In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 as one might expect, there are extreme divisive forces within the McCain campaign. The New York Times Magazine will reveal some of the inner contention on Sunday... Having interviewed several of the Senator's chief aides, Draper details the process by which McCain ultimately chose his running mate (New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg was surprisingly high on the list). And the decision may have been even more impulsive than initially thought. Gov. Sarah Palin, who had never been on the VP shortlist, was advanced at the last minute by Schmidt and Rick Davis, and was picked after a less-than-hour-long chat in with McCain at his ranch in Arizona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The NYT hates republicans. The sky is blue. Water is wet. How many years (months?) before the NYT goes belly up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 McCain's campaign has been terrible-all tactics with no strategy. One day it's "Obama the celebrity" then it's the Gas Tax Holiday then it's "Obama's Tire Gauge" then it's Sarah Palin then it's "lipstick on a pig" then it's Bill Ayers then it's ACORN then it's "Joe the Plumber" and now it's "Obama the Socialist". Is it any surprise that a plurality of McCain supporters say they're only voting for him because he's the lesser of two evils? He should ask Kerry how well the "Anyone but Bush" strategy worked in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 The NYT hates republicans. The sky is blue. Water is wet. How many years (months?) before the NYT goes belly up? Well, considering it has been going strong for 157 years, I'd say any week or month now it will go belly up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 Well, considering it has been going strong for 157 years, I'd say any week or month now it will go belly up. The internet'll kill them, because the Times has shown they have difficulty dealing with changing media markets... (Yes, that was sarcasm.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 22, 2008 Share Posted October 22, 2008 (Yes, that was sarcasm.) It was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 24, 2008 Author Share Posted October 24, 2008 here's the Draper article Scene by scene, McCain failed to deliver the performance that had been promised. Of course, this was no mere movie. America was in crisis. Perhaps with the Bush theory in mind, Steve Schmidt had advised McCain to “go in all the way” on the financial crisis so as to reveal his candidate’s true character. But given a chance to show what kind of president he might be, McCain came off more like a stymied bystander than a leader who could make a difference. Judging by the polls, the McCain campaign has yet to recover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, considering it has been going strong for 157 years, I'd say any week or month now it will go belly up. Well, things are looking quite gloomy for the Old Gray Lady. Steep drop in third-quarter profits...net profit fell by 51.4 percent in the third quarter...overall advertising revenue fell by 14.4 percent during the quarter...Standard & Poors said it was lowering the Times's credit rating to "BB-," or junk status...Moody's Investors Service said it was placing it on review for possible downgrade... print advertising revenue fell by 18.5 percent in the third quarter...indicated in its statement that it may cut its dividend... looking at writing down the value of assets in its New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, by 100 million dollars to 150 million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 In other news... NYT Formally Endorses Obama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer860 Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 In other news... NYT Formally Endorses Obama Now there is a suprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 In other news... NYT Formally Endorses Obama NYT may soon be rated JUNK http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1003877422 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, things are looking quite gloomy for the Old Gray Lady. Steep drop in third-quarter profits...net profit fell by 51.4 percent in the third quarter...overall advertising revenue fell by 14.4 percent during the quarter...Standard & Poors said it was lowering the Times's credit rating to "BB-," or junk status...Moody's Investors Service said it was placing it on review for possible downgrade... print advertising revenue fell by 18.5 percent in the third quarter...indicated in its statement that it may cut its dividend... looking at writing down the value of assets in its New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, by 100 million dollars to 150 million dollars. Well most newspapers are seeing this kind of thing, seeing as almost everybody gets their news from television and internet these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Well, things are looking quite gloomy for the Old Gray Lady. Steep drop in third-quarter profits...net profit fell by 51.4 percent in the third quarter...overall advertising revenue fell by 14.4 percent during the quarter...Standard & Poors said it was lowering the Times's credit rating to "BB-," or junk status...Moody's Investors Service said it was placing it on review for possible downgrade... print advertising revenue fell by 18.5 percent in the third quarter...indicated in its statement that it may cut its dividend... looking at writing down the value of assets in its New England Media Group, which includes the Boston Globe, by 100 million dollars to 150 million dollars. You, being a journalist, know full well the problems that major newspapers are facing because of the internet. Do you believe for one second that the New York Times is going to eventually fail, go out of business, or even lose the mantle of "the newspaper of record"? whether you like its left slant or not? I surely would not bet against the New York Times enduring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 You, being a journalist, know full well the problems that major newspapers are facing because of the internet. Do you believe for one second that the New York Times is going to eventually fail, go out of business, or even lose the mantle of "the newspaper of record"? whether you like its left slant or not? I surely would not bet against the New York Times enduring. I agree with your post, for sure. But the affect of these grave financial problems will be negative change in the news industry. That is, in large part, a major part of the shift from journalism to entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 You, being a journalist, know full well the problems that major newspapers are facing because of the internet. Do you believe for one second that the New York Times is going to eventually fail, go out of business, or even lose the mantle of "the newspaper of record"? whether you like its left slant or not? I surely would not bet against the New York Times enduring. The New York Times has become a punchline, just like NBC News. They're a "news" organization that has zero credibility because of their blatant bias towards Obama. They'd much rather trash Cindy McCain than report on Obama's cokehead past or Edwards' affair while running for the Presidency. You should have known how far they've fallen when they were getting scooped by the National Enquirer because they refused to tarnish the democrats by simply not doing their job of reporting the news. There's a good reason profits have fallen 51.4 percent. Americans aren't much into propaganda machines and if they are, they'd probably much rather go to a radical liberal blog for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 The New York Times has become a punchline, just like NBC News. They're a "news" organization that has zero credibility because of their blatant bias towards Obama. They'd much rather trash Cindy McCain than report on Obama's cokehead past or Edwards' affair while running for the Presidency. You should have known how far they've fallen when they were getting scooped by the National Enquirer because they refused to tarnish the democrats by simply not doing their job of reporting the news. There's a good reason profits have fallen 51.4 percent. Americans aren't much into propaganda machines and if they are, they'd probably much rather go to a radical liberal blog for that. Then who DOES have credibility? You guys are so quick to dismiss any publication that doesn't share your view, I'd like to know who it is that provides the honest, non-leaning reports you'd classify as "credible." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Then who DOES have credibility? You guys are so quick to dismiss any publication that doesn't share your view, I'd like to know who it is that provides the honest, non-leaning reports you'd classify as "credible." Hannity's America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 24, 2008 Share Posted October 24, 2008 Interesting, I look forward to reading it (while celebrating a Bills win, of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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