molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 ALBUQUERQUE - The chairwoman of an Otero County Republican women's group on Tuesday defended a letter to the editor in which she wrote, ''I believe Muslims are our enemies.''Marcia Stirman, a 56-year-old interior decorator, also called Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama ''a Muslim socialist.'' A national Islamic group expressed outrage over Stirman's letter and called on state and national Republican Party officials to repudiate the publication of ''anti-Muslim comments.'' ''Because these hate-filled remarks were made by a prominent Republican, it is incumbent on state and national GOP officials to repudiate her divisive and intolerant views,'' said Nihad Awad, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations. http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845 I hope historians of the Iraq War take stuff like this into account when trying to understand why we invaded. It wasn't about a "freedom agenda," it was about killing Muslims to a lot of the base. And no, I don't think Bush thought that, but a lot of his supporters sure did.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845 I hope historians of the Iraq War take stuff like this into account when trying to understand why we invaded. It wasn't about a "freedom agenda," it was about killing Muslims to a lot of the base. And no, I don't think Bush thought that, but a lot of his supporters sure did.
Boomer860 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845 I hope historians of the Iraq War take stuff like this into account when trying to understand why we invaded. It wasn't about a "freedom agenda," it was about killing Muslims to a lot of the base. And no, I don't think Bush thought that, but a lot of his supporters sure did. You are right . So whats wrong wiht wanting to kill radical Muslims,not all Muslims, that want to kill you Besides the media likes death and destruction its good for business.
RkFast Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845 I hope historians of the Iraq War take stuff like this into account when trying to understand why we invaded. It wasn't about a "freedom agenda," it was about killing Muslims to a lot of the base. And no, I don't think Bush thought that, but a lot of his supporters sure did. Do you have ANY idea into how much work and effort goes into making sure civilian, innocent Iraqis are NOT harmed during military operations? And read up on CAIR, who they are and who funds them before using THAT group as a source, please.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10783845 I hope historians of the Iraq War take stuff like this into account when trying to understand why we invaded. It wasn't about a "freedom agenda," it was about killing Muslims to a lot of the base. And no, I don't think Bush thought that, but a lot of his supporters sure did. Some people in this country just drive me insane. Denouncing Barack for being a Muslim is a good way to simultaneously show that you are both ignorant and intolerant. It proves you know nothing about the candidate and that you think a person being Muslim is a bad thing, as if it would be wrong to vote a person of Muslim or Arab descent to be president.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 as if it would be wrong to vote a person of Muslim or Arab descent to be president. I think it would be. Not too many Arabs/Muslims can separate religion from civics, or so it seems. Note: I don't think Obama's a Muslim. I think he's horribly misguided about talking to Islamic extremists, but not a Muslim.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 You are right . So whats wrong wiht wanting to kill radical Muslims,not all Muslims, that want to kill you Besides the media likes death and destruction its good for business. So we should kill all radical Muslims? How about radical Christians who parade around saying we should nuke the entire Middle East and rid the world of the heathen scum? Should we find and kill all of them too?
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 So we should kill all radical Muslims? How about radical Christians who parade around saying we should nuke the entire Middle East and rid the world of the heathen scum? Should we find and kill all of them too? Apples and oranges. With a few exceptions, there aren't too many radical Christians willing to blow themselves up. There's entire communities of young Muslims that would love to kill innocents in the name of Allah.
Boomer860 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Some people in this country just drive me insane. Denouncing Barack for being a Muslim is a good way to simultaneously show that you are both ignorant and intolerant. It proves you know nothing about the candidate and that you think a person being Muslim is a bad thing, as if it would be wrong to vote a person of Muslim or Arab descent to be president. Barack is a fraud from the back rooms of Chicago being a Muslim or not has nothing to do with it.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I think it would be. Not too many Arabs/Muslims can separate religion from civics, or so it seems. That may be true in the Muslim world, but I'm sure it would be a different case if you're dealing with an American born person of Muslim descent. Your behavior is determined by the culture you grew up with, not the ethnicity you are. Muslims do not have a genetic quality which makes them more religiously zealous.
molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Posted October 23, 2008 Do you have ANY idea into how much work and effort goes into making sure civilian, innocent Iraqis are NOT harmed during military operations? And read up on CAIR, who they are and who funds them before using THAT group as a source, please. I'm sure the military does a great job helping Iraqis, that wasn't my point. Its about why some people wanted us to invade.
