Why do we only pass in shotgun and rarely under center?

[bluv]

This has made this offense SO predictable! Wonder why the running game struggles? You try to run with 8 men in the box! The reason why? The D knows that we rarely pass under center so that when the FB or 2nd TE comes in the game 99% of the time it is a run. We attempted ONE pass play under center that I can remember!

 

And what is this love with passing on 1st down in shotgun 95% of the time? We rarely run any draws from the shotgun (we did once and it picked up 8 yards)! I mean on 3 different 3rd and 1 we lined up and passed in shotgun taking away any run options making the intentions obvious.

 

This rookie Madden playcalling has got to end! This type playcalling only works if you are so dominant that you can tell the D this is what I am doing and we are so good and you can't stop us. Guess what: WE ARE NOT! We have to get an offensive identity and try to keep the D off balance. They have to find a personell grouping, whether it be 2 back, 3 WR, or 2 TE set, etc in which they feel comfortable both passing and running in which they use at least 60% of the time. No more of this obvious playcalling based on personell!

[TheKing]

Because with the pass blocking the Bills have Edwards would be on the ground before he could drop back.

[robkmil]

This has made this offense SO predictable! Wonder why the running game struggles? You try to run with 8 men in the box! The reason why? The D knows that we rarely pass under center so that when the FB or 2nd TE comes in the game 99% of the time it is a run. We attempted ONE pass play under center that I can remember!

 

And what is this love with passing on 1st down in shotgun 95% of the time? We rarely run any draws from the shotgun (we did once and it picked up 8 yards)! I mean on 3 different 3rd and 1 we lined up and passed in shotgun taking away any run options making the intentions obvious.

 

This rookie Madden playcalling has got to end! This type playcalling only works if you are so dominant that you can tell the D this is what I am doing and we are so good and you can't stop us. Guess what: WE ARE NOT! We have to get an offensive identity and try to keep the D off balance. They have to find a personell grouping, whether it be 2 back, 3 WR, or 2 TE set, etc in which they feel comfortable both passing and running in which they use at least 60% of the time. No more of this obvious playcalling based on personell!

 

Good point, it would be nice to have someone brackdown the formations and plays. The shotgun on 3rd had me going crazy.

[bluv]

Good point, it would be nice to have someone brackdown the formations and plays. The shotgun on 3rd had me going crazy.

I wanted to wait until the NFL.com released its Play-by-Play so that I could look at the trends I pointed out all game long on both message boards in that 1) We barely passed under center 2) We always run when under center and 3) We passed too much in shotgun on 1st down

 

Buffalo Bills at 15:00

1-10-BUF 20 (15:00) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to BUF 27 for 7 yards (54-T.Bruschi, 50-M.Vrabel).

2-3-BUF 27 (14:24) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 81-J.Hardy.

3-3-BUF 27 (14:20) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards sacked at BUF 21 for -6 yards (93-R.Seymour).

4-9-BUF 21 (13:58) 8-B.Moorman punts 60 yards to NE 19, Center-72-R.Neill. 83-W.Welker to NE 29 for 10 yards (57-J.Corto).

 

Buffalo Bills at 10:39

1-10-BUF 27 (10:36) 23-M.Lynch right tackle to BUF 31 for 4 yards (96-A.Thomas, 75-V.Wilfork).

2-6-BUF 31 (9:52) 23-M.Lynch right guard to BUF 33 for 2 yards (94-T.Warren, 36-J.Sanders).

3-4-BUF 33 (9:08) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 84-R.Royal to BUF 39 for 6 yards (27-E.Hobbs).

1-10-BUF 39 (8:34) 22-F.Jackson left tackle to BUF 40 for 1 yard (75-V.Wilfork, 54-T.Bruschi).

2-9-BUF 40 (7:56) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 22-F.Jackson to BUF 47 for 7 yards (54-T.Bruschi, 96-A.Thomas).

3-2-BUF 47 (7:19) PENALTY on BUF-71-J.Peters, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 47 - No Play.

3-7-BUF 42 (6:57) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 11-R.Parrish to BUF 49 for 7 yards (27-E.Hobbs). measurement

1-10-BUF 49 (6:21) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 49 for 2 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 94-T.Warren).

