Thoner7 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Maybe Lynch can play center amd sove our problems?
Rayzer32 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 lol @ this thread Yes it is pretty funny. All I know is that it takes more than one dude to tackle ML because his legs are always moving and he does not go down easy. I've seen him make something out of nothing more times than not. Hell, ML ran for 7 yards on the first play against NE and then we pass two downs in a row and have to punt??? He needs to get in a groove, but getting the ball 10 times, being replaced by Jackson after 2 plays and running behind a paper thin o-line will make most backs look horrible. Thus leading to TEs crappy play. It all starts on the sidelines and TS, who was hired by DJ, who was hired by ML, who was hired by RW etc.......etc........etc..... THIS TEAM HAS MANY PROBLEMS AND THE RB IS HARDLY ONE OF THEM.
Dan Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 1000 yd season means shiit. Used to be a benchmark when they played 12 but the criteria is different now.Clearly, Lynch is not the back we hoped he would be. A better back would be making more yards even with this line. Stop fooling yourselves. Que the name calling. You do remember that Lynch missed 3 games, I believe, with and injury. So, he made the 1,000 yards in a few less than 16 games.
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 You do remember that Lynch missed 3 games, I believe, with and injury. So, he made the 1,000 yards in a few less than 16 games. This thread should be titled: The real problem is Jauron not Lynch or Edwards.
Rayzer32 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 This thread should be titled: The real problem is Jauron not Lynch or Edwards. Or, the real problem is the cheap asss Ralph Wilson is the problem.
Dan Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Or, the real problem is the cheap asss Ralph Wilson is the problem. How can Ralph be so cheap when we have so many over paid players like Dockery, Walker, Kelsay, Schobel, Evans?
Rayzer32 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 How can Ralph be so cheap when we have so many over paid players like Dockery, Walker, Kelsay, Schobel, Evans? You have a good point, but on the other hand, because we keep hiring coaches like Williams, Mularkey, Jauron, Philips, etc...when the likes of Parcells, Cowher were out there, not to mention better all around cadidates.
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 You know nothing about football. Barry Sanders couldn't run behind this line what kool aide are you drinking? A solid run game IS needed. Especially late in the season in colder weather. Deny it all you want you are only fooling yourself.
1billsfan Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 There's your issue, and it has less to do with Trent and more to do with Marshawn. Last three games... Edwards = 7 turnovers (5 interceptions + 2 fumbles) Lynch = 0 turnovers There's your issue pal.
StupidNation Posted November 12, 2008 Author Posted November 12, 2008 Last three games... Edwards = 7 turnovers (5 interceptions + 2 fumbles) Lynch = 0 turnovers There's your issue pal. Let me look at the numbers for you a little differently since you are obviously inept at understanding how important a running game is: Trent has to throw 85% of all downs to make an impact in yardage + Lynch is not making plays to change that ratio and allows more guys to fall back into coverage = More turnovers If Lynch could get some positive yardage Trent wouldn't have so much pressure. No rushing game = more turnovers, less balance, easier D game-planning. Tell me how Brees did this past weekend with 400 yards and INTs with no rushing game, and tell me the Saints record and what is common about their offense. Get back to me. Facts are you could have a QB putting up #s past Marino's best year and have a losing record. Saints are a perfect example. No running game = almost impossible to win consistently
keepthefaith Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Or, the real problem is the cheap asss Ralph Wilson is the problem. I'm afraid we have to blame Marv Levy for this one.
Rayzer32 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Lynch is not making plays to change that ratio and allows more guys to fall back into coverage Hey Stupid..........nation, You realize there is more than one RB on this team right? Jackson is on the field almost as much as Lynch. We have had only one QB for eight of the nine games. Your point is moot.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Let me look at the numbers for you a little differently since you are obviously inept at understanding how important a running game is: Trent has to throw 85% of all downs to make an impact in yardage + Lynch is not making plays to change that ratio and allows more guys to fall back into coverage = More turnovers If Lynch could get some positive yardage Trent wouldn't have so much pressure. No rushing game = more turnovers, less balance, easier D game-planning. Tell me how Brees did this past weekend with 400 yards and INTs with no rushing game, and tell me the Saints record and what is common about their offense. Get back to me. Facts are you could have a QB putting up #s past Marino's best year and have a losing record. Saints are a perfect example. No running game = almost impossible to win consistently You really think Edwards is throwing on 85% of all downs? What game have you been watching?
Big Hurt Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 I have watched Barry Sanders and Lynch is not Barry Sanders. First of all, Barry Sanders was great. He could fake tacklers out of their shoes. Go to Youtube and search for clips of his games and be amazed. However, he had a lot of runs that went for negative yards. Barry would never have the career he had if his offensive coordinator stopped calling running plays because he had those negative plays. Lynch is a victim of Turk and Dick. He needs to touch the ball more than 12 times a game. Then he will be fine. In the 4th quarter of the New England game, Lynch got the ball three times and he turned that into 20 yards. Then Turk started calling passing plays and never went back to the run. How many yards can a running back gain if the QB never gave him the ball? Maybe Lynch should tackle Edwards after the snap and rip the ball away from him, then run down field with it. I think that is what you expect him to do.
R. Rich Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Maybe Lynch should tackle Edwards after the snap and rip the ball away from him, then run down field with it and the usual cadre of 4 defensive linemen hanging on him. That sounds better.
Snorom Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 the problem is not Edwards nor is it Lynch... neither deserves blame. The problem with the Bills is OL and Pass rush. We need a stud C and improvement at G and we need a real DE... None of our DE's are starting material not even Schobel. The biggest problem IMO is our Defensive scheme. I hate the tampa 2, and I am very against the 4-3. All we ever are in this scheme is a bend don't break. Problem with that is any decent team can bend it and break it.
K-9 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 ...In the 4th quarter of the New England game, Lynch got the ball three times and he turned that into 20 yards. Then Turk started calling passing plays and never went back to the run. How many yards can a running back gain if the QB never gave him the ball? Maybe Lynch should tackle Edwards after the snap and rip the ball away from him, then run down field with it. I think that is what you expect him to do. If you're gonna start talking about the 4th quarter against NE, I suggest you start with the defense. First three quarters, gripe all you want, and rightfully so, but Sunday's 4th quarter is all on the defense. GO BILLS!!!
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 the problem is not Edwards nor is it Lynch... neither deserves blame. The problem with the Bills is OL and Pass rush. We need a stud C and improvement at G and we need a real DE... None of our DE's are starting material not even Schobel. The biggest problem IMO is our Defensive scheme. I hate the tampa 2, and I am very against the 4-3. All we ever are in this scheme is a bend don't break. Problem with that is any decent team can bend it and break it. I agree there are NUMEROUS problems on the Bills. HORRIBLE coaching, injuries, poor play by the O-line...etc. but to say Edwards does not deserve blame is INSANE. You Trent lovers would have gone wild on this board, there would have been 100 threads about how JP cost the Bills those last 3 games & it's all J.P.'s fault the Bills season is in shambles.
BuffalOhio Posted November 12, 2008 Posted November 12, 2008 Barry Sanders never had a line. Did you watch those Lion teams. Barry knew how to just dance his way free. He also played the majority of his career in the Run and Shoot. SPREAD the field, and running backs have a heyday!
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