/dev/null Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122533157015082889.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Great article by an unlikely author. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Nice piece. Not that any of the see-no-evil-hear-no-evil-speak-no-evil Obama supporters could take it to heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Liberals might be disappointed with Obama. Yes, that's a chance we are taking. No doubt Conservatives have had a hell of a let down but not just Bush but the entire Conservative movement which has turned out to be are farce. But what will Conservatives do if Obama is a great big success? Not only will their party look even more disconected and childish than it already is, but Liberals wil enjoy popular support and the gratitude of the nation. The country will swing Center-Left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 What a cynic, but true -- and the same could be said for what happens to McCain's supporters, it will be an official stamp that the neo-con movement is over. They will go back to their hovels and realize that their leaders failed and failed miserably as they blindly supported them as they strayed off the track in the name of political expediency which came back to bite them hard. Its the pendulum swinging baby. The only difference between the Arab world and the US is that there is a basic distrust of our leaders, we speak about these leaders' flaws openly. It is the basic tenant of American politics... did it work? No, okay lets try something different.... So what, get over yourself. Our politics despite some of the lemmings on the Left and Right are not a religion and as God made humans, we all have our flaws that we are coming to terms with and trying to overcome. For we are a country of immigrants that said enough is enough, I am going somewhere else to try something different in a place that will give me the space to go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 That is what happens... We all know the conservative movement was destined to fail even with the jump start 28 years ago. Things weren't too rosy pre-1929. If you want to turn the clock back to the pre-depression time... You are going to get the crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Oh: "Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the late Democratic senator from New York, once set the difference between American capitalism and the older European version by observing that America was the party of liberty, whereas Europe was the party of equality." You don't think that has a lot to do with European aristocracy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Oh: "Daniel Patrick Moynihan, the late Democratic senator from New York, once set the difference between American capitalism and the older European version by observing that America was the party of liberty, whereas Europe was the party of equality." You don't think that has a lot to do with European aristocracy? What do you mean? That because there was a legal aristocracy the people reacted to it by trying to enforce equality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 What do you mean? That because there was a legal aristocracy the people reacted to it by trying to enforce equality? Sorta. I don't totally agree with DPM because there was liberty... Liberty for the rich and the aristocratic class... They were more in tune with equality because of the big dispartity between rich and poor. We will see it here with more of the same conservative movement... If we aren't already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 The Crowd can't help it! http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/ Is Barack Obama a brilliant orator, captivating millions through his eloquence? Or is he deliberately using the techniques of neurolinguistic programming (NLP), a covert form of hypnosis? Techniques of trance induction include extra slow speech, rhythm, tonalities, vagueness, visual imagery, metaphor, and raising of emotion. Hypnotists often have patients count. In a speech after the primaries closed, Obama said: “Sixteen months have passed (paused)…Thousands (pause) of miles…(pause)…Millions of voices….” Obama actually said at one time: “a light will shine down from somewhere, it will light upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will say to yourself, ‘I have to vote for Barack.’” You will not choose to vote for Barack: you will “have to.” It is not a logical choice, but rather one directed by a mystical (subconscious) force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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