yall Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I believe that he endorsed Obama simply because he doesn't believe in McCain and especially Palin. Yeah - if you believe his words you might be tricked into thinking that. What everyone really knows is that Powell is the final cog in the "get-a-secret-muslim-into-the-white-house" plan. Look at all of the players and their ties to Asia? Obama? Educated in Asia. McCain? Jailed in Asia. Powell? Fought in Asia. Palin? Can see Asia. LittleBigPlanet? Developed for a console made in Asia, and stopped by muslims. It all adds up!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Yeah - if you believe his words you might be tricked into thinking that. What everyone really knows is that Powell is the final cog in the "get-a-secret-muslim-into-the-white-house" plan. Look at all of the players and their ties to Asia? Obama? Educated in Asia. McCain? Jailed in Asia. Powell? Fought in Asia. Palin? Can see Asia. LittleBigPlanet? Developed for a console made in Asia, and stopped by muslims. It all adds up!!!! I believed his words because there is nothing out there to say that he has some sort of agenda. Until that happens, I will by his words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I believed his words because there is nothing out there to say that he has some sort of agenda. Until that happens, I will by his words. Apparently I really need to start using the "/sarcasm" at the end of my posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RkFast Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Sorry, I don't give Bush ANY consideration. He was all about invading Iraq, NO MATTER WHAT! He had his own agenda, along with Cheney and Rice. Powell was not an insider and just did what he was told. WOW!!! An administration had an "agenda"???!!!????!!! WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE OVER THIS???????????????????????????????????????????????/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Coli Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Not to be cynical but let's get back to the reality of this endorsement. Either he's choosing his race over his country OR he no longer believes in the conservative values he's held for 50 years because Barack Obama is a "transformational" candidate. Both reasons are highly suspect. Kind of like that WMD thing. What's weird is that the endorsement of the guy who sold the Iraq War to America has suddenly made the anti-Iraq War messiah so damn humble. Or...he did precisely what people always B word about the voter not doing. He looked at both candidates, weighed the pros and cons of both, weighed that with what he believes in, and weighed that with which one he thinks will ultimately be better for the country regardless of his party affiliation. Then, unlike many, he went on Meet The Press and articulately stated how he reached that opinion without stretching the truth to sway anyone else or wrap it in inflammatory rhetoric. What a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1billsfan Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 I believed his words because there is nothing out there to say that he has some sort of agenda. Until that happens, I will by his words. Powell is a moderate conservative, highly decorated former General who's also a black man who grew up during the tumultuous civil rights movement and probably never thought this day would ever come during his lifetime. I can't fault him for supporting Obama, but he's being less than honest when saying Obama's race didn't have anything to do with his endorsement. Don't ever "buy" what a politician is saying. They are ALL full of crap and responsible for the hole we've dug ourselves. Powell is someone who has a lot of explaining to do in regards to why he sold America's going to war with Iraq. This love of Powell by the democrats is ridiculous considering the anti-war movement was the main reason Obama became the democratic nominee for President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Powell is a moderate conservative, highly decorated former General who's also a black man who grew up during the tumultuous civil rights movement and probably never thought this day would ever come during his lifetime. I can't fault him for supporting Obama, but he's being less than honest when saying Obama's race didn't have anything to do with his endorsement. Don't ever "buy" what a politician is saying. They are ALL full of crap and responsible for the hole we've dug ourselves. Powell is someone who has a lot of explaining to do in regards to why he sold America's going to war with Iraq. This love of Powell by the democrats is ridiculous considering the anti-war movement was the main reason Obama became the democratic nominee for President. When trying to add race into this. I'll take his endorsement as what I heard on CSPAN from a black woman. Do not believe that every back person is voting for Obama simply because he is black. There are issues involved. That woman was still listed as undecided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Well he did say it , so obviously race must have influenced his decision. Just like James Baker said at the same event: "I think electing the first African-American president would send a powerful message not just abroad but in this country as well." But Baker is still voting republican. Does that make him racist? Hmmm... http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200...15/1403219.