Joe the Plumber thinks vote for Obama = Death of Israel

[DC Tom]

Even better:

 

Theesir says "I am against, in all circumstances, against anything that would be beneficial for child pornographers!"

 

 

Other party campaign commercial...... Theesir supports child pornographers... here's the quote "I am....in all circumstances...for child pornographers"

 

Do you want to vote for a child pornographer??

 

No, you're still not doing it right. You can't edit words out of the middle of a sentence, you have to use sentences in whole. Try:

 

"Let's assume I supported child pornographers like my opponent might. I would give child pornographers tax breaks on photographic equipment, and fight for a constitutional amendment to protect their civil rights. But I don't support them...in fact, I will fight to keep your children free from these scum by legislating summary execution for them!"

 

Your opponent gets a hold of it, and it then becomes:

 

"Let's assume I supported child pornographers like my opponent might. I would give child pornographers tax breaks on photographic equipment, and fight for a constitutional amendment to protect their civil rights. But I don't support them...in fact, I will fight to keep your children free from these scum by legislating summary execution for them!"

 

That's pretty much what happened with Biden's "Obama will be tested in six months" statements. That's also why I'd never run for office; having to watch every single word you say, lest someone pull a phrase out of context? No thanks.

[IDBillzFan]

Since when did McCain start so closely associating himself with law breakers?

So let's recap, shall we....?

 

Obama says he is for the middle class, and that the middle class will get tax cuts. It seems, however, that we first are going to do a background check on EVERY middle class person to ensure they have not broken the law, correct? We're going to make sure they are ALL legal? We are going to make sure they are ALL licensed to work in their field?

 

A background check on each and every middle class person, right?

 

I JUST want to make sure this is the way it's going to work, because you guys NEVER let up on shoving Joe in the dirt, and since Joe -- as middle class as you can get -- is such a vile and despicable person for having broken the law, then we clearly must qualify ALL middle class people before we're willing to figure out who we want to help and who we want to shove in the dirt. Right?

 

Oh, and since we're going after deadbeats, it looks like the media has found Obama's famed Aunt Zeituni from his "Dreams From My Father" book. They also seemed to have found a trace of his Uncle Omar, who was evicted from his Boston apartment for failure to pay $2,324.20 arrears, according to the Boston Housing Court.

 

Obama's own uncle. Skipping out on the tab. Oh, Bama...say it ain't so.

 

Oh, and asked to comment, apparently the aunt said she has to shut up until after the election:

 

Speaking outside her home in Flaherty Way, South Boston, on Tuesday, Ms Onyango, 56, confirmed she was the “Auntie Zeituni” in Mr Obama’s memoir. She declined to answer most other questions about her relationship with the presidential contender until after the November 4 election. “I can’t talk about it, I just pray for him, that’s all,” she said, adding: “After the 4th, I can talk to anyone.”

Be careful what you wish for, lefties, as you will surely get it.

[YellowLinesandArmadillos]

So let's recap, shall we....?

 

Obama says he is for the middle class, and that the middle class will get tax cuts. It seems, however, that we first are going to do a background check on EVERY middle class person to ensure they have not broken the law, correct? We're going to make sure they are ALL legal? We are going to make sure they are ALL licensed to work in their field?

 

A background check on each and every middle class person, right?

 

I JUST want to make sure this is the way it's going to work, because you guys NEVER let up on shoving Joe in the dirt, and since Joe -- as middle class as you can get -- is such a vile and despicable person for having broken the law, then we clearly must qualify ALL middle class people before we're willing to figure out who we want to help and who we want to shove in the dirt. Right?

 

Oh, and since we're going after deadbeats, it looks like the media has found Obama's famed Aunt Zeituni from his "Dreams From My Father" book. They also seemed to have found a trace of his Uncle Omar, who was evicted from his Boston apartment for failure to pay $2,324.20 arrears, according to the Boston Housing Court.

 

Obama's own uncle. Skipping out on the tab. Oh, Bama...say it ain't so.

