Tortured Soul Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Nothing official, but it looked to be just a cramp Thanks, bills44.
Coach Tuesday Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 One thing I'll say about Trent: he always seems to be dialed in. I don't know how else to say it, but it's remarkable.
bills44 Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Also, I thought that the coverage units had their best day of the year. They did a great job on Sproles.
colin Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 i will say, i ride bill in nyc for being on peters jock, but i'll give peters on a pat on his giant filthy azz for being very strong today. i really think aaron has been hurt all year and he's not getting any explosion, so we are smart to sit him till he is good. i see glimmers in our run game, but we need to really figure it out. oh, this game showed how much better trent is than jp. the difference between us this week and our last game is shocking. every one who ever chided me for saying trent was better than jp last season is a gutless scumbag who sniffs diapers and smells like ammonia filled pee and cabbage. ok, not really, but trent really is the best qb four our team.
StupidNation Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Jackson does look and play better than Lynch. It's nice to look forward to 3-5 yard gains on first down instead of Lynch going for home-runs with his side-stepping. Lynch leads the NFL (before this game) with the most 10+ yard plays, but that also means he is stuffed trying to side-step his way for a home-run when a single or double works. Love Lynch's spirit, but I don't think he is going to be the back we need long-term unless he stops side-stepping and just go for yards up the field instead of thinking long-ball. Ryan Howard type runners look great, but cause huge problems. There is no way in Hell that we only score 13 pts in the first half with Trent's performance with Jackson starting. Not saying Lynch isn't fixable, but he has to stop that side-step crap. This isn't college and it doesn't work anymore unless you are in open-field.
The Dean Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 i will say, i ride bill in nyc for being on peters jock, but i'll give peters on a pat on his giant filthy azz for being very strong today. i really think aaron has been hurt all year and he's not getting any explosion, so we are smart to sit him till he is good. i see glimmers in our run game, but we need to really figure it out. oh, this game showed how much better trent is than jp. the difference between us this week and our last game is shocking. every one who ever chided me for saying trent was better than jp last season is a gutless scumbag who sniffs diapers and smells like ammonia filled pee and cabbage. ok, not really, but trent really is the best qb four our team. Trent had a GREAT game today, and so did the O line. And I agree he is the better QB for this team With that said, i don't know why anyone would bring up JP today, as he didn't play and rarely (if ever) had this kind of protection. Can't we just enjoy the great game by TE without bashing JP? I have to say that rings of a "told you so" post, where it has no value.
JDG Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I thought it was very interesting how many carries Fred Jackson got late in the game. Normally you are going to you best back in crunch time and when you need to run out the clock. Clearly the coaches have a ton of faith in Fred Jackson at this point - perhaps even moreso than Marshawn Lynch. It also ended up not mattering, but Marshawn Lynch *still* needs to learn how to stay inbounds when we are running out the clock. This has been a significant weakness in Lynch's game from Day 1, IMHO. With that being said, on the 3rd and 1, I wanted to Bills to through the ball in this particular game in the particular situation. Failing that, I absolutely agree that you gotta give the ball to Lynch to try and get the super-tough yard. He's got that "Beast Mode" for a reason... JDG
colin Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Trent had a GREAT game today, and so did the O line. And I agree he is the better QB for this team With that said, i don't know why anyone would bring up JP today, as he didn't play and rarely (if ever) had this kind of protection. Can't we just enjoy the great game by TE without bashing JP? I have to say that rings of a "told you so" post, where it has no value. nope. jp was running the team last game, and this game it is trent, so the comparison is valid and topical.
The Dean Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 3. So much for all of the draftniks that said Leodis Mckelvin was ready to "step on the field from day 1." That's the second swipe at McKelvin in this thread. Other than the one TD pass, where he was clearly beaten, I can't find any major flaws in his game today. Can you tell me where he disappointed you? Here's the play-by-play, if you need help: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?g...p;override=true
Captain Quint Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Can't we just enjoy the great game by TE without bashing JP? Lol... Thats true, but at the same time, this win never would have happened with JP in there. I don't know anyone who could contest that. There is a reason why he is a backup and why he will continue to be a backup.
colin Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 leodis had a good rookie trial by fire game. effed up a bit, but the experience will help him in the long run. so was youboty down? dang, number 1 o in the nfl, and we were down our first and 3rd CBs, best pass rusher, and still played very well? noice
Bill from NYC Posted October 19, 2008 Author Posted October 19, 2008 That's the second swipe at McKelvin in this thread. Other than the one TD pass, where he was clearly beaten, I can't find any major flaws in his game today. Can you tell me where he disappointed you? Here's the play-by-play, if you need help: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?g...p;override=true If you mean me, I hardly consider what I said to be taking a "swipe" at McKelvin. Rookie corners are going to make more mistakes than seasoned vets. This is a given and I understand, but it does little for my blood pressure.
nucci Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 That's the second swipe at McKelvin in this thread. Other than the one TD pass, where he was clearly beaten, I can't find any major flaws in his game today. Can you tell me where he disappointed you? Here's the play-by-play, if you need help: http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/playbyplay?g...p;override=true Just typical Buffalo fans looking for anything negative in a big win. Should be used to it now , Deano.
