Johnny Coli Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 And he had no help making that decision. Right. Got it. I think we can all agree that there were multiple people complicit in fabricating the case to blunder into an unnecessary war. But the indisputable fact is Bush, as the Commander in Chief, is the only person on the planet that can give the OK for the United States Armed Forces to go to war.
Johnny Coli Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Here is the part of the speech that snippet is taken from: Kind of takes the sting out of the argument when you use the whole quote, doesn't it?
GG Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 I think we can all agree that there were multiple people complicit in fabricating the case to blunder into an unnecessary war. But the indisputable fact is Bush, as the Commander in Chief, is the only person on the planet that can give the OK for the United States Armed Forces to go to war. Don't let the overwhelming Congressional vote approving military action in Iraq get in the way of your version of history.
erynthered Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Kind of takes the sting out of the argument when you use the whole quote, doesn't it? Yeah especially when says shiit like this in that snippet: "I'll give a middle-class tax cut to 95% of all workers."
Kelly the Dog Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Don't let the overwhelming Congressional vote approving military action in Iraq get in the way of your version of history. Doesnt change the fact that if George Bush didnt want to do it, it wouldnt have happened. He went out and lobbied for that vote. Begged, according to some.
GG Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Doesnt change the fact that if George Bush didnt want to do it, it wouldnt have happened. He went out and lobbied for that vote. Begged, according to some. Not disputing that fact, just the assertion that this was a unilateral action by Bush, where Congress had absolutely no input. IIRC, the vote wasn't even close.
Johnny Coli Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Don't let the overwhelming Congressional vote approving military action in Iraq get in the way of your version of history. Don't let the overwhelming period of hyper-nationalism and uber-patriotism stoked by the White House and their media flunkies, not to mention the fabricated "evidence" used to prod the vote get in your way of absolving Bush.
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Not disputing that fact, just the assertion that this was a unilateral action by Bush, where Congress had absolutely no input. IIRC, the vote wasn't even close. Maybe they voted that way because of people like John McCain suggesting that the 2001 anthrax attacks came from Iraq.
molson_golden2002 Posted October 22, 2008 Author Posted October 22, 2008 Doesnt change the fact that if George Bush didnt want to do it, it wouldnt have happened. He went out and lobbied for that vote. Begged, according to some. He did more than that. He, and the rest of the right wing, waged a full fledged terror campaign to get us in that war. "Saddam, 9-11, Saddam, 9-11," was basically the meat on all his speeches. We were all going to die if Sddam was not taken out. It was a full fledge lynch mob effort with the right wing nuts breathing fire and the media marching in lock step. It was the right wing cause of the day on steroids.
GG Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 Don't let the overwhelming period of hyper-nationalism and uber-patriotism stoked by the White House and their media flunkies, not to mention the fabricated "evidence" used to prod the vote get in your way of absolving Bush. Maybe you can remind me again what is the job of elected officials to Congress? I'm trying to find the "rubber stamp" clause in the Constitution. Never mind that the fabrication stories have been fabricated in revisionist history accounts. But it does make your story look more convincing when you tie it with an image of Dick Cheney stalking Congress with his shotgun.
Johnny Coli Posted October 22, 2008 Posted October 22, 2008 But it does make your story look more convincing when you tie it with an image of Dick Cheney stalking Congress with his shotgun. It's all true. No doubt his ghost will haunt those halls for a long, long time. His story and Foley's will be used to scare the incoming congressional pages.
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