2-8-NE 49 (5:40) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 11-R.Parrish to NE 44 for 5 yards (27-E.Hobbs, 51-J.Mayo).

3-3-NE 44 (4:55) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short right to 23-M.Lynch [96-A.Thomas].

4-3-NE 44 (4:49) 8-B.Moorman punts 34 yards to NE 10, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 00:21

1-10-BUF 13 (:21) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep middle intended for 83-L.Evans INTERCEPTED by 27-E.Hobbs at BUF 38. 27-E.Hobbs to BUF 34 for 4 yards (83-L.Evans).

 

Buffalo Bills at 13:25

1-10-BUF 40 (13:25) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 11-R.Parrish to NE 46 for 14 yards (51-J.Mayo).

1-10-NE 46 (12:49) BUF 22-Jackson lined up at QB (Shotgun) 22-F.Jackson up the middle to NE 42 for 4 yards (94-T.Warren).

2-6-NE 42 (12:21) 22-F.Jackson left tackle to NE 37 for 5 yards (36-J.Sanders).

3-1-NE 37 (11:39) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 80-D.Schouman to NE 23 for 14 yards (31-B.Meriweather).

1-10-NE 23 (11:06) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 20 for 3 yards (94-T.Warren, 51-J.Mayo).

2-7-NE 20 (10:27) 23-M.Lynch right end pushed ob at NE 15 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo).

3-2-NE 15 (10:00) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 11-R.Parrish to NE 10 for 5 yards (23-J.Webster).

1-10-NE 10 (9:19) BUF 23-Lynch lined up at QB. (Shotgun) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 4 for 6 yards (94-T.Warren, 54-T.Bruschi).

2-4-NE 4 (8:40) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 4 for no gain (96-A.Thomas, 93-R.Seymour).

3-4-NE 4 (7:53) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 7 for -3 yards (50-M.Vrabel, 93-R.Seymour).

4-7-NE 7 (7:09) 9-R.Lindell 25 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-72-R.Neill, Holder-8-B.Moorman.

 

Buffalo Bills at 02:19

1-10-BUF 39 (2:19) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 13-St.Johnson pushed ob at NE 46 for 15 yards (21-D.O'Neal).

Two-Minute Warning

1-10-NE 46 (2:00) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 81-J.Hardy [99-M.Wright].

2-10-NE 46 (1:57) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete deep left to 11-R.Parrish.

3-10-NE 46 (1:52) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 81-J.Hardy to NE 39 for 7 yards (23-J.Webster, 58-P.Woods).

Timeout #1 by BUF at 01:04.

4-3-NE 39 (1:04) 8-B.Moorman punts 36 yards to NE 3, Center-72-R.Neill, downed by BUF-17-J.Jenkins.

 

Buffalo Bills at 08:11

1-10-BUF 38 (8:04) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 83-L.Evans to BUF 45 for 7 yards (58-P.Woods, 50-M.Vrabel).

2-3-BUF 45 (7:31) 23-M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 47 for 2 yards (50-M.Vrabel, 54-T.Bruschi).

3-1-BUF 47 (6:48) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 23-M.Lynch.

4-1-BUF 47 (6:42) 8-B.Moorman punts 44 yards to NE 9, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 03:22

1-10-BUF 19 (3:22) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 22-F.Jackson.

2-10-BUF 19 (3:18) 23-M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 17 for -2 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 50-M.Vrabel).

3-12-BUF 17 (2:40) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 83-L.Evans ran ob at BUF 32 for 15 yards.

1-10-BUF 32 (2:13) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson to BUF 36 for 4 yards (59-G.Guyton).

2-6-BUF 36 (1:39) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NE-50-M.Vrabel, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 36 - No Play.

2-1-BUF 41 (1:29) 22-F.Jackson up the middle to BUF 45 for 4 yards (51-J.Mayo, 94-T.Warren).

1-10-BUF 45 (:51) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 84-R.Royal [75-V.Wilfork].

