gobillsinytown Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I was at every single home game against the fish from 1988 to 1996. The Bryan Cox era was the best. For one game, someone went out and bought a bunch of Dolphins trading cards, pulled out the Bryan Cox cards, and put them in the urinals of every men's room in the stadium. To this day, I would love to know who came up with that idea. This anonymous Bills Fan, a true hero for all of us to to see, will always have a special place in my heart as a shining example of how to elegantly express the hatred we all feel toward all things Miami.
devldog131 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 i agree for you "old timers" it's a great rivalry. But you have to stop living in the past and start living in the is. The younger generation who doesnt view it as a big rivalry anymore is the driving force of the league. The 15-30 fan base is not capture by the rivalry. if we were to re-align into a division with steelers, browns and bengals it would intensify everything from leading up to the game, the tailgaiting and the game itself. it would make things so much more interesting Speak for yourself, fella. I was born in 1981, and have fully embraced the complete and utter hatred for those aqua wearing fruits. A rivalry is always a rivalry, it may intensify and calm in waves, but when it comes down to it, I still hate the friggin' fish. That being said, I see more of a rivalry also developing with the pats*. They have been on top too long, and the Bills are growing into the only team in the AFC East capable of providing them with a challenge for the division crown. The perpetual champion vs. the upstart young team always creates a bit of discontent for both parties involved. But in the meantime, SQUISH THE FISH! Send them crying to their mothers in there gay little aqua and orange fag rags. There has been only one team with a more homo-erotic uni color in the history of the league, the creamsicle wearing buccaneers.
TheLynchTrain Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 i agree for you "old timers" it's a great rivalry. But you have to stop living in the past and start living in the is. The younger generation who doesnt view it as a big rivalry anymore is the driving force of the league. The 15-30 fan base is not capture by the rivalry. if we were to re-align into a division with steelers, browns and bengals it would intensify everything from leading up to the game, the tailgaiting and the game itself. it would make things so much more interesting 15-30 crowd? Not trying to hate, but those in the 15-30 crowd grew up in the 90s when the rivarly was still great, and they saw how pissed off their fathers and uncles and grandads got the week before we played them. I think the rivalry's still on, and it will only get better in the next few years. Everybody knows the Dolfaggots are going to be good, its just a matter of time. Parcells is a proven builder...maybe he can't win playoff games (certainly hasn't proved SB winners since the Giants) but he builds teams from the ground up. If he hadn't left Dallas, they'd probably be 7-0 right now and a good chance for the SB. But you watch, this rivalry will heat up again. Dolfags have a lot of promise in them...they're not supposed to be winning yet but they've showed a lot of promise, played hard, and showed some balls with the wildcat that has turned heads around the league. New England's sun is setting, and once Favre heads out of New Jersey, the Jeturds will be done once again. This rivalry will come back..you wait. Who knows, if they beat us this weekend, I'm sure on Monday EVERYONE on this board will be explaining how the rivalry is back and how much we hate em.
SouthernMan Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I still love that Shula's last game was a 37-22 loss to the Bills in the 1995 playoffs. And that Mr all-world coach was spanked regularly by Marv & Company. I'll never forget the sourpuss look on Shula's face during Marv's HOF induction ceremony. Shula was seated behind the podium, directly in camera view during the proceedings, and the whole time Shula looked like he just got a whiff of one of Tony Siragusa's farts.
kendrickoffice Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 As a younger fan of the Bills at 19 while I still hate the Dolphins, I have to admit that I hate the *Patriots even more. I have been exposed mainly to a domination of the Phins by the Bills and it is kind of hard to truly hate a team when you have been beating up on them routinely. The *Pats on the other hand not only have been beating the crap out of the Bills lately, but doing it by cheating and having a roster filled with thugs. Going to school in Boston only intensified my hatred as their fan-based is the most arrogant yet fair-weathered group I have ever seen. Im curious to know if the Bills could sweep either the Phins or the *Pats but be swept by the other, which would be preferred?
sullim4 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Yeah I have to agree. I'm 24, having followed the Bills pretty religiously since 1993-ish. Dolphins meant more during the '90s, but the 'hate' has really faded since Shula and Marino left. The Patriots* are without question the team I hate the most... probably exacerbated by the fact that I saw the 56-10 drubbing in person last year.
