Fan in San Diego Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 It would be great if TE was at the point to read the def. and audible a play to counteract the def. formation. I'm not sure if he has reached that point yet, at the beginning of the season Turk said that TE was going to call audibles. Anyone see this mentioned in the news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GripnRip Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Some plays have the built in option for TE to audible into different plays. The TD to Evans this week was a run to Marshawn that TE changed at the line because Evans was single covered. While he certainly doesn't have open reign to make changes at the line(at least not yet, but if any kid has the brain for it, it appears Trent might), it seems the offense has a lot of built in wrinkles that give him the ability to use his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 It would be great if TE was at the point to read the def. and audible a play to counteract the def. formation. I'm not sure if he has reached that point yet, at the beginning of the season Turk said that TE was going to call audibles. Anyone see this mentioned in the news? Enough with the Kelly worship. Edwards CANNOT be like Kelly if we want to win a super bowl. He needs to be BETTER. WHY? Because Edwards isn't likely to ever be surrounded with the all-pros Kelly played with. Edwards is going to have to do what Kelly could not do and he will have to do it with a lesser team. If Kelly went 0-4 with the offense he had, then he certainly wouldn't come out with a win playing on a lesser team, even if he had ten kicks at the can. Yeah, Kelly was such a master at audibles that he went 0-4 in superbowls. Kelly couldn't have asked for a stronger supporting cast, fact is, he simply wasn't a QB capable of winning super bowls. Kelly wasn't good enough, Edwards needs to go to a level beyond Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Enough with the Kelly worship. Edwards CANNOT be like Kelly if we want to win a super bowl. He needs to be BETTER. WHY? Because Edwards isn't likely to ever be surrounded with the all-pros Kelly played with. Edwards is going to have to do what Kelly could not do and he will have to do it with a lesser team. If Kelly went 0-4 with the offense he had, then he certainly wouldn't come out with a win playing on a lesser team, even if he had ten kicks at the can. Yeah, Kelly was such a master at audibles that he went 0-4 in superbowls. Kelly couldn't have asked for a stronger supporting cast, fact is, he simply wasn't a QB capable of winning super bowls. Kelly wasn't good enough, Edwards needs to go to a level beyond Kelly. troll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 troll moron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jarthur31 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 It would be great if TE was at the point to read the def. and audible a play to counteract the def. formation. I'm not sure if he has reached that point yet, at the beginning of the season Turk said that TE was going to call audibles. Anyone see this mentioned in the news? He has done this numerous times; even in the very 1st game. The latest example was the Evans TD. He said in the post game that it was a run by design but he audibled when he noticed the Lee was singled up on the corner. Even in shortage scenarios, he's changed the call to a pass when he gets a matchup he likes. You'll notice this more when both RB's are in on the same play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 moron Do you even know what a troll is? It just means you are just trying to make people angry. And posting something like that around here about Kelly is very likely to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steely Dan Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Jan. 17, 2008 - 9:34 a.m. ET New Bills offensive coordinator Turk Schonert plans to use more spread formations and let Trent Edwards audible at the line of scrimmage. The Bills wanted to do these things last year, but Edwards was a rookie. Now, he'll have a full offseason to prepare as a starter. If the Bills are to use a spread offense, they'll need an outside complement to Lee Evans. Roscoe Parrish and Josh Reed would do just fine in the slots. Source: Rochester Democrat and Chronicle Linkage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Enough with the Kelly worship. Edwards CANNOT be like Kelly if we want to win a super bowl. He needs to be BETTER. WHY? Because Edwards isn't likely to ever be surrounded with the all-pros Kelly played with. Edwards is going to have to do what Kelly could not do and he will have to do it with a lesser team. If Kelly went 0-4 with the offense he had, then he certainly wouldn't come out with a win playing on a lesser team, even if he had ten kicks at the can. Yeah, Kelly was such a master at audibles that he went 0-4 in superbowls. Kelly couldn't have asked for a stronger supporting cast, fact is, he simply wasn't a QB capable of winning super bowls. Kelly wasn't good enough, Edwards needs to go to a level beyond Kelly. By your rational Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson would all be better then Jim Kelly . You should think before you type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 By your rational Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson would all be better then Jim Kelly . You should think before you type. Yes. In the most important way, they were all better than Jim Kelly. Jim Kelly was like the baseball team built for a 162 game season, not 5 or 7 games series. Jim Kelly was great... But, serioulsy flawed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
