TheChimp Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 This is the best line we've had here in five years, and while I realize that's not saying much, how come its only now that the O-line is finally exposed now that Trent is starting? Sorry, but I think it's you who needs to get his head out of the dirt. Did that "best line we've had here in five years" PLAY really well today? Sheesh, people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 This is the best line we've had here in five years, and while I realize that's not saying much, how come its only now that the O-line is finally exposed now that Trent is starting? Sorry, but I think it's you who needs to get his head out of the dirt. Â Best line in 5 years??? Â BTW, finally exposed cause Trent is starting?? Nope, they were expose a long time ago. It takes a few weeks of game tape when the opposition realizes YOU CAN'T RUN THE BALL and tee's off on the QB. If Trent had ANY protection or run blocking, this would have been a much different game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yeah, that's it. Way to see the big picture. Â WOW! I feel as if I've been saved! Â How could I believe that the O-line, D-line, pass rush, run defense, run blocking, pass blocking, injured WR's, poor coaching, injured DE's have anything to do with this loss? How dare me! Â THANK YOU FOR POINTING IT OUT TO ME THAT TRENT IS THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS TEAM!! Wow! I find it very interesting that all of those facets of the game were not issues when JP lost games! Yet, it is virtually the same schemes, the same or better players. Now I know none of these factors existed back a few games ago when we lost the Arizona game. In that game, it was simply JP. Of course, any poor play by those other facets of the game were simply because Trent wasn't in there inspiring them to better things. Â Wonder where all that inspiration went over the last few games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flbillsfan#1 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 And if he isn't? JP Losman is not going to come in and fix things. So yes, it's stupid. Your point basically is that Trent supporters are somehow hypocrites. Who the hell cares. I don't think it's so stupid after reading this thread, the point that Trent supporters are HYPOCRITES is dead on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 289, 1 TD, 2 INTÂ I think Trent can defend himself. 1 TD -pass to aq Bill, 1 to a Jet. Both from in close. He also tried and failed to give Jets a TD on a fumble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I can empathize with the OP, because my fuzzy memory doesn't ever recall JP getting a similar pass from the fans. No pocket awareness, takes too long to read plays, turnover machine. Sound familiar? Oh wait, the run game was invisible and Bills couldn't stop the opposition when they needed to. Sound familiar?  Let's revisit another great quote:  "So with Trent out there I don't have any worries at all. I sit on the bench, drink a little water, a little Gatorade and I glance over at the scoreboard. We need him out there. I felt like if we had him for the entire game against Arizona we might be sitting here talking about a 6-0 football team instead of 5-1. I really believe that."  Nostalgia is great, isn't it? Oh, damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Did that "best line we've had here in five years" PLAY really well today? Sheesh, people. I did say it ain't sayin much, didn't I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I completely agree with you. I'm simply responding to Trent's play in the same manner all the Trentsters responded to JPs play last year. JP was often unfairly criticized. It's just Trent's turn now. This team has had a lot of bad play and coaching from a large cast the past couple weeks. Â Fine, Trent though is a better QB than Losman. Not to sound like I'm a homer at all, but, Trent has been a victim of poor play by the D and O-lines, while JP was a victim of his own poor play. Trent is a much better QB who will only improve, while JP is an OK QB, who has only gotten worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Is it time for Hamdan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Force_Majeur Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yeah, when the Jets don't have to defend the run, they can throw a bunch of people back to cover our receivers. That's why it looked like Trent held the ball a bit too long at times. The root in this case: lack of a decent running game to offest that sort of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Is it time for Hamdan? Â Â Hamden loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not, he loves me, he loves me not.... Â Â Not..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manateefan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 I thought Edward played pretty well overall. His first pick was from Roscoe falling down, and his 2nd pick was his fault, but overall a good game. I know the box score doesn't reflect that, but he played very well with no running game. Â Both picks looked like NY were the receivers. I don't blame him for the fumble. He was blindsided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Give Trent an O-line that can run block and we are a good team. Â PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bizell Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Fine, Trent though is a better QB than Losman. Not to sound like I'm a homer at all, but, Trenthas been a victim of poor play by the D and O-lines, while JP was a victim of his own poor play. Trent is a much better QB who will only improve, while JP is an OK QB, who has only gotten worse. Â i don't think there has been one person in here that said losman is better than edwards. what we're looking for here is consistency in criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Why do people feel they have to rag on the few players actually doing their job? How about Corey McIntyre who whiffed his block when TE was sacked and fumbled? How about Jason Whittle totally oblivious of a Jets blitzer as he ran right by him? How about our fat tub-of-lard O-line that is so bad we have to abandon the running game so defenses just tee off on our pass game? How about or D-line that gave Favre all day? Â Edwards had his share of bad plays but he didn't cost us the game. You think JP would be better? The AZ game proved otherwise. This team will never do anything until we fix our lines. That's the bottom line. Nothing else works until you do that. Â PTR Â Chief, one look at your avatar destroys any cedibility you might otherwise have. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 No - he didn't. He made a handful of bad plays that cost us 13 points and probably the game. However, there was an awful lot of good in there. The passing game moves very well - even w/o a running game. Â Bingo. He made some plays and made some mistakes, it happens to every QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Fine, Trent though is a better QB than Losman. Not to sound like I'm a homer at all, but, Trenthas been a victim of poor play by the D and O-lines, while JP was a victim of his own poor play. Trent is a much better QB who will only improve, while JP is an OK QB, who has only gotten worse. Did Peters throw a 92 yard pick right into the defender's hands when the Bills were in control of the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manateefan Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Football is a team game. Always was, always will be. Trent is part of the team and should take his fair share of the blame. But he shouldn't be the only one singled out. Everyone needs to stop being so over-dramatic! Â It's funhy that when L9sman is in there it is all his fault but when Edwards plays it is a team game and the blame should be shared. Face it, Edwards has stunk up the field the last two games. Yes offensive line stuck, defense screwed up, but Edwards played like everyone says Losman plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChimp Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Trent's taking the blame in his interview. Good start. Now let's hope his coaches know how to make him better. So far, I haven't seen a whole lot of great coaching, amking any of the guys actually better than they started, and that's a coaching issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Both picks looked like NY were the receivers. I don't blame him for the fumble. He was blindsided. Blindsided by the LDE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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