Heels20X6 Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I thought it was very interesting how many carries Fred Jackson got late in the game. Normally you are going to you best back in crunch time and when you need to run out the clock. Clearly the coaches have a ton of faith in Fred Jackson at this point - perhaps even moreso than Marshawn Lynch. It also ended up not mattering, but Marshawn Lynch *still* needs to learn how to stay inbounds when we are running out the clock. This has been a significant weakness in Lynch's game from Day 1, IMHO. With that being said, on the 3rd and 1, I wanted to Bills to through the ball in this particular game in the particular situation. Failing that, I absolutely agree that you gotta give the ball to Lynch to try and get the super-tough yard. He's got that "Beast Mode" for a reason... JDG Marshawn apparently rolled his ankle in the drive previous and they went with Jackson as a precautionary measure and because he is a very capable back himself. As for the "run out of bounds", the clock kept moving so no harm no foul. Or are we now onto running Marshawn out of town now? Can't we as fans just be f#cking happy that we're 5 and 1 and not be b!tching about a guy who our own coach says "has the most heart he's ever seen in a player"? F#CK.
The Dean Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 If you mean me, I hardly consider what I said to be taking a "swipe" at McKelvin. Rookie corners are going to make more mistakes than seasoned vets. This is a given and I understand, but it does little for my blood pressure. You took the first, not the second. McKelvin got badly burnt once, from what I saw/read. His coverage on the second TD was quite good, actually. I took away some confidence in him, today. As you said, rookie CBs tend to make mistakes. As he played all game, against a good QB, and didn't get more chewed up, tells me something positive about his overall play, today. Of course, I want McGee to return ASAP.
Orton's Arm Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 5. That was a solid performance by the O. Trent inspires confidence like no other Bills qb since JK. I looked up the career stats for Kelly and for Trent. Kelly averaged 7.4 yards per pass attempt, and had a 1.4-to-1 TD-INT ratio. This season, Trent Edwards is averaging 7.8 yards per pass attempt, and has a 2-to-1 TD-INT ratio. Granted, we're just talking about a five game stretch here. But based on the numbers Edwards has put up in those five games, and on how he's looked while doing it, he clearly has the potential to seriously challenge Kelly's status as the best Bills' QB ever.
MRW Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 nope. jp was running the team last game, and this game it is trent, so the comparison is valid and topical. Trent also got support from the D today. Look, I'd agree with you that Edwards instills confidence in a way that JP does not just now. But who out there is clamoring for JP to be starting? The constant digs at JP after EVERY game whether he plays or not are extremely tiresome.
Heels20X6 Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 I looked up the career stats for Kelly and for Trent. Kelly averaged 7.4 yards per pass attempt, and had a 1.4-to-1 TD-INT ratio. This season, Trent Edwards is averaging 7.8 yards per pass attempt, and has a 2-to-1 TD-INT ratio. Granted, we're just talking about a five game stretch here. But based on the numbers Edwards has put up in those five games, and on how he's looked while doing it, he clearly has the potential to seriously challenge Kelly's status as the best Bills' QB ever. I like it. Trent RULES. It's about freakin' time this franchise had a franchise QB!
The Dean Posted October 19, 2008 Posted October 19, 2008 Trent also got support from the D today. Look, I'd agree with you that Edwards instills confidence in a way that JP does not just now. But who out there is clamoring for JP to be starting? The constant digs at JP after EVERY game whether he plays or not are extremely tiresome. Pretty much my point, MRW. Trent started against Arizona. Trent was knocked out due to terrible O line play (and a poor decision to take the hit). That bad line play continued all game, yet the offense with JP (who played the rest of the game) managed to score 17 points. That was enough to win TODAY, against a much better offense. The O line and the D stunk...THAT'S why the Bills lost the last game. But, can't we enjoy a win, and a great performance by most of the Bills units, without finding a way to drag JP into the conversation?
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