2-10-BUF 45 (:45) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep right intended for 84-R.Royal INTERCEPTED by 21-D.O'Neal at NE 39. 21-D.O'Neal to NE 41 for 2 yards (84-R.Royal).

 

Buffalo Bills at 13:43

1-10-BUF 44 (13:43) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 48 for 8 yards (99-M.Wright).

2-2-NE 48 (13:12) 23-M.Lynch left guard to NE 41 for 7 yards (99-M.Wright, 31-B.Meriweather).

1-10-NE 41 (12:29) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 36 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo, 99-M.Wright).

2-5-NE 36 (11:52) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards sacked at NE 42 for -6 yards (94-T.Warren).

3-11-NE 42 (11:18) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete deep right to 84-R.Royal (51-J.Mayo).

4-11-NE 42 (11:11) 8-B.Moorman punts 34 yards to NE 8, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 01:57

1-10-NE 14 (1:46) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 81-J.Hardy for 14 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

9-R.Lindell extra point is GOOD, Center-72-R.Neill, Holder-8-B.Moorman.

 

I wanted to bold all the times we either passed on 1st down in the shotgun or in 3rd and less than 2 yards; I didn't point out obvious passing situations such as 3rd and long or 2 minute warning situations; I'll give them a pass for that. In the 1st half it was lets run on 1st down with base personell and then spread them out in shotgun on 2nd and 3rd. It seems in the second half they gave up on trying to establish anything; they just called plays and HOPED they worked! It was lets pass out of shotgun and if we complete a pass, lets run on 2nd and if that don't work lets go back to the shotgun again on 3rd (no matter the distance!). We only attempted THREE passes under center (one was a screen I think). We only attempted ONE shotgun draw ( if my memory is correct it is the 8 yard run by Lynch with 13:43 left in the 4th). We always run when we line up under center either with a 2TE singleback look or with FB/HB combo. Even the commentators were beginning to point this out (when they took time off annointing Belichek!)

 

This has become a trend the past few games that has to end: passing almost exclusively from the shotgun or only running with base personell. THEY HAVE TO MIX IT UP TO KEEP THE D OFF BALANCE! This playcalling only works if you are the last year Patriots and your QB/WR's are so good that they can pick a D apart, build a substantial lead and then pound the D into submission; THIS WE ARE NOT! Why do you think Lynch and Freddie have such a hard time running the ball? They always face 8 man fronts as teams know when we are running as it is so obvious based on the personell group! Why not run from a 3 Wide set or at LEAST a copule of shotgun draws! And the few times we do pass with base personell it is always send the WRs deep and leave a checkdon option. Wonder why Lee has a hard time getting open? If we are always in shotgun with NO THREAT off a run with a QB with limited range, it is easy to double him and flood the intermediate zones. While the O-line has been much maligned, the pass blocking has done better than most give them credit as besides a few breakdowns, they have given Trent for the most part time to throw the past few games (now the run blocking has been HORRIBLE!)

 

This team has to get back to basics and find a BALANCED offense to run as it has gotten too cute and fell in love with the shotgun on early downs. Face it: Trent is not Peyton Manning YET and even then at leats the Colts have a BALANCED scheme one in which they both PASS and RUN in similar sets and throw in playactions and similar plays to setup the D and keep them off balance; WE JUST CALL PLAYS and HOPE THEY WORK!

[jjbegoose]

I wanted to wait until the NFL.com released its Play-by-Play so that I could look at the trends I pointed out all game long on both message boards in that 1) We barely passed under center 2) We always run when under center and 3) We passed too much in shotgun on 1st down

 

Buffalo Bills at 15:00

1-10-BUF 20 (15:00) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to BUF 27 for 7 yards (54-T.Bruschi, 50-M.Vrabel).

2-3-BUF 27 (14:24) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 81-J.Hardy.

3-3-BUF 27 (14:20) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards sacked at BUF 21 for -6 yards (93-R.Seymour).

4-9-BUF 21 (13:58) 8-B.Moorman punts 60 yards to NE 19, Center-72-R.Neill. 83-W.Welker to NE 29 for 10 yards (57-J.Corto).