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 That may be true in the Muslim world, but I'm sure it would be a different case if you're dealing with an American born person of Muslim descent. Your behavior is determined by the culture you grew up with, not the ethnicity you are. Muslims do not have a genetic quality which makes them more religiously zealous. Exactly. But if you think that the individuals of Arab/Muslim descent who live in Detroit or Lackawanna aren't radicalized, you're sadly mistaken.
Boomer860 Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 So we should kill all radical Muslims? How about radical Christians who parade around saying we should nuke the entire Middle East and rid the world of the heathen scum? Should we find and kill all of them too? Then what would you do to people that want to kill you.Maybe radical Christians parade around but the dont tie bombs to themselves women and childred Where are these radical Christians you speak of and what have they done. Like I say what would you do with someone that wants to kill you . Sounds to me like you are a radical Muslim sympathizer
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Exactly. But if you think that the individuals of Arab/Muslim descent who live in Detroit or Lackawanna aren't radicalized, you're sadly mistaken. Those are two isolated and extreme cases. Of course I wouldn't want THOSE people to be President. But I also wouldn't want a Klan or Black Panthers member to be President. There are extreme examples in every race. My point was that it's wrong for this person the OP brought up to use the word "Muslim" as if it's some racial slur and that we should be afraid of them.
molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Posted October 23, 2008 Apples and oranges. With a few exceptions, there aren't too many radical Christians willing to blow themselves up. There's entire communities of young Muslims that would love to kill innocents in the name of Allah. There's entire communities of christians that would love to kill innocents in the name of jesus
The Big Cat Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 I think it would be. Not too many Arabs/Muslims can separate religion from civics, or so it seems. Note: I don't think Obama's a Muslim. I think he's horribly misguided about talking to Islamic extremists, but not a Muslim. Uuuuuuh...MUSLIMS are the ones that have a problem separating religion from civics? Really? Not any of the "Christian" conservative politicans already in office?
The Big Cat Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Then what would you do to people that want to kill you.Maybe radical Christians parade around but the dont tie bombs to themselves women and childred Where are these radical Christians you speak of and what have they done.Like I say what would you do with someone that wants to kill you . Sounds to me like you are a radical Muslim sympathizer Rent the documentary Jesus Camp. They certainly DO exist. In America!
molson_golden2002 Posted October 23, 2008 Author Posted October 23, 2008 Then what would you do to people that want to kill you.Maybe radical Christians parade around but the dont tie bombs to themselves women and childred Where are these radical Christians you speak of and what have they done.Like I say what would you do with someone that wants to kill you . Sounds to me like you are a radical Muslim sympathizer No, they call on the military to attack other countries.
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 Then what would you do to people that want to kill you.Maybe radical Christians parade around but the dont tie bombs to themselves women and childred Where are these radical Christians you speak of and what have they done.Like I say what would you do with someone that wants to kill you . Sounds to me like you are a radical Muslim sympathizer So you're one of those people huh? Joe McCarthy reincarnated...You take every statement that doesn't say "freedom ain't free" or "we have to protect ourselves and our families against the evil-doers" and you associate it with sympathizing with the enemy. Those tactics worked in the 50's but I like to believe that maybe people are most rational these days. I'd like to see an America where folks don't use fear as a tactic to tear people down.
erynthered Posted October 23, 2008 Posted October 23, 2008 There's entire communities of christians that would love to kill innocents in the name of jesus BLASFUUUUUUMAY!! The "J" in Jesus should be capitalized, DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Seriously though...
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