GhostsOfTheRockpile Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I hate the Dolphins as much as anyone, but realignment into a DIVISION with Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Cincy would have been preferable.
Williams+Williams+Williams Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Quote of the day!!!!!!!!! The last home game I was at against Miami was a few years ago and unforgettable. On the way into the ralph at drive 5 there was two guys standing on top of a Bills custom painted red truck. One holding a 40 inch salmon, the other lighting the quarter stick of dynamite that was in the salmons mouth. They launched the salmon from the top of the truck over the crowd walking into the causeway. It blew up about 5 feet above 1000's of people walking into the game. I was 60 yards away and get hit in the face and in my bag of peanuts with salmon guts. It was dangerous and stupid but very impressive. So the rivalry is still there. Did anybody on the wall witness that?
thewildrabbit Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I still hate the phins...even if they have been stinky for a few years now! All you youngsters gotta look back at time when the Don ruled the division! The Bills never won a game during the 1970's against Shula. Finally in 1980 the bills beat the phins after 10 years of losing !!! Chuck Knox coached that team,also the fans tore the goal posts down to celebrate that victory! Moving the Bills away from the Dolphins,Jets,patriots would be a huge mistake. Mr.Ralph Wilson fought hard to keep the bills in the East and I for one am darn happy he did! I savor every win against our division foes. Even if we have a losing season it makes my year if we beat the Dolphins 2xhttp://www.stadiumwall.com/style_emoticons/default/worthy.gif
macaroni Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 The *Pats on the other hand not only have been beating the crap out of the Bills lately, but doing it by cheating and having a roster filled with thugs. Going to school in Boston only intensified my hatred as their fan-based is the most arrogant yet fair-weathered group I have ever seen. I understand where you come from ...... now take the drubbing we have been suffering at the hands of the Pat*s and suffer through it for an entire decade ..... no matter what you do ..... no matter how bad they get ..... no matter how good we get .... we lose ...... twice every year ...... year in and year out ..... no matter what ..... for ten long years. Now just how bad would you hate the Pat*s???
TheBlackMamba Posted October 23, 2008 Author Posted October 23, 2008 I still hate the phins...even if they have been stinky for a few years now! All you youngsters gotta look back at time when the Don ruled the division! The Bills never won a game during the 1970's against Shula. Finally in 1980 the bills beat the phins after 10 years of losing !!! Chuck Knox coached that team,also the fans tore the goal posts down to celebrate that victory! Moving the Bills away from the Dolphins,Jets,patriots would be a huge mistake. Mr.Ralph Wilson fought hard to keep the bills in the East and I for one am darn happy he did! I savor every win against our division foes. Even if we have a losing season it makes my year if we beat the Dolphins 2xhttp://www.stadiumwall.com/style_emoticons/default/worthy.gif I still believe most of you are missing the point. I didnt say there wasnt a rivalry. I said the rivalry isnt the same. Even some of the players admit there is nothing special about this game ANYMORE (their used to be). Stop living in the past people and start living in the IS. I would have to agree and say i HATE the Pats more than any other team.
Beerball Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 i agree for you "old timers" it's a great rivalry. Oh no you dint!
JJBuffalo Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 i was listening to the howard simon show this mourning and they suggested that when the league re-aligned in '02 we should have been in a division with the steelers, browns and bengals. The more i think about that the more i think of how awesome that would be. The bills, browns and steelers have some of the most passionate and loyal fan bases and playing them 2x a year would be great Easy travel to all the away games!!
thewildrabbit Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 And you missed my point,Although the Pats with Brady have beaten the Bills pretty badly this decade you cannot compare it to 10 full years of domination at the hands of Don Shula!Most of those 100+ wins came at the Bills expense! Moving the Bills away from the Dolphins,Jets,patriots would be a huge mistake. Mr.Ralph Wilson fought hard to keep the bills in the East and I for one am darn happy he did! I savor every win against our division foes. Even if we have a losing season it makes my year if we beat the Dolphins 2x!!
