stupid watching opposing receivers run wild on them during the past 3 game losing streak?

Sully writes plenty of good articles.

People don't like him because he isn't a cheerleader.

[The Dean]

Sully writes plenty of good articles.

People don't like him because he isn't a cheerleader.

 

 

I don't like him because he doesn't seem to have a grasp of football. From what I can tell, it's not a game he likes, respects or understands very well.

[murra]

I don't like him because he doesn't seem to have a grasp of football. From what I can tell, it's not a game he likes, respects or understands very well.

 

Agreed.

[VJ91]

What makes you guys think the defense is super-duper complicated?

 

If you read the article it says that McKelvin doesn't do the "little things". That doesn't mean he doesn't understand our vanilla Tampa-2 system. It means that he has poor technique and is probably drifting and free-lancing too often. It wouldn't surprise if he has been taking chances and trying to make big plays when the staff just wants him to play off, keep everything in front of him with a 10-yard cushion, and make clean open field tackles.

 

What makes me think this defense is too complicated? Perry Fewell himself told us that McKelvin can't grasp it, little things or big things. This coach-speak makes me sick. Going back to Gregg Williams explaining every loss and his few wins being caused by the players' mostly not or sometimes being able to perform his damn schemes. Fewell reminds me of that type of arrogant coach. Everything is always about his schemes and his players "making plays" within them.

 

And by the way, McKelving's smarter fellow d-backs have been doing a terrific job of keeping everything in front of them with a 10 yard cushion lately, don't you agree?? And if the Dolphins, Jets or Pats needed 15 or 20 yards, they kept everything in front of them with 15 or 20 yard cushions too. I bet Leodis could do that well himself.

[The Cincinnati Kid]

Leodis isn't playing because he is illiterate. He can't speak, think, or write! This guy has so much talent but is dumb as schitt. Thats why he isn't playing.

 

Also, the schemes of the coaches are the most important thing to a football team. The team needs to play within those schemes to be successful. If guys are not playing within those schemes, then it would be chaos and anarchy. Instead of losing by 10 to the Patriots, we'd have lost my 100 if we don't play within the schemes.

[Sisyphean Bills]

What makes me think this defense is too complicated? Perry Fewell himself told us that McKelvin can't grasp it, little things or big things. This coach-speak makes me sick. Going back to Gregg Williams explaining every loss and his few wins being caused by the players' mostly not or sometimes being able to perform his damn schemes. Fewell reminds me of that type of arrogant coach. Everything is always about his schemes and his players "making plays" within them.

Saying that McKelvin doesn't get the defense and saying that the defense is uber-complicated are two very different things. For example, we could say that VJ91 doesn't get that "2+2=4", but that doesn't mean that most kindergartners can't grasp the concept or that it is "overly complicated".

 

Fewell's schemes do not seem uber-complex. No, they seem more on the simplistic side typically (as you seem to agree in the next paragraph). Last season, for example, the Bills just ran their defense no matter what the other team did and the excuse/reason was that "all of their starting defensive players were on IR" [sic]. There were a lot of injuries on defense last year, and yet the Bills were able to bring in and play rookies, converted WRs, and others on their defense without having to jettison the entire system, right?

And by the way, McKelving's smarter fellow d-backs have been doing a terrific job of keeping everything in front of them with a 10 yard cushion lately, don't you agree?? And if the Dolphins, Jets or Pats needed 15 or 20 yards, they kept everything in front of them with 15 or 20 yard cushions too. I bet Leodis could do that well himself.

Yes, I agree. I don't like seeing our secondary take super-duper deep drops, no pass rush, and huge open spaces underneath for the opponent to play pitch-and-catch and move the chains straight down the field. I think it is a piss poor, weak sister, afraid-to-let-your-players-make-plays sort of scheme.

 

The corollary to all this though is that, no matter what we think of Fewell's system -- whether it is easy enough that street free agents can come in with little preparation and play it, or it is ridiculously complicated with zillions of sight adjustments to the coverage per snap -- Why did the Bills essentially spend their top pick and a top pick in the draft on a guy that has so much "rookie immaturity" (their words) that he can't get on the field and provides essentially ZERO impact?? This is a team that was being billed as primed for a playoff run and yet this pick is taking on some similarity, according to Sully, of the sort of arrogance demonstrated when Donahoe picked Willis McGahee knowing that McGahee wouldn't play a down for 2 years. Compare that to the Patriots, who are getting great production and valuable minutes from guys like Green-Ellis and Guyton in addition to their top pick Mayo.

[Cynical]

I don't like him because he doesn't seem to have a grasp of football. From what I can tell, it's not a game he likes, respects or understands very well.

 

 

"Abba-tutely".

 

Early in his Buffalo News career, he wrote a column explaining who he was. IIRC, he's favorite sport is college basketball and basketball in general.

 

I remember reading that and thinking to myself why in the world did the News hire this guy?

Buffalo does not have a NBA franchise, and the two biggest sports in Buffalo are football and hockey, neither of which is this guy's forte.

 

It made zero sense then, and it still makes zero sense now.

[TheKing]

Leodis isn't playing because he is illiterate. He can't speak, think, or write! This guy has so much talent but is dumb as schitt. Thats why he isn't playing.

 

Also, the schemes of the coaches are the most important thing to a football team. The team needs to play within those schemes to be successful. If guys are not playing within those schemes, then it would be chaos and anarchy. Instead of losing by 10 to the Patriots, we'd have lost my 100 if we don't play within the schemes.

 

Wonderlic scores:

Leodis McKelvin - 13

Jim Kelly - 15 ( maybe they should call him dumbo instead of jimbo)

 

As subhuman as McKelvin's and Kelly's wonderlic scores are, there are worse in the NFL.

And Jim Kelly is a HOF QB!

What it clearly demonstrates is that football is certainly not a game that requires any intelligence whatsoever.

[BuffaloBill]

Wonderlic scores:

Leodis McKelvin - 13

Jim Kelly - 15 ( maybe they should call him dumbo instead of jimbo)

 

As subhuman as McKelvin's and Kelly's wonderlic scores are, there are worse in the NFL.

And Jim Kelly is a HOF QB!

What it clearly demonstrates is that football is certainly not a game that requires any intelligence whatsoever.

 

 

Not sure if your data is correct but those numbers fly in the face of Marv's "smart players learn to get better" mentality.