Steely Dan Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 WTF "The only argument Doug and I have had in 10-plus years was when we said the statue would be 5-10," said BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo. "Doug wanted it to be six-feet tall." ______________________________________ The statue is expected to be unveiled in early November at one of the Eagles' home games. "It's a testament to Doug's accomplishments," said DeFilippo. The statue will be located between the Yawkey Center and Gate D. Sorry, I just don't understand the hero worship of this guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 WTF "The only argument Doug and I have had in 10-plus years was when we said the statue would be 5-10," said BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo. "Doug wanted it to be six-feet tall." ______________________________________ The statue is expected to be unveiled in early November at one of the Eagles' home games. "It's a testament to Doug's accomplishments," said DeFilippo. The statue will be located between the Yawkey Center and Gate D. Sorry, I just don't understand the hero worship of this guy. Only Heisman Trophy winner to come out of BC, put BC football on the map, gave BC a highlight that will go down in history, a local boy that beat the odds when people thought he was too small, he is still an active figure on campus, he has a foundation to support families affected by autism... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Flutie's a honest to goodness ass hole. But it figures that the little dwarf would want the statue to be 6 feet tall. The guy's a walking Napoleonic complex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Only Heisman Trophy winner to come out of BC, put BC football on the map, gave BC a highlight that will go down in history, a local boy that beat the odds when people thought he was too small, he is still an active figure on campus, he has a foundation to support families affected by autism... Big deal. Kelly has Hunter's hope and there are a lot of NFL guys with charities. I don't think Flutie scratches the surface of guys like Tasker, Kelly and a lot of other Bills and NFL players. I get the BC thing but I just get sick of the worship that people give this guy when he was a disruptive force in Buffalo. I guess BC has a reason to do that for him but it just sticks in my craw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 7, 2008 Author Share Posted November 7, 2008 Flutie's a honest to goodness ass hole. But it figures that the little dwarf would want the statue to be 6 feet tall. The guy's a walking Napoleonic complex. He's lucky to get 5'9". According to some reporters who've seen him he is about 5'7". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in CA Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Big deal. Kelly has Hunter's hope and there are a lot of NFL guys with charities. I don't think Flutie scratches the surface of guys like Tasker, Kelly and a lot of other Bills and NFL players. I get the BC thing but I just get sick of the worship that people give this guy when he was a disruptive force in Buffalo. I guess BC has a reason to do that for him but it just sticks in my craw. I'm just saying that Flutie means a lot to BC. The statue is a little much, seeing as how the only other statue on campus is of St. Ignatius, but the dude is a god at BC to this day. No one cares what he did after, although I still have my Bills Flutie jersey from when I was 15. And he is a short man- I'm 5'10' and he is probably 2 inches shorter than me. He's always been cool when I've talked to him (twice), even when I brought up the Bills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Sorry, I just don't understand the hero worship of this guy. "The Pass" was one of the defining moments in college football history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el Tigre Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 It's always interesting to me to see the strong reactions people have whenever Fluties name comes up. What exactly has he done that make some dislike him so much? I think he was a great college player who never was really given a fair shot in the NFL due to his size. I like listening to him on ESPN,he always has some good insights on the college game. He doesn't come across as an a-hole. I have a buddy who's a Titans fan and he loves to remind me to thank Wade for starting RJ in that playoff game. I do think the Bills were a better team with Flutie at QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 WTF "The only argument Doug and I have had in 10-plus years was when we said the statue would be 5-10," said BC athletic director Gene DeFilippo. "Doug wanted it to be six-feet tall." ______________________________________ The statue is expected to be unveiled in early November at one of the Eagles' home games. "It's a testament to Doug's accomplishments," said DeFilippo. The statue will be located between the Yawkey Center and Gate D. Sorry, I just don't understand the hero worship of this guy. What do you care anyways? Are you a Boston College alum. The guy did alot for the school & not only that he was a local kid which made what he did even more dramatic. Anyways, this really should not bother you either way unless you went to BC. If you did go to BC my apologies. You have every right to be annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 It's always interesting to me to see the strong reactions people have whenever Fluties name comes up. What exactly has he done that make some dislike him so much? I think he was a great college player who never was really given a fair shot in the NFL due to his size. I like listening to him on ESPN,he always has some good insights on the college game. I have a buddy who's a Titans fan and he loves to remind me thank Wade for starting RJ in that playoff game. I do think the Bills were a better team with Flutie at QB. I agree. The guy had a 22-11 career record as a starter with the bills. I think Rojo's record with the bills in that same time period was 7-10. I never was a huge flutie fan(in fact at the time I wanted Rojo to start). Over the years I have come to appreciate him more & more as the only winning QB this franchise has enjoyed since Jim Kelly. Yeah, he was a backstabber in the lockerroom & was insecure about his height/position on the team, but you know what, can you blame him? He was constantly getting screwed by NFL GMS that thought they knew everything. No matter what side you were on(& like I said before i was a ROJO guy) what the bills brass did to him in that playoff game against Tenn was wrong. You dont bench your starting qb just because the backup plays lights out in one meaningless game at the end of the season. That is not right & in the end the franchise probably got what it deserved, a mind numbing loss that IMO the franchise still has not fully recovered from 10yrs later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Perhaps flutie got benched because he was a self-serving egomaniac on top of the fact that he simply wasnt very good. With the dwarf, it was always, "*I* did this great play, but *WE* made a bad play." He was a decent "reliever" but once teams had a handful of games to look