buckeyemike Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Linky As I am a Christian and a Republican, it might surprise you to know how I feel about this letter. It is long (16 pages in a PDF file), and you may not want to read it all, but you get the general idea in the first few pages. I find it to be fear-mongering. It is greatly disappointing and disturbing to me that fellow Christians have sunk this low, to try to scare people into voting for John McCain. As for me, I already voted absentee for McCain, so you can take that for what it's worth. I cannot believe that someone at Focus approved this letter as a hypothetical under an Obama administration. Its intent is to sway undecideds towards McCain, who isn't as conservative as James Dobson would like, but is the lesser of two evils. I've already printed this up and am keeping it for the next four years, so I can write Focus on October 23, 2012 and tell them how wrong they are. If Obama wins, that is. This makes me livid. Focus should lose its tax exemption for such garbage. We live in a free America and should not be subject to half-truths and hand-wringing speculation over what may happen, in order to scare someone to vote for one side over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 I've already printed this up and am keeping it for the next four years, so I can write Focus on October 23, 2012 and tell them how wrong they are. Why bother? I thought the world was going to end in 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 Why bother? I thought the world was going to end in 2012 That's only when the Mayan calendar ends. I've heard a new one begins in December of that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Thanks for the link. That is basically a work of fiction. It's very sad that people will indeed take that letter serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted October 27, 2008 Author Share Posted October 27, 2008 Thanks for the link. That is basically a work of fiction. It's very sad that people will indeed take that letter serious. As someone said here earlier, I would bet dollars to donuts that Obama moves toward the center if he is elected. Especially if it's close, as I think it could be. But I still think Obama pulls it out. This is still a center-right country, where the pendulum is moving toward the left, but it's not there. It's moving to the left due to the total ineptitude of the Bush administration to get out of its own way. Newsweek has a cover story on that very topic this week. Either way, nine days to go. Thank God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Yeah... I want to be a republican, but like Colin Powell said, the right has just gone too far to the right. To me they've gone off the deep end, and I can't vote for craziness like that. Taxes are not going to be anything worse than what we've had over the last 50 years And frankly, minus a ron paul like total change, no ones tax solutions are that great. .. and then to me the added bonuses of good environment policy, and improved image all over the world. I'll be happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Yeah... I want to be a republican, but like Colin Powell said, the right has just gone too far to the right. To me they've gone off the deep end, and I can't vote for craziness like that. I am republican and not very proud of the shift that has occurred. Maybe a major loss is what the party needs to shake it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The fiscal Rebublicans and hawkish Republicans should ditch the Jesus freaks and create a third party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The fiscal Rebublicans and hawkish Republicans should ditch the Jesus freaks and create a third party. not sure about the hawks but the fiscal republicans and democrats that are socially moderate should form a new party. They would be the majority and this way the right wing republican party and the left wing democrats would get the 10% each really have as a following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The fiscal Rebublicans and hawkish Republicans should ditch the Jesus freaks and create a third party. The problem with that idea is the fiscal conservative Democrats (yes there are some) might bolt your party as well. Leaving a small 3rd party of fiscal conservatives, but not enough to balance the other two parties consisting of the the loony left and the loony right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 I think the GOP should ditch the "jesus freaks" when the Dems ditch the "darkies." Two words: GEORGE SOROS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 The problem with that idea is the fiscal conservative Democrats (yes there are some) might bolt your party as well. Leaving a small 3rd party of fiscal conservatives, but not enough to balance the other two parties consisting of the the loony left and the loony right But wouldn't they be in a position to win a plurality of the vote in virtually every election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 But wouldn't they be in a position to win a plurality of the vote in virtually every election? You underestimate the size of the Evangelical vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramius Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Aside from the fact that the author is a closet pole smoker who hates himself, i have one question to ask... If Obama and the liberal supreme court and congress are going to force