My take on Barack Obama's Election

[murra]

Well at least you dropped that common sense statement. How do you know that societies would still hand down punisment? Look I am not a religious hack , this country was founded on Judo Christion concepts one of which is the Bible ask a lawyer what the laws of this country were orginally based on . Here is one for you ,you always hear the separation of church and state. It means literally there shall be no state religions (ones established by the state) If religions was not so important to this country why is it always mentioned?

 

Actually individual states can establish their own state religion if not mentioned in their individual constitutions, but I get what you're saying.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

You're sounding every day more and more like you're a misinformed liberal, who has more conservative ideals than they even realize. Aside from your little pragmatic rant at the end, you were almost there. Still missing the point that the removal of "under god" has more serious repercussions than "not suffering".

 

But that's just thing, I don't like the labels. See, I didn't register with a party, and I consider myself to be a pragmatist more than a liberal or a conservative. If a certain side of an issue makes sense to me, I'll support it regardless of whether its traditionally "liberal" or "conservative". Gay marriage? Makes sense. Welfare checks for single mothers who work 50 hours a week and still can't feed their 3 kids? Makes sense. Invading Iraq? Doesn't make sense. A troop surge? Makes sense. Abortion? DEFINITELY doesn't make sense.

 

I've always thought it's better to examine your own political leanings on a case-by-case basis.

[Boomer860]

Actually individual states can establish their own state religion if not mentioned in their individual constitutions, but I get what you're saying.

True but I think it would end up going to the Supreme Court I see it as a non issue as for as the states are concerned.

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

Haha. And I was defending you.

 

You do realize that the ten commandments, or the code of hammurabi, those ancient tablets, are exactly what laws were written by. Yes, laws in the western society derived from their absolute monarchy, who often used religion to create laws. Religion has those moralities we discussed earlier, and those are def. used in developing our constitution.

 

Why were you going through the amendments? Look at the constitution itself. I can think of plenty examples.

 

But laws do evolve through necessitation. Society would be pretty screwed up if we still went by the Code of Hammurabi. After all, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. And I believe there are sections in the code which make sure to regard slaves as less than human.

 

And new laws have to be created due to evolving circumstances. We certainly have laws against child pornography, insurance fraud, and doing LSD. None of those things had much relevance in the ancient days, so it is incorrect to say that "most laws, if not all laws" have their basis in the ten commandments.

[Boomer860]

But that's just thing, I don't like the labels. See, I didn't register with a party, and I consider myself to be a pragmatist more than a liberal or a conservative. If a certain side of an issue makes sense to me, I'll support it regardless of whether its traditionally "liberal" or "conservative". Gay marriage? Makes sense. Welfare checks for single mothers who work 50 hours a week and still can't feed their 3 kids? Makes sense. Invading Iraq? Doesn't make sense. A troop surge? Makes sense. Abortion? DEFINITELY doesn't make sense.

 

I've always thought it's better to examine your own political leanings on a case-by-case basis.

You are right , of course the media doesnt like free thinkers and labels are just used to measure tendancies but everyone has a little of each. Unfortunaley if we did not have polictal parties there would be mass confusion and no organization , worse than it is now

[ieatcrayonz]

But laws do evolve through necessitation. Society would be pretty screwed up if we still went by the Code of Hammurabi. After all, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

That part about going blind is something your mom and dad made up. You can't really go blind doing that

[SageAgainstTheMachine]

That part about going blind is something your mom and dad made up. You can't really go blind doing that

 

haha, i'll admit that made me laugh.

[Boomer860]

But laws do evolve through necessitation. Society would be pretty screwed up if we still went by the Code of Hammurabi. After all, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind. And I believe there are sections in the code which make sure to regard slaves as less than human.

 

And new laws have to be created due to evolving circumstances. We certainly have laws against child pornography, insurance fraud, and doing LSD. None of those things had much relevance in the ancient days, so it is incorrect to say that "most laws, if not all laws" have their basis in the ten commandments.

 

"so it is incorrect to say that "most laws, if not all laws" have their basis in the ten commandments" No its not they all can be traced back to the orginal ten. Even the ones you mentiond To lenghty to do a comparsion here .

[Boomer860]

That part about going blind is something your mom and dad made up. You can't really go blind doing that

Or grow hair on the palm of your hand

[buckeyemike]

Hmmm...methinks my thread has been hijacked.

 

In the space of 89 posts, we've gone from Barack Obama to masturbation jokes.