StupidNation Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Donte took a bad angle on the play with the Raiders and we got burned for a TD this year. Dante got burned out of his jockstrap by Ginn on a few plays. He does give up more plays than that, but those just stand out. Now even in a Cover 2 the safeties DO make plays. Next, as someone else mentioned, we don't always run the Cover 2. No one throws to a safety, that's not their role, their role is to cover where the pass is going. The question isn't why doesn't the QB throw at Donte, but why Donte doesn't make a play at the ball. I know that might seem hard for some of you to understand, but that's why good safeties play their position. I've never seen a QB throw at Reed or Polamalu but they make plays at the ball. My biggest problem is Gates 2006 and 2008 with the Charges. There is a reason they put Scott on him rather than Whitner who was brought in here precisely to stop the new offenses that are TE heavy. Well why did we take him off? Because he's not sufficient to do it. Many of the arguments of why we got him are now thrown out the window. Hell, I don't need INTs, I just need to see him break up some pass plays. If anything thinks the role of the safety should be "wait until the WR catches the ball, then tackle him" I would love you to rethink how the position is played. We could've done the same thing with a FA mid-grade guy. If Donte was brought in to help stop the run then Ngata was our man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Donte took a bad angle on the play with the Raiders and we got burned for a TD this year. Dante got burned out of his jockstrap by Ginn on a few plays. He does give up more plays than that, but those just stand out. OK call out the plays, were Donte got toasted by Ginn yesterday.....ill rip them and youtube them for all of us to see.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 OK call out the plays, were Donte got toasted by Ginn yesterday.....ill rip them and youtube them for all of us to see.... Well he did look pretty silly getting turned inside out on the Ginn 60 yarder just before mitchell punched the ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 Well he did look pretty silly getting turned inside out on the Ginn 60 yarder just before mitchell punched the ball out. Again were talkin coverage here...... and on that play i thought Whitner did a great job cutting off Ginn's angle...and allowing Mitchell to have a chance to come from behind and strip that ball.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebug Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Again were talkin coverage here...... and on that play i thought Whitner did a great job cutting off Ginn's angle...and allowing Mitchell to have a chance to come from behind and strip that ball.... And why are we just talking coverage here? is that his only responsibility? or does that just help your case? yah he had the angle, he should get there..... and make the tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 To those bashing Whitner.....He doesnt get INT's...he doesnt get PD's...... HELLLLLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If the ball isnt thrown his way how is he suppose to compile these stats??? Watch the game yesterday....How many passes were thrown his direction?? Good luck finding more then one.... I would have loved to see him "Stick" it to Ginn in that 3rd quarter reception rather than the fly over and arm tackle. He stopped him, but he could have "stuck" him, lights out and perhaps Ginn may have been hesitant crossing the safeties territory. The same with the Ricky Williams TD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOOOOOO Posted October 28, 2008 Author Share Posted October 28, 2008 And why are we just talking coverage here? is that his only responsibility? or does that just help your case? yah he had the angle, he should get there..... and make the tackle. No were talking about coverage because there seems to be a few people on this board who seem he doesnt get INT's or PD's cuz he is terrible in coverage.....its simply not true.....He's actually very good in coverage....which is why his zone area is rarely tested in the pass game..... Now as far as his run defense is concerned, he still has his flaws there...for sure....he takes bad angles at times(Giants&Jags game last year clear examples)...Whitner has gotten better, year to year in his run support..... but on that play...he did what he had to....cut off Ginn's angle....lets be real Ginn is much faster then anyone on our D...Whitner cut his angle made Ginn have to try a semi juke which considerably slowed him down....allowing Mitchell to come from behind and knock that ball loose....unfortunitely it went out of bounds...... I would have loved to see him "Stick" it to Ginn in that 3rd quarter reception rather than the fly over and arm tackle. He stopped him, but he could have "stuck" him, lights out and perhaps Ginn may have been hesitant crossing the safeties territory. The same with the Ricky Williams TD. http://www.nfl.com/videos?categoryId=highlights <----check the game highlights.....at 1:24....Ginn catches the ball on a 10 yd post in...and Whitner charges in, lowers the shoulder...but Ginn saw him coming and dropped low to avoid it....Whitner still gets him good though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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