 

Oh, and asked to comment, apparently the aunt said she has to shut up until after the election:

 

 

Be careful what you wish for, lefties, as you will surely get it.

You guys started it with Ayers crap, I don't know about Obama, you could be correct, but my only point is that you law an order types wear that badge until it causes you problems a la ignoring the rule...Joe the Plumber, Romney the foreign maid, McCain... military code of conduct up until his rude awakening as a POW, Bush being AWOL...drinking and chasing skirts... Cheney three medical deferments... , I know, I know Clinton... Our deadbeats usually have less money than yours, except when high enough up in the GOP echelon it comes with a $150,000 clothing allowance.

 

Thanks for biting, I got more and I am sure you do too

[In-A-Gadda-Levitre]

So let's recap, shall we....?

 

Obama says he is for the middle class, and that the middle class will get tax cuts. It seems, however, that we first are going to do a background check on EVERY middle class person to ensure they have not broken the law, correct? We're going to make sure they are ALL legal? We are going to make sure they are ALL licensed to work in their field?

 

A background check on each and every middle class person, right?

 

I JUST want to make sure this is the way it's going to work, because you guys NEVER let up on shoving Joe in the dirt, and since Joe -- as middle class as you can get -- is such a vile and despicable person for having broken the law, then we clearly must qualify ALL middle class people before we're willing to figure out who we want to help and who we want to shove in the dirt. Right?

 

Oh, and since we're going after deadbeats, it looks like the media has found Obama's famed Aunt Zeituni from his "Dreams From My Father" book. They also seemed to have found a trace of his Uncle Omar, who was evicted from his Boston apartment for failure to pay $2,324.20 arrears, according to the Boston Housing Court.

 

Obama's own uncle. Skipping out on the tab. Oh, Bama...say it ain't so.

 

Oh, and asked to comment, apparently the aunt said she has to shut up until after the election:

 

 

Be careful what you wish for, lefties, as you will surely get it.

your hero, that persecuted American icon, that patriot amongst us, Joe the Plumber, is a liar...

 

The man that lives next door to me is a plumber, he has 4 men working for him and he doesn't gross more than $230K.

 

Joe isn't going to buy his employer's business out, he isn't going to make $250K this year, next year, or in all likelihood, during Obama's first term even if he was able to somehow buy that 2-man business. He's never going to get a loan, because he isn't creditworthy. He can't even pay his taxes on the $40K he makes today and he has the balls to complain about some theoretical windfall income based on a lie. His lack of a license just shows you he makes choices in a way that skirts the law, but that doesn't really factor into the equation.

 

He's like a guy that comes to your house to buy a car you have for sale, says he's seriously interested, takes it for a test drive, promises to get back to you tomorrow and never does, because he's a dreamer, not a buyer.

 

He made a conscious choice to get in front of Obama and misrepresent himself in order to discredit the senator from Illinois because he disagrees with the man's platform. Any criticism he gets, he has brought on himself for being dishonest.

 

Get over it...

[Boomer860]

My heros are presently serving in the military. In all this BS about the economy and money ,young americans are in harms way. Its almost like the war is over. If anyone really wants to support the troops , instead of just giving them lip service , give them a leader that is experienced in that area. Obama hasnt got a clue and what kind of leadership it takes to get the job done. To be honest with you Bush did not give them enough support to bring the war to an end and I dont mean just coming home . Bush took his advice from Rumsfeld instead of the Generals who conduct the operation. My concern is that Obama will give them less support either by his own ideas or by inexperience or both.

[Typical TBD Guy]

I'm an Obama supporter and would have hidden Biden a month ago. He can't seem to think before he speaks. About 1/3 of what he says comes out the way he wants it to.

 

Of course Palin seems to have lost control of whether what comes out of her mouth is true or not and doesn't seem to care. She said yesterday that Obama is planning to change the constitution so that the government can seize private property and give it to other people.

