elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Gas tax holiday "Drill Here Drill Now" The tire gauge Celebrity Sarah Palin Lipstick on a Pig Suspending his campaign to "return" to Washington Sarah Palin Socialist Joe the Plumber Sarah Palin Spread the Wealth Bill Ayers Khalid Rashidi Joe Biden says we will be attacked The Coal Thing Jeremiah Wright 163 ELECTORAL VOTES! Great campaign John! Worst collection of gimmicks ever!
Steely Dan Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I mentioned to a Republican friend that I thought Kerry lost due to a poorly run campaign and he accused me of being partisan on the issue but I think the same thing with McCain. He made a lot of stupid mistakes. I think the biggest mistake he made was picking Palin as his running mate. They were trying to get the women who supported Hillary into their campaign. The problem with that is that women have brains and are capable of clear thought. She represented the complete opposite politically of what Hillary supporters wanted. She also opened her mouth and spoke and that's a big reason the McCain campaign tanked. He would have been better off with a strong male running mate. IMO, she was the worst VP choice, slightly below Dan Quayle.
BillsNYC Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Between Bush and the economic crisis, McCain was not going to win this election. The fact that he got 46% of the vote (more than HW or Dole) is a miracle in itself. Palin had nothing to do with it although I'm sure she will get most of the blame. It didn't matter who McCain picked, he could have picked Bloomberg which would have been good for the economy but all conservatives would have stayed home. Once the market collapsed it was over. Someone acknowledged that even Reagan wouldn't have been able to overcome that.
Boomer860 Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 The only thing that matters in any campaign is not the person , not the issues , its the money.
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 Between Bush and the economic crisis, McCain was not going to win this election. The fact that he got 46% of the vote (more than HW or Dole) is a miracle in itself. Ross Perot.
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 huh? Ross Perot makes it hard to compare vote totals from 1992/1996 with 2008.
RayFinkle Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Between Bush and the economic crisis, McCain was not going to win this election. The fact that he got 46% of the vote (more than HW or Dole) is a miracle in itself. Not true. I am an independent and had every intention of voting for McCain when he got the nomination. Unfortunately, after he got the nomination, he caved to the base, and alienated many people who had supported him. If he would have picked Liberman, stopped spewing hard right talking points and just been John McCain, he would have absolutely had my vote.
BillsNYC Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Not true. I am an independent and had every intention of voting for McCain when he got the nomination. Unfortunately, after he got the nomination, he caved to the base, and alienated many people who had supported him. If he would have picked Liberman, stopped spewing hard right talking points and just been John McCain, he would have absolutely had my vote. Same boat here, but I still went with him. Exit polls showed people voted based on the economy and change. Palin had little effect on that. If McCain would have went with Lieberman you (and I) would have been happier, but then the base would have thrown their support behind Ron Paul or stayed home. The VP pick was a lose lose for McCain after the economy fell apart.
BillsNYC Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Ross Perot makes it hard to compare vote totals from 1992/1996 with 2008. Ah....good point.
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 Ah....good point. It's hard to believe that only 16 years ago a third party candidate got 18% of the vote.
Hazed and Amuzed Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I agree, all the Righties that woke up bitter about Obama's win last night need to focus their attention to their own candidate. McCain blew it. He blew it in so many different ways I've lost count.
BillsNYC Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I agree, all the Righties that woke up bitter about Obama's win last night need to focus their attention to their own candidate. McCain blew it. He blew it in so many different ways I've lost count. How does McCain win the election?
Hazed and Amuzed Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 How does McCain win the election? IDK, I'm not a political guru but I believe he could have done a few things better. Palin and the constant straw grasping did not help him one bit.
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 How does McCain win the election? I don't know how he could have won it but I think that he should have only talked about two things- taxes and energy and barely even mention Obama. That and a better VP pick like Huckabee, Romney, Ridge, or Crist and who knows.
PromoTheRobot Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 I mentioned to a Republican friend that I thought Kerry lost due to a poorly run campaign and he accused me of being partisan on the issue but I think the same thing with McCain. He made a lot of stupid mistakes. I think the biggest mistake he made was picking Palin as his running mate. They were trying to get the women who supported Hillary into their campaign. The problem with that is that women have brains and are capable of clear thought. She represented the complete opposite politically of what Hillary supporters wanted. She also opened her mouth and spoke and that's a big reason the McCain campaign tanked. He would have been better off with a strong male running mate. IMO, she was the worst VP choice, slightly below Dan Quayle. I know many Republicans who refused to vote McCain soley because of Palin. I also believe the McCain campaign was divided internally which explains why there were all over the road. PTR
Alaska Darin Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 Gas tax holiday"Drill Here Drill Now" The tire gauge Celebrity Sarah Palin Lipstick on a Pig Suspending his campaign to "return" to Washington Sarah Palin Socialist Joe the Plumber Sarah Palin Spread the Wealth Bill Ayers Khalid Rashidi Joe Biden says we will be attacked The Coal Thing Jeremiah Wright 163 ELECTORAL VOTES! Great campaign John! Worst collection of gimmicks ever! It isn't even the worst campaign in the last decade. Al Gore ring a bell, liberaltard?
elegantelliotoffen Posted November 5, 2008 Author Posted November 5, 2008 It isn't even the worst campaign in the last decade. Al Gore ring a bell, liberaltard? Who had more electoral votes? Who had a higher percentage of the popular vote? I'm sorry but facts matter.
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted November 5, 2008 Posted November 5, 2008 It isn't even the worst campaign in the last decade. Al Gore ring a bell, liberaltard? If Al Gore lost in a blowout, you might have a point, basheveryonedickwad
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