 

Buffalo Bills at 10:39

1-10-BUF 27 (10:36) 23-M.Lynch right tackle to BUF 31 for 4 yards (96-A.Thomas, 75-V.Wilfork).

2-6-BUF 31 (9:52) 23-M.Lynch right guard to BUF 33 for 2 yards (94-T.Warren, 36-J.Sanders).

3-4-BUF 33 (9:08) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 84-R.Royal to BUF 39 for 6 yards (27-E.Hobbs).

1-10-BUF 39 (8:34) 22-F.Jackson left tackle to BUF 40 for 1 yard (75-V.Wilfork, 54-T.Bruschi).

2-9-BUF 40 (7:56) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 22-F.Jackson to BUF 47 for 7 yards (54-T.Bruschi, 96-A.Thomas).

3-2-BUF 47 (7:19) PENALTY on BUF-71-J.Peters, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 47 - No Play.

3-7-BUF 42 (6:57) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 11-R.Parrish to BUF 49 for 7 yards (27-E.Hobbs). measurement

1-10-BUF 49 (6:21) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 49 for 2 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 94-T.Warren).

2-8-NE 49 (5:40) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 11-R.Parrish to NE 44 for 5 yards (27-E.Hobbs, 51-J.Mayo).

3-3-NE 44 (4:55) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short right to 23-M.Lynch [96-A.Thomas].

4-3-NE 44 (4:49) 8-B.Moorman punts 34 yards to NE 10, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 00:21

1-10-BUF 13 (:21) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep middle intended for 83-L.Evans INTERCEPTED by 27-E.Hobbs at BUF 38. 27-E.Hobbs to BUF 34 for 4 yards (83-L.Evans).

 

Buffalo Bills at 13:25

1-10-BUF 40 (13:25) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 11-R.Parrish to NE 46 for 14 yards (51-J.Mayo).

1-10-NE 46 (12:49) BUF 22-Jackson lined up at QB (Shotgun) 22-F.Jackson up the middle to NE 42 for 4 yards (94-T.Warren).

2-6-NE 42 (12:21) 22-F.Jackson left tackle to NE 37 for 5 yards (36-J.Sanders).

3-1-NE 37 (11:39) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 80-D.Schouman to NE 23 for 14 yards (31-B.Meriweather).

1-10-NE 23 (11:06) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 20 for 3 yards (94-T.Warren, 51-J.Mayo).

2-7-NE 20 (10:27) 23-M.Lynch right end pushed ob at NE 15 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo).

3-2-NE 15 (10:00) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 11-R.Parrish to NE 10 for 5 yards (23-J.Webster).

1-10-NE 10 (9:19) BUF 23-Lynch lined up at QB. (Shotgun) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 4 for 6 yards (94-T.Warren, 54-T.Bruschi).

2-4-NE 4 (8:40) 23-M.Lynch up the middle to NE 4 for no gain (96-A.Thomas, 93-R.Seymour).

3-4-NE 4 (7:53) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 7 for -3 yards (50-M.Vrabel, 93-R.Seymour).

4-7-NE 7 (7:09) 9-R.Lindell 25 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-72-R.Neill, Holder-8-B.Moorman.

 

Buffalo Bills at 02:19

1-10-BUF 39 (2:19) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 13-St.Johnson pushed ob at NE 46 for 15 yards (21-D.O'Neal).

Two-Minute Warning

1-10-NE 46 (2:00) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 81-J.Hardy [99-M.Wright].

2-10-NE 46 (1:57) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete deep left to 11-R.Parrish.

3-10-NE 46 (1:52) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short middle to 81-J.Hardy to NE 39 for 7 yards (23-J.Webster, 58-P.Woods).

Timeout #1 by BUF at 01:04.

4-3-NE 39 (1:04) 8-B.Moorman punts 36 yards to NE 3, Center-72-R.Neill, downed by BUF-17-J.Jenkins.

 

Buffalo Bills at 08:11

1-10-BUF 38 (8:04) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short left to 83-L.Evans to BUF 45 for 7 yards (58-P.Woods, 50-M.Vrabel).

2-3-BUF 45 (7:31) 23-M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 47 for 2 yards (50-M.Vrabel, 54-T.Bruschi).