DrDawkinstein Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I still believe most of you are missing the point. I didnt say there wasnt a rivalry. I said the rivalry isnt the same. Even some of the players admit there is nothing special about this game ANYMORE (their used to be). Stop living in the past people and start living in the IS. I would have to agree and say i HATE the Pats more than any other team. but isnt the entire point of a rivalry being pissed about the past?
Ned Flanders Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Easy travel to all the away games!! Yes, and tickets in Pittsburgh and Cleveland are always plentiful...
MartyBall4Buffalo Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Yeah I have to agree. I'm 24, having followed the Bills pretty religiously since 1993-ish. Dolphins meant more during the '90s, but the 'hate' has really faded since Shula and Marino left. The Patriots* are without question the team I hate the most... probably exacerbated by the fact that I saw the 56-10 drubbing in person last year. What you said. Also 24 here. I can fully understand the feelings of older bills fans who lived through the 0 for 70's, but it's time we caught up to the present. The Dolphins are a horrible team, who we've pretty much owned recently. The Jets are running on borrowed time. In a desperation move to boost revenue sales. That team is going nowhere. At least not with the Mangina coaching them The Pats are the echelon of who we will be measured up against now and in the future. Especially if Edwards continues to progress. Edwards vs Brady will be far more marketable from a league and fan perspective, then Edwards vs Pennington/Henne/John"OH NO!" Beck. It's great anytime you beat a divisional opponent. Especially when you can start to cement your status, by climbing the rung of the AFC elite. Make the playoffs that's the goal. I won't delude myself into thinking though that the dolphins are the team we must beat. It's been sickening the way we've been the Pats stepping stool. The Bills have gone into games against the Patriots knowing they have zero chance to come out with a win. The onfield results back this up. For the first time in years, we have a legit chance to catch up to them and offer a little pay back. There's not a game in the next 4 weeks that I wan't to see the Bills win more. That I will get more joy out of. Then to see Buffalo go into Foxboro, and curb stomp the Pats.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 is it me or does the bills - dolphins rivalry not mean the same anymore??? when i was kid in the early 90's it may have been the best rivalry in the NFL. I guess the rivalry losing it's luster has to do with neither team being good for the last 9-10 years. I guess teams have to be good to make it a rivalry I REALLY hope that the Bills and Dolphins are simultaneously dominant in the AFC at some point in the next 5-10 years. I'm getting sick of the Patriots and Colts being the "big rivalry". Remember the absolutely ridiculous hype their regular season game got last season? I'd like to see ESPN countdowns leading up to a Bills-Fins game on Monday Night. And I don't care if its blasphemous to wish that the Fins would do well, this is something that I want to see.
Ned Flanders Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Stop living in the past people and start living in the IS. It depends on what the definition of the word "IS" is... Look, rivalries are about tradition and history, with a bit of demographics thrown in...It's more than rooting against the Fish, it's rooting against the whole Miami lifestyle...South Beach, art deco and stone crabs cause me just as much angst as Marino, Csonka, and Cox. I'm sorry if my "living in the past" does not live up to your standards of fandom. You're saying that the Bills-Fish rivalry is "not the same anymore," when you have no sense of what the rivalry actually "IS." I know you're the target audience for the NFL...it's proven in the ads I'm force-fed every Sunday. But like many who have already responded, I have to add, that to declare the Buffalo-Miami rivalry dead is pure nonsense.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 It depends on what the definition of the word "IS" is... Look, rivalries are about tradition and history, with a bit of demographics thrown in...It's more than rooting against the Fish, it's rooting against the whole Miami lifestyle...South Beach, art deco and stone crabs cause me just as much angst as Marino, Csonka, and Cox. I'm sorry if my "living in the past" does not live up to your standards of fandom. You're saying that the Bills-Fish rivalry is "not the same anymore," when you have no sense of what the rivalry actually "IS." I know you're the target audience for the NFL...it's proven in the ads I'm force-fed every Sunday. But like many who have already responded, I have to add, that to declare the Buffalo-Miami rivalry dead is pure nonsense. I don't think anybody called the rivalry dead, did they? just suffering. And I don't know about you, but I see an awful lot of Viagra, Cialis, and FloMax ads...those are most definitely not targeted toward us young people.
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