everyone to become a homo, they why are they up in arms about abortion? If we're all homos we wont need abortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Aside from the fact that the author is a closet pole smoker who hates himself, i have one question to ask... If Obama and the liberal supreme court and congress are going to force everyone to become a homo, they why are they up in arms about abortion? If we're all homos we wont need abortion. Makes me think about a study i saw a couple of years ago that basically told that homos were the best citizens a society can dream of: Big consumers, going for quality over quantity. High revenue Low health costs (an very healthy group that either die young or die very old) Very low social costs (no kids, very few needing welfare...) Low crime rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Well, stuff like that is really working. I wached some C-Span yesterday and an Obama worker was going door to door and they interviewed this Bengals fan and he was all about Obama being a muslim and all that. And he was a good person he seemed, just really badly misinformed by Fox News. This is from today's Washington Post: Indeed, hours of interviews with voters -- outside the Wal-Mart in Mingo, up the road in Logan County, and north of Charleston in the swing county of Jackson -- illustrate Obama's uphill climb and raise questions about similar voters in states such as Ohio and Pennsylvania. It does not take long to hear the worst rumors about Obama -- or to wonder how the people repeating them would deal with the fact of an Obama presidency, if it comes to pass. "If I do vote, it will be Republican," said Charles Mount, a 31-year-old mechanic and registered Democrat. "There's just something about Obama. You hear so much about him being a Muslim. I don't personally believe that but I don't know that. I'm not going to take a chance on the leader of our country." "If Barack Obama gets in, it basically will be giving our America away to whatever . . . ," said Jamie Willis, 42, who voted for Clinton in the primary. Her husband, Brent Willis, 37, a contractor and registered Democrat, filled in the blank. "To be brutally honest with you, if Obama goes in there the [blacks] are going to go crazy -- and I'm not a prejudiced person." Terry Sanders, a court clerk, said he "wouldn't vote for Obama if he was running for dog catcher. His values are completely different from mine. Why's he got a problem with the flag? He wouldn't put his hand over his heart. It casts a lot of doubt about what kind of man is this fellow." These are not incendiary quotes cherry-picked from among multiple interviews or cajoled out of people reluctant to express a view. They came from the first eight people who stopped to answer my questions -- of whom just one said she supported Obama, citing the backing of the mineworkers union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Aside from the fact that the author is a closet pole smoker who hates himself, i have one question to ask... If Obama and the liberal supreme court and congress are going to force everyone to become a homo, they why are they up in arms about abortion? If we're all homos we wont need abortion. I almost want to sig that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 not sure about the hawks but the fiscal republicans and democrats that are socially moderate should form a new party. They would be the majority and this way the right wing republican party and the left wing democrats would get the 10% each really have as a following. That makes a lot of sense . . . I take a lot of heat for being a Republican, especially living in the Buff . .. That said, there's not a lot of difference between my centrist republican views and some of my friends centrist democrat views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 As someone said here earlier, I would bet dollars to donuts that Obama moves toward the center if he is elected. Especially if it's close, as I think it could be. But I still think Obama pulls it out. This is still a center-right country, where the pendulum is moving toward the left, but it's not there. It's moving to the left due to the total ineptitude of the Bush administration to get out of its own way. Newsweek has a cover story on that very topic this week. Either way, nine days to go. Thank God. Didn't Obama piss a lot of minorities off when he became the Prez. of The Harvard Law Review... They all thought he would give the the plum jobs just because of race... Funny thing happened, he didn't. He judged by merit, no? Just saying. Many may be suprised how he leads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan Posted October 27, 2008 Share Posted October 27, 2008 Makes me think about a study i saw a couple of years ago that basically told that homos were the best citizens a society can dream of:Big consumers, going for quality over quantity. High revenue Low health costs (an very healthy group that either die young or die very old) Very low social costs (no kids, very few needing welfare...) Low crime rate Funny, you say that. About a decade ago, I was walking around Vegas with a buddy and we saw an older casino that was closed down (can't remeber which one) but still in seemingly decent shape. We both remarked that a great business idea would be a casino that catered to gays/lesbians...plenty of discretionary income. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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