at, shutting down flutie was easy as pie. Everyone blows him for '99, when in fact the offense sucked ass that year, in large part to flutie. The D carried to the playoffs in '99, NOT flutie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted November 7, 2008 Share Posted November 7, 2008 Perhaps flutie got benched because he was a self-serving egomaniac on top of the fact that he simply wasnt very good. With the dwarf, it was always, "*I* did this great play, but *WE* made a bad play." He was a decent "reliever" but once teams had a handful of games to look at, shutting down flutie was easy as pie. Everyone blows him for '99, when in fact the offense sucked ass that year, in large part to flutie. The D carried to the playoffs in '99, NOT flutie. Your preaching to the choir here. Totally agree. That was a true top 3 defense we had that year. But.... with that being said, in a one game playoff where the loser goes home & the winner advances & as bad as Flutie played all year I would pick him as my starting qb over Rob Johnson any day of the week & twice on sunday every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 "The Pass" was one of the defining moments in college football history. Which is interesting because Flutie needs to acknowledge the WR who caught the ball. All Flutie did on that play is throw the hail mary jump ball, and he gets all the credit. The WR who caught the ball - a trivia question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 It's always interesting to me to see the strong reactions people have whenever Fluties name comes up. What exactly has he done that make some dislike him so much? I think he was a great college player who never was really given a fair shot in the NFL due to his size. I like listening to him on ESPN,he always has some good insights on the college game. He doesn't come across as an a-hole. I have a buddy who's a Titans fan and he loves to remind me to thank Wade for starting RJ in that playoff game. I do think the Bills were a better team with Flutie at QB. People really need to get over this concept. He has been given plenty of shots, on 4 different teams. His problem was he was never good enough to keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Which is interesting because Flutie needs to acknowledge the WR who caught the ball. All Flutie did on that play is throw the hail mary jump ball, and he gets all the credit. The WR who caught the ball - a trivia question. True. Anyone with a strong arm could throw it down the field. A receiver that can move into position to catch it, while while over 10 guys jockey for the ball, is the much better player on that play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 Who is more responsible for that play? As I said any strong armed QB could have made the throw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 True. Anyone with a strong arm could throw it down the field. A receiver that can move into position to catch it, while while over 10 guys jockey for the ball, is the much better player on that play. So a 5'8"-ish QB throwing the ball ~65 yards in the air is not as good as the WR who simply runs down the field and catches the ball? Flutie sure as hell wasn't your average strong-armed QB - it probably took every fiber of his being to make that throw, especially after throwing 45 passes earlier in that game. Any player who could catch a ball could have caught that pass. That WR didn't do anything special on that play -- he was behind the Miami DB's and waited for the ball to drop into his arms. He didn't jockey for position, didn't out-leap anyone, didn't catch it off a deflection -- all he did was catch the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 So a 5'8"-ish QB throwing the ball ~65 yards in the air is not as good as the WR who simply runs down the field and catches the ball? Flutie sure as hell wasn't your average strong-armed QB - it probably took every fiber of his being to make that throw, especially after throwing 45 passes earlier in that game. Here's a great example of why this "spectacular" play by Flutie is overhyped: Question: What does Flutie being 5'8"-ish have anything to do with this play? Answer: Nothing. Zip. Zilch. But unfortunately, that is what people focus in on, the midget throwing the ball. You want to know why it is a height issue? How many other QBs, collegiate or professional, threw game winning hail marys? Of those that did, you honestly think they all had "strong arms"? How come you never hear about those ones? Just a wild guess on my part, it may have something to do with their "height" not being an issue. Any player who could catch a ball could have caught that pass. That WR didn't do anything special on that play -- he was behind the Miami DB's and waited for the ball to drop into his arms. He didn't jockey for position, didn't out-leap anyone, didn't catch it off a deflection -- all he did was catch the ball. Exactly. Flutie did nothing special with the ball. This was not a pinpoint pass, thrown like it was on a frozen rope, into triple coverage, that hit the WR in stride. He threw the damn thing to an area on the field, with nothing more than a hope and a prayer a BC player catches the ball. You are right about the WR. He didn't jockey for it, or out leap anybody, he just did the one important thing those others players did NOT do. He caught the fugging ball. Which just happens to be the most important aspect of that particular play. And if you do not think that was not the most important aspect, consider this: Instead of being caught, the ball hits the ground or is intercepted. Would anybody be talking about that play 20+ years later? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 "The Pass" was one of the defining moments in college football history. Yup. If you had to pick a "Bobby Thompson" moment for college football, that would probably be it. And I'll always love him for breaking the hearts of Thug U. He's right there with Frank Reich and Pat Terrell. Who is more responsible for that play? As I said any strong armed QB could have made the throw. So what? You can't diminish his accomplishment because there are other people alive who "could have" made the throw. Fact is, HE made the throw. And if you remember the game, you'd know that it wasn't a single play. Flutie played out of his mind the entire game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Yup. If you had to pick a "Bobby Thompson" moment for college football, that would probably be it. And I'll always love him for breaking the hearts of Thug U. He's right there with Frank Reich and Pat Terrell. So what? You can't diminish his accomplishment because there are other people alive who "could have" made the throw. Fact is, HE made the throw. And if you remember the game, you'd know that it wasn't a single play. Flutie played out of his mind the entire game. I agree with Steely that the statue is a bit much. But let's not use that as cause to denigrate all his accomplishments or one of college football's defining plays. And for the record, I couldn't stand Flutie when he was here. When it became apparent what a douche he was I wanted him gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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