3-1-BUF 47 (6:48) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 23-M.Lynch.

4-1-BUF 47 (6:42) 8-B.Moorman punts 44 yards to NE 9, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 03:22

1-10-BUF 19 (3:22) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 22-F.Jackson.

2-10-BUF 19 (3:18) 23-M.Lynch left tackle to BUF 17 for -2 yards (75-V.Wilfork, 50-M.Vrabel).

3-12-BUF 17 (2:40) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 83-L.Evans ran ob at BUF 32 for 15 yards.

1-10-BUF 32 (2:13) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 22-F.Jackson to BUF 36 for 4 yards (59-G.Guyton).

2-6-BUF 36 (1:39) (Shotgun) PENALTY on NE-50-M.Vrabel, Neutral Zone Infraction, 5 yards, enforced at BUF 36 - No Play.

2-1-BUF 41 (1:29) 22-F.Jackson up the middle to BUF 45 for 4 yards (51-J.Mayo, 94-T.Warren).

1-10-BUF 45 (:51) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete short left to 84-R.Royal [75-V.Wilfork].

2-10-BUF 45 (:45) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass deep right intended for 84-R.Royal INTERCEPTED by 21-D.O'Neal at NE 39. 21-D.O'Neal to NE 41 for 2 yards (84-R.Royal).

 

Buffalo Bills at 13:43

1-10-BUF 44 (13:43) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 48 for 8 yards (99-M.Wright).

2-2-NE 48 (13:12) 23-M.Lynch left guard to NE 41 for 7 yards (99-M.Wright, 31-B.Meriweather).

1-10-NE 41 (12:29) 23-M.Lynch left end to NE 36 for 5 yards (51-J.Mayo, 99-M.Wright).

2-5-NE 36 (11:52) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards sacked at NE 42 for -6 yards (94-T.Warren).

3-11-NE 42 (11:18) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass incomplete deep right to 84-R.Royal (51-J.Mayo).

4-11-NE 42 (11:11) 8-B.Moorman punts 34 yards to NE 8, Center-72-R.Neill, fair catch by 33-K.Faulk.

 

Buffalo Bills at 01:57

1-10-NE 14 (1:46) (Shotgun) 5-T.Edwards pass short right to 81-J.Hardy for 14 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

9-R.Lindell extra point is GOOD, Center-72-R.Neill, Holder-8-B.Moorman.

 

I wanted to bold all the times we either passed on 1st down in the shotgun or in 3rd and less than 2 yards; I didn't point out obvious passing situations such as 3rd and long or 2 minute warning situations; I'll give them a pass for that. In the 1st half it was lets run on 1st down with base personell and then spread them out in shotgun on 2nd and 3rd. It seems in the second half they gave up on trying to establish anything; they just called plays and HOPED they worked! It was lets pass out of shotgun and if we complete a pass, lets run on 2nd and if that don't work lets go back to the shotgun again on 3rd (no matter the distance!). We only attempted THREE passes under center (one was a screen I think). We only attempted ONE shotgun draw ( if my memory is correct it is the 8 yard run by Lynch with 13:43 left in the 4th). We always run when we line up under center either with a 2TE singleback look or with FB/HB combo. Even the commentators were beginning to point this out (when they took time off annointing Belichek!)

 

This has become a trend the past few games that has to end: passing almost exclusively from the shotgun or only running with base personell. THEY HAVE TO MIX IT UP TO KEEP THE D OFF BALANCE! This playcalling only works if you are the last year Patriots and your QB/WR's are so good that they can pick a D apart, build a substantial lead and then pound the D into submission; THIS WE ARE NOT! Why do you think Lynch and Freddie have such a hard time running the ball? They always face 8 man fronts as teams know when we are running as it is so obvious based on the personell group! Why not run from a 3 Wide set or at LEAST a copule of shotgun draws! And the few times we do pass with base personell it is always send the WRs deep and leave a checkdon option. Wonder why Lee has a hard time getting open? If we are always in shotgun with NO THREAT off a run with a QB with limited range, it is easy to double him and flood the intermediate zones. While the O-line has been much maligned, the pass blocking has done better than most give them credit as besides a few breakdowns, they have given Trent for the most part time to throw the past few games (now the run blocking has been HORRIBLE!)