34-78-83 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Enough with the Kelly worship. Edwards CANNOT be like Kelly if we want to win a super bowl. He needs to be BETTER. WHY? Because Edwards isn't likely to ever be surrounded with the all-pros Kelly played with. Edwards is going to have to do what Kelly could not do and he will have to do it with a lesser team. If Kelly went 0-4 with the offense he had, then he certainly wouldn't come out with a win playing on a lesser team, even if he had ten kicks at the can. Yeah, Kelly was such a master at audibles that he went 0-4 in superbowls. Kelly couldn't have asked for a stronger supporting cast, fact is, he simply wasn't a QB capable of winning super bowls. Kelly wasn't good enough, Edwards needs to go to a level beyond Kelly. Riiiiigght... He was capable of winning championship games 51-3 or on the road against a strong division foe, but wasn't capable of winning a superbowl. What superior logic. Because on the field, Superbowls are sooooo much different than other playoff games Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Enough with the Kelly worship. Edwards CANNOT be like Kelly if we want to win a super bowl. He needs to be BETTER. WHY? Because Edwards isn't likely to ever be surrounded with the all-pros Kelly played with. Edwards is going to have to do what Kelly could not do and he will have to do it with a lesser team. If Kelly went 0-4 with the offense he had, then he certainly wouldn't come out with a win playing on a lesser team, even if he had ten kicks at the can. Yeah, Kelly was such a master at audibles that he went 0-4 in superbowls. Kelly couldn't have asked for a stronger supporting cast, fact is, he simply wasn't a QB capable of winning super bowls. Kelly wasn't good enough, Edwards needs to go to a level beyond Kelly. Without Norwood's flub, Kelly wins a Super Bowl. As for the Dallas Super Bowls, is it not just a possibility that the Cowboys were a more talented team? Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek and a very solid O-line plus guys like Haley, Norton, Woodson and Maryland on D? No? Just wondering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beerball Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Some plays have the built in option for TE to audible into different plays. The TD to Evans this week was a run to Marshawn that TE changed at the line because Evans was single covered. While he certainly doesn't have open reign to make changes at the line(at least not yet, but if any kid has the brain for it, it appears Trent might), it seems the offense has a lot of built in wrinkles that give him the ability to use his head. Admitted nitpicking....was the throw to Evans an audible? Did Edwards change out of the play alerting the entire team, or was it more of an 'automatic'? Edwards comes to the line, looks over the defense, sees Evans 1 on 1 and tosses him the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 It would be great if TE was at the point to read the def. and audible a play to counteract the def. formation. I'm not sure if he has reached that point yet, at the beginning of the season Turk said that TE was going to call audibles. Anyone see this mentioned in the news? Rest assured that Edwards will reach the audible phase and soon thereafter ascend to a god-like being. Bill Walsh will rise from the dead to be GM of the 49ers and will sign Trent to a free agent deal in a couple years prompting Bills fans to declare that Walsh is the devil while those on the west coast worship Walsh as God and Trent as Christ. Jewish fans in NY will convert to Christianity after witnessing Trent (Christ) walk the earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Do you even know what a troll is? It just means you are just trying to make people angry. And posting something like that around here about Kelly is very likely to do that. Yeah that makes a lot of sense, we should all rewrite reality to suit Jim Kelly and the legend some people need to cling to. Truth is he was on a loaded team and went 0-4. No way on earth should we be seeking that now. We don't have Kent Hall , Thurman thomas, Andre Read, James Lofton, Howard Ballard, Jim Ritcher, Don Beebe etc. If Trent Edwards emulates Kelly there is zero chance of winning it all. Does this start to make sense to you now? We cannot win it with a clone of Kelly. He couldn't win it with a team full of all pros. Wake up, all of you, wake up from your Kelly worship. Calling someone a troll WILL NOT change fact and reality. That is nothing more than running from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 By your rational Mark Rypien, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson would all be better then Jim Kelly . You should think before you type. As far as playing in the super bowl they were better. They won it with inferior offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkenirishmann Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Riiiiigght... He was capable of winning championship games 51-3 or on the road against a strong division foe, but wasn't capable of winning a superbowl. What superior logic. Because on the field, Superbowls are sooooo much different than other playoff games Right? C'mon JB....don't feed the trolls. You know better then that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Quint Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 We don't have Kent Hall , Thurman thomas, Andre Read, James Lofton, Howard Ball, Jim Ritcher, Don Beebe etc. Who are those guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Without Norwood's flub, Kelly wins a Super Bowl. As for the Dallas Super Bowls, is it not just a possibility that the Cowboys were a more talented team? Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Jay Novacek and a very solid O-line plus guys like Haley, Norton, Woodson and Maryland on D? No? Just wondering. It was primarily Norwoods fault? What is the conversion % of 47 yard FGs in the NFL? That is no chip shot. It shouldn't have come down to a 47 yard FG. The Tuna and Billicheck(sp) beat the Bills with a lesser team. They held the Bills to 19 points. So how many points would Kelly have put up without a team loaded with all pros? 9 or 10 points maybe? Not much that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyPage Posted October 23, 2008 Share Posted October 23, 2008 Who are those guys? Howard Ballard I meant, I was typing too fast. As far as the misspelling of Reed and Hull no big deal, that's no big deal at all, it is not relevant to the conversation in any way other than nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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