 

I want to campaign! It seems like you can just make up anything you want about the opponent, anyone listening will assume you are telling the truth and the other candidate can't do a thing about it! What a great way to choose the leader of our land.

 

An awfully blunt way of saying Obama is not against all instances of eminent domain, but neverthess...Palin is actually right on this one.

[YellowLinesandArmadillos]

My heros are presently serving in the military. In all this BS about the economy and money ,young americans are in harms way. Its almost like the war is over. If anyone really wants to support the troops , instead of just giving them lip service , give them a leader that is experienced in that area. Obama hasnt got a clue and what kind of leadership it takes to get the job done. To be honest with you Bush did not give them enough support to bring the war to an end and I dont mean just coming home . Bush took his advice from Rumsfeld instead of the Generals who conduct the operation. My concern is that Obama will give them less support either by his own ideas or by inexperience or both.

 

I can appreciate your concerns on this deal and over Obama... should be a separate thread, but in lieu of that, I don't believe McCain's words on this either, although he will be more committed to getting all the troops out when it is time, support for them when they get home after military service is not a Republican strong suit.

 

I don't think, if he is elected that the Dems will want to open themselves up to much criticism on this front, so I expect them to make a real effort to support the troops, too many Dem veterans already serving as congresscritters. That being said, it appears that Obama is listening to Powell on that front... we shall see, it is still an issue open to interpretation.

[Boomer860]

I can appreciate your concerns on this deal and over Obama... should be a separate thread, but in lieu of that, I don't believe McCain's words on this either, although he will be more committed to getting all the troops out when it is time, support for them when they get home after military service is not a Republican strong suit.

 

I don't think, if he is elected that the Dems will want to open themselves up to much criticism on this front, so I expect them to make a real effort to support the troops, too many Dem veterans already serving as congresscritters. That being said, it appears that Obama is listening to Powell on that front... we shall see, it is still an issue open to interpretation.

Good point. I guess I would rather see the situation the military is in right now discussed more, both by the candidates ,on this board and the public in general. This election is about electing a Commander in Chief . If the media doesnt bring it up then its like it does not exist. You can not win a protracted war, I guess Bush and Rumsfeld did not read that book. I blame Rumsfeld for this debacle. War in this day and age is all about money . Point taken on a new thread thread.

[IDBillzFan]

your hero, that persecuted American icon, that patriot amongst us, Joe the Plumber, is a liar...

 

The man that lives next door to me is a plumber, he has 4 men working for him and he doesn't gross more than $230K.

 

Joe isn't going to buy his employer's business out, he isn't going to make $250K this year, next year, or in all likelihood, during Obama's first term even if he was able to somehow buy that 2-man business. He's never going to get a loan, because he isn't creditworthy. He can't even pay his taxes on the $40K he makes today and he has the balls to complain about some theoretical windfall income based on a lie. His lack of a license just shows you he makes choices in a way that skirts the law, but that doesn't really factor into the equation.

 

He's like a guy that comes to your house to buy a car you have for sale, says he's seriously interested, takes it for a test drive, promises to get back to you tomorrow and never does, because he's a dreamer, not a buyer.

 

He made a conscious choice to get in front of Obama and misrepresent himself in order to discredit the senator from Illinois because he disagrees with the man's platform. Any criticism he gets, he has brought on himself for being dishonest.

 

Get over it...

Nice job on the talking points. I suspect you won't read all of this, but the truth of the matter is, Joe asked a question that, while it may or may not pertain to Joe, resonates with A LOT of people. That's why you heard so many people at the time commenting to the effect of "Damn, the dude asked a better question than we heard in those weak-ass debates."

 

Here's your problem; the left's foot soldiers are furiously trying to discredit Joe -- precisely how you've been instructed to do it as displayed above-- in hopes that everyone will forget the answer to Joe's question.

 

Unfortunately, your challenge isn't Joe. The challenge is Obama's oft-replayed answer. But in typical Obama hocus-pocus, you yell about Joe in hopes that the average American will skip the answer.