 

This team has to get back to basics and find a BALANCED offense to run as it has gotten too cute and fell in love with the shotgun on early downs. Face it: Trent is not Peyton Manning YET and even then at leats the Colts have a BALANCED scheme one in which they both PASS and RUN in similar sets and throw in playactions and similar plays to setup the D and keep them off balance; WE JUST CALL PLAYS and HOPE THEY WORK!

 

there is something really wrong when even casual fans look at the game and say.. what the hell are they doing? when the coaches dont see that, something is really wrong. they are horrendous and all need to go

[Steely Dan]

Because with the pass blocking the Bills have Edwards would be on the ground before he could drop back.

 

 

'Nuff said.

[SKOOBY]

there is something really wrong when even casual fans look at the game and say.. what the hell are they doing? when the coaches dont see that, something is really wrong. they are horrendous and all need to go

 

Nuke OP, it's the only way to be sure.

[bluv]

there is something really wrong when even casual fans look at the game and say.. what the hell are they doing? when the coaches dont see that, something is really wrong. they are horrendous and all need to go

If I can tell looking strictly at a TV perspective I'm pretty sure the opponents with the coaches view can! They don't even need an in-game tendcy sheet as they know what to expect going: QB shotgun=pass, QB under center = run up the middle, 1st down run up the middle, 2nd and 3rd down = shotgun pass, 1st down = shotgun pass, 2nd down = run up the middle, and the list goes on and on... just like our losing streak until something changes

[Fewell733]

I'm glad you did the work on this. It's really becoming predictable and I think this is a HUGE reason why the running game is dying a quick death in Buffalo. In my opinion, it looks like Turk is more like Fairchild than we had thought.

[jjbegoose]

I'm glad you did the work on this. It's really becoming predictable and I think this is a HUGE reason why the running game is dying a quick death in Buffalo. In my opinion, it looks like Turk is more like Fairchild than we had thought.

 

bring back any of our old coordinators.... kevin gilbride... mike mularky.... man i cant believe im writing that. gilbride ran too much when we didnt have the runners, now hes got 3 in NY and they are the best team in football. Mularky is running a smashmouth style gameplan in Atlanta.... who knew? haha this offensive coordinator now is even more pathetic then the last one who brought sucking to new levels. why are we forever cursed ? its so sad watching good players not even be given a chance to compete

[bluv]

I'm glad you did the work on this. It's really becoming predictable and I think this is a HUGE reason why the running game is dying a quick death in Buffalo. In my opinion, it looks like Turk is more like Fairchild than we had thought.

Biggest difference between Fairchild and Turk is that Turk has opened up the playbook a little more on earlier downs (aka more shotugun) and we have had a little more success moving the ball. But neither have shown they can create a balanced offense that isn't so predictable based on personnell groupings or find a way to consistently get the ball in there best players hands! I mean honestly where are the quick passes, the slants, the drags (routes BTW that gives us fits!) to the WR's? If Cassell can consistently find Welker than Trent should definitely be able to find Roscoe!

[bluv]

Predictability which has lead to turnovers and drive killing sacks is why this team has lost its last 3 games.

And most of these sacks and crucial turnovers have come on FIRST DOWN in SHOTGUN DEEP in our own territory the past 3 games. Actually I give the O-line a lot of credit for pass blocking in this predictable pass happy offense! Yeah there have been a few breakdowns or shots were Whittle/Chambers getting pushed around or supposedly solid Peters and/or Dockery getting beat for a sack/safety but the bottom line is for the most part Trent has had time to throw the ball. It has been the opponents flooding our zones that have caused him to hold on to the ball longer than normal. Remember when Trent use to plant that back foot and the ball was out; those days seem LONG gone!

[keepthefaith]

I'm glad you did the work on this. It's really becoming predictable and I think this is a HUGE reason why the running game is dying a quick death in Buffalo. In my opinion, it looks like Turk is more like Fairchild than we had thought.

 

Hmmmm....

 

Maybe Jauron is setting the tone of the game plan during the week.