scribo Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Outrageous As a father of four, I do not think I am overreacting when I say this teacher should be removed from her position immediately. The after-interview just tells me this woman is worthless. She knows full well what she did and sits there, refusing to acknowledge it. The school should have never allowed her to wear the campaign button.
The Big Cat Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Outrageous As a father of four, I do not think I am overreacting when I say this teacher should be removed from her position immediately. The after-interview just tells me this woman is worthless. She knows full well what she did and sits there, refusing to acknowledge it. The school should have never allowed her to wear the campaign button. She was wrong. Absolutely, positively wrong. However, would you like to debate varying degrees of "wrong?"
molson_golden2002 Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Outrageous As a father of four, I do not think I am overreacting when I say this teacher should be removed from her position immediately. The after-interview just tells me this woman is worthless. She knows full well what she did and sits there, refusing to acknowledge it. The school should have never allowed her to wear the campaign button. I can't open the link. Is all as she did was wear a button? Or is there more?
Boomer860 Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 A black school teacher, I am surpised , as Joe Biden says she is clean and well spoken.
Dan Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 She was wrong. Absolutely, positively wrong. Your post should end there. Regardless of your viewpoint; a teacher - any adult - shouldn't tell a child your dad could be gone forever. Do you really want that? Its one thing to generate discussion and try to get kids involved. Its something else to try and influence them with cherry picked arguments they can't fully understand.
The Big Cat Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Your post should end there. Regardless of your viewpoint; a teacher - any adult - shouldn't tell a child your dad could be gone forever. Do you really want that? Its one thing to generate discussion and try to get kids involved. Its something else to try and influence them with cherry picked arguments they can't fully understand. I threw the other part in to suggest that politics isn't the only place where a teacher can impose his/her views. And to suggest that this example is mild by comparison. Just being a smartass, that's all.
Dan Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 I threw the other part in to suggest that politics isn't the only place where a teacher can impose his/her views. And to suggest that this example is mild by comparison. Just being a smartass, that's all. No problem. My comments were directed at you, more just taking your initial statement and expanding on it.
scribo Posted November 7, 2008 Author Posted November 7, 2008 I can't open the link. Is all as she did was wear a button? Or is there more? Much more. She asks her students who they want to be the next president. When one says McCain, she asks why. The girl answers, saying it is because her parents support McCain. The teacher then asks the same question to kids in favor of Obama. One black boy says it is because he wants a black president. Another girl says because Obama is making good changes for the country. The teacher asks what kind of changes. The girl says Obama is going to stop the war. Then the teacher turns to the original girl that McCain supports the war, pointing out that the girl's father is in the military. The teacher then says the war is "senseless." The teacher then says McCain wants to keep the girl's father in Iraq for the next 100 years. And asks her is that's what she wants? The girl, who I am guessing is about 9, looks humiliated and terrified.
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Much more. She asks her students who they want to be the next president. When one says McCain, she asks why. The girl answers, saying it is because her parents support McCain. The teacher then asks the same question to kids in favor of Obama. One black boy says it is because he wants a black president. Another girl says because Obama is making good changes for the country. The teacher asks what kind of changes. The girl says Obama is going to stop the war. Then the teacher turns to the original girl that McCain supports the war, pointing out that the girl's father is in the military. The teacher then says the war is "senseless." The teacher then says McCain wants to keep the girl's father in Iraq for the next 100 years. And asks her is that's what she wants? The girl, who I am guessing is about 9, looks humiliated and terrified. I agree scribo, it was totally wrong... Teachers should stay middle of the road up until AT LEAST university... Then they can go to both sides. Children aside and the debate among adults should be: advocate says... Will we ever know when a war is truly senseless and if it is, how are things going to change? Some miltary personell will surely have hurt feelings? Or do we just back policy and personell blindly?
ExiledInIllinois Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 My daughter's 1st grade teacher would not say who she is for... Even during a mock, in-class election... All she said is: "I want nobody to have hurt feelings." That is truly the path to objective learning...
scribo Posted November 7, 2008 Author Posted November 7, 2008 I agree scribo, it was totally wrong... Teachers should stay middle of the road up until AT LEAST university... Then they can go to both sides. Children aside and the debate among adults should be: advocate says... Will we ever know when a war is truly senseless and if it is, how are things going to change? Some miltary personell will surely have hurt feelings? Or do we just back policy and personell blindly? I am not backing anything blindly. I strive to be well informed, and I am not close minded, just convinced.
SD Jarhead Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 She should be fired immediately. This is outrageous. The little girls father is deployed and she's trying to scare her. Unreal! I'll be interested in what the result of this is.
KD in CA Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 I'll be interested in what the result of this is. She'll be protected by the teachers' union leadership thugs and probably given a paid "leave of absence". I hope there are some very awful things waiting in her future.
justnzane Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 My daughter's 1st grade teacher would not say who she is for... Even during a mock, in-class election... All she said is: "I want nobody to have hurt feelings." That is truly the path to objective learning... That is better than what I did. My kids were mostly pro-Obama. I said that I think both candidates are both great candidates, but I am voting for Obama. I was quick to correct my students who said that McCain was a horrible human being by pointing what he has done for the country.
finknottle Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 I can't open the link. Is all as she did was wear a button? Or is there more? It's bad enough (but in a subtle way) that I can't help but wonder if it is a plant. Not that I don't believe that it haoppened a lot just like that - I just wonder who was shooting the footage.
/dev/null Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 She should be fired immediately. This is outrageous. The little girls father is deployed and she's trying to scare her. Unreal! I'll be interested in what the result of this is. Secretary of Education
John Adams Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 That camera was all over the place. It was a crew in the room. Too bad the teacher can't even speak proper English. I love the "Oh Lord" and "Jesus" when 2 kids say they support McCain. More fodder against public schooling.
IDBillzFan Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 It's bad enough (but in a subtle way) that I can't help but wonder if it is a plant. Not that I don't believe that it haoppened a lot just like that - I just wonder who was shooting the footage. Look at the girls face when the teacher tells her her father will be in Iraq for 100 years. It rips your !@#$ing heart out. But yeah, probably a plant.
KD in CA Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 Too bad the teacher can't even speak proper English. I love the "Oh Lord" and "Jesus" when 2 kids say they support McCain. Gee, where's the ACLU to sue this woman for introducing religion in the classroom?
murra Posted November 7, 2008 Posted November 7, 2008 At my public University my FRENCH TEACHER... attempted to start a lengthy discussion with us on how we should go out and vote...for Obama. She was wearing Obama flair and she clearly had a nice little lecture planned when I told her to remove her flair and get back to teaching. She looked at me like I was being a pest and was like, "excuse me", and I simply reminded her that her thoughts were not that of the university, and that if she enjoys her job, she should stop. Much to my dismay, she bought that, and begin teaching French again, snickering at me. Don't get me started with my Post-Civil War Executive History class, where I routinely have to refrain the teacher from his put-down of only Republican Presidents, or his outrageous praise of Democrats.
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