 

The REAL problem, however, is you didn't have enough time to discredit Joe because you suddenly had Obama and Biden steadily lowering the amount you need to earn for a tax cut. Starts at $250,000, goes to $200,000, and then goes to $150,000. Well documented. I know, we misunderstood. But there is a ton of audio out there showing Obama and Biden lying in the beginning. And I can't turn on the radio without hearing those audio clips.

 

Then there's Biden. When he's not able to count to four, he's privately admitting to the world that WHEN Obama is elected president, he personally guarantees that we will not only be faced with a generated international crises to test the newbie, but goes so far as to let everyone know that there will be as many as five or six different ways it will happen. In fact, he's not even VP yet, and he's actually explaining to these people that when it DOES happen, you just have to trust the response even though it won't make sense at the time.

 

And talk about blowing money. The dude holds an infocommercial the same night the Phillies win the World Series. The same night a gun is found in the Hudson case. I haven't seen PR this bad since the Edsel was introduced. And you know why the Edsel failed? Ask any ad exec from back then. The Edsel failed because after all the hype leading up to it's introduction, the world was somewhat surprised and disappointed to find out it was nothing more than another car with four wheels and an engine.

 

Barack Obama. The 2008 model of the Edsel.

 

But hey...that Joe the Plumber. He's a real douchebag. :lol:

[JimmyPage]

Shep Smith, who gets kudos for being one of the most impartial hosts on Fox News, rips Joe the Plumber for agreeing with someone in the crowd that a vote for Obama means the Death of Israel

 

 

 

words = action, but words don't matter?

Early on Obama raised questions about the United States relationship with Israel.

But as a typical politician he came to realize he was going nowhere without AIPAC's support.

He has now promised $30 billion more in cash plus and a whole slew of new weapons for Israel paid for by you and I.

Isn't it great how politicians can buy votes with our money?

[theesir]

We talked yesterday, jokingly about making stuff up on the stump. Today's quote is better then anything we made up yesterday..... be careful if you read this, you may catch "the Gay".

You can disagree with someone and think their ideals will "ruin the country", but to make your point by just making up stuff and saying the candidate said it? Supporters of McCain agreeing with this tactic is like Bills fans who support fans who throw beer bottles at opposing fans in our stadium. The ridiculousness of what you are supporting is blinded by your allegiance.

 

Sen. Kit Bond, R-Missouri, fired up the crowd by warning them about Barack Obama’s judicial philosophy.

 

“Just this past week, we saw what Barack Obama said about judges,” Bond said. “He said, ‘I’m tired of these judges who want to follow what the Founding Fathers said and the Constitution. I want judges who have a heart, have an empathy for the teenage mom, the minority, the gay, the disabled. We want them to show empathy. We want them to show compassion.’”

 

By the way, he said this while warming up the crowd for a Palin (who has a disabled son) speech.

[DC Tom]

We talked yesterday, jokingly about making stuff up on the stump. Today's quote is better then anything we made up yesterday..... be careful if you read this, you may catch "the Gay".

You can disagree with someone and think their ideals will "ruin the country", but to make your point by just making up stuff and saying the candidate said it? Supporters of McCain agreeing with this tactic is like Bills fans who support fans who throw beer bottles at opposing fans in our stadium. The ridiculousness of what you are supporting is blinded by your allegiance.

 

 

 

By the way, he said this while warming up the crowd for a Palin (who has a disabled son) speech.

 

Bond took it easy on him. He could have mentioned how Obama has a harem of white slave women, or eats puppies raw for breakfast.

 

I mean, if you're just gonna make sh-- up, why pull punches?

[KD in CA]

Upset? We are winning. Joe the Loser can speak all the nonesense he wants

 

We?

 

Trust me, you are not winning no matter what happens on Nov. 4.

[erynthered]

We?

 

Trust me, you are not winning no matter what happens on Nov. 4.

 

 

( shhhh, its Peggy...)

[bills_fan_in_raleigh]

No, you're still not doing it right. You can't edit words out of the middle of a sentence, you have to use sentences in whole. Try:

 

"Let's assume I supported child pornographers like my opponent might. I would give child pornographers tax breaks on photographic equipment, and fight for a constitutional amendment to protect their civil rights. But I don't support them...in fact, I will fight to keep your children free from these scum by legislating summary execution for them!"

 

Your opponent gets a hold of it, and it then becomes:

 

"Let's assume I supported child pornographers like my opponent might. I would give child pornographers tax breaks on photographic equipment, and fight for a constitutional amendment to protect their civil rights. But I don't support them...in fact, I will fight to keep your children free from these scum by legislating summary execution for them!"

 

That's pretty much what happened with Biden's "Obama will be tested in six months" statements. That's also why I'd never run for office; having to watch every single word you say, lest someone pull a phrase out of context? No thanks.

Couldn't agree with you more and still mcCain wants to run ads with comments out of the full context.

 

You could never run because one could claim you support ____ and are against ___ just based on your posting on an internet message board.

[DC Tom]

Couldn't agree with you more and still mcCain wants to run ads with comments out of the full context.

 

You could never run because one could claim you support ____ and are against ___ just based on your posting on an internet message board.

 

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama's campaign was, too. He's probably doing much less of it, since he doesn't have to do much other than watch McCain's campaign self-destruct at this point, but I'm sure he still does it.

 

Just like the Bush campaign did with Kerry's "I voted for it before I voted against it", or everyone on the planet does with the Bush administration's statements (e.g. "Mission Accomplished"). I'm sure I could come up with other examples for virtually any American politician in the past thirty years, if not longer. Hell, I could probably do it with everyone on this board. I could quote Coli out of context and make him look like a raving, right-wing religions nut.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Because Republicans are the party of anti-intellectualism.

 

 

Because the rolls of the Democratic party are FAR more intellectual?

 

Uh, right. You're all dupes if you vote for either major party candidate. Sheeple.

[elegantelliotoffen]

 

Because the rolls of the Democratic party are FAR more intellectual?

 

Uh, right. You're all dupes if you vote for either major party candidate. Sheeple.

 

Myth 1: Less-educated white voters have deserted the Democrats because the party chose Obama as its candidate. As our chart shows, it is true that John McCain leads Obama among those Americans who never went to college - but so did George Bush four years ago. In fact there has been virtually no change in this group since 2004. The real point, therefore, is more subtle: Obama has failed to make the kind of inroads with the poorer educated that he has made among graduates. Within that group, for example, he has converted John Kerry's 11-point lead among those with postgraduate degrees into a 28-point lead today - a 17-point shift, double the national average.

 

The same shift can be detected among those whose top educational qualification is an undergraduate degree, where Bush led by 6 per cent in 2004 but Obama leads by 11 per cent today. Even if Obama has not done as well as he might have hoped among less-educated voters, he has more than offset this by his appeal to the college-educated, who make up 75 per cent of all US voters.

 

http://www.newstatesman.com/north-america/...-obama-vote-usa

[Johnny Coli]

 

Because the rolls of the Democratic party are FAR more intellectual?

 

Uh, right. You're all dupes if you vote for either major party candidate. Sheeple.

So, these Seventy-Six American Nobel Laureates who endorsed Obama are dupes, as well as the editors of the Journal Nature? All three of this year's American recipients endorse him, and Nature hasn't endorsed a candidate since its inception in 1869. Sheeple? Unlikely.

[JimmyPage]

So, these Seventy-Six American Nobel Laureates who endorsed Obama are dupes, as well as the editors of the Journal Nature? All three of this year's American recipients endorse him, and Nature hasn't endorsed a candidate since its inception in 1869. Sheeple? Unlikely.

Are they americans?

I doubt that the majority of them are.

They are anti-bush nuts rather than people who truely believe obama brings any meaningful experience or expertise.