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer860 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Sorry, I don't give Bush ANY consideration. He was all about invading Iraq, NO MATTER WHAT! He had his own agenda, along with Cheney and Rice. Powell was not an insider and just did what he was told. He sure did , he didnt have to take the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Powell is a moderate conservative, highly decorated former General who's also a black man who grew up during the tumultuous civil rights movement and probably never thought this day would ever come during his lifetime. I can't fault him for supporting Obama, but he's being less than honest when saying Obama's race didn't have anything to do with his endorsement. Don't ever "buy" what a politician is saying. They are ALL full of crap and responsible for the hole we've dug ourselves. Powell is someone who has a lot of explaining to do in regards to why he sold America's going to war with Iraq. This love of Powell by the democrats is ridiculous considering the anti-war movement was the main reason Obama became the democratic nominee for President. 1 more time... Powell was given totally false information by the intelligence community, which was the sole basis for his UN speech. There have been so many confirmations of this, it's bordering on ridiculous. Our intelligence was flat out wrong; either because they (certain figures such as Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, etc.) had an agenda and wanted the intelligence to support that agenda or because the intelligence community simply used poor judgment in coming to those conclusions, such as dubious, single-source/no confirmation reports, and so on. Powell was a messenger, not the seller you describe. He was against going to war until Bush made his decision, and lot of that decision was based on all the bad intelligence, as well as listening to bad advice. General Powell owes us nothing as he apologized many times for saying what he did, and he served his country well for over 40 years. He's not a politician, he's a patriot, probably one of the most honest patriots of his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Powell is a moderate conservative, highly decorated former General who's also a black man who grew up during the tumultuous civil rights movement and probably never thought this day would ever come during his lifetime. I can't fault him for supporting Obama, but he's being less than honest when saying Obama's race didn't have anything to do with his endorsement. Don't ever "buy" what a politician is saying. They are ALL full of crap and responsible for the hole we've dug ourselves. Powell is someone who has a lot of explaining to do in regards to why he sold America's going to war with Iraq. This love of Powell by the democrats is ridiculous considering the anti-war movement was the main reason Obama became the democratic nominee for President. I always admired Powell and, prior to the war, would have supported him for president, because I believed in his honesty and integrity. He's not a politician - he sucks at it. I think he was deceived and taken advantage of by the Administration, who used him as their "front" knowing how well respected he is. He made a huge error in not realizing that sooner. It's something he will have to live with. I believe him when he said that if it was about race, he'd have spoken before. If you open your ears a bit you will hear many moderate Republicans squirming in agony over the crappy campaign McCain is running. Powell just happens to be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 If you open your ears a bit you will hear many moderate Republicans squirming in agony over the crappy campaign McCain is running. Powell just happens to be one of them. You'll hear a lot of true conservatives squirming, too. Then again, McCain has NEVER been a conservative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Not to be cynical but let's get back to the reality of this endorsement. Either he's choosing his race over his country OR he no longer believes in the conservative values he's held for 50 years because Barack Obama is a "transformational" candidate. Both reasons are highly suspect. Kind of like that WMD thing. What's weird is that the endorsement of the guy who sold the Iraq War to America has suddenly made the anti-Iraq War messiah so damn humble. Or ... made an informed (very informed, seeing how well he knows each candidate personally) decision and is smart enough to know that just because he is a republican .. does not mean he has to vote that way in every election, because there are exceptions to every rule. Yo, make whatever ignorant assumptions you want about the guy. He's still 1000 times more accomplished and smarter than you will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer860 Posted October 20, 2008 Author Share Posted October 20, 2008 Strange bed fellows. Powell beleives in using overwhelming force ,once the troops are commited ,as Powell also stated in the Powell doctrine . Powell believed in the surge. Obama did not. I am sure Powell did not support Rumsfeld in the conduct of the war. So if its not about race what is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Strange bed fellows. Powell beleives in using overwhelming force ,once the troops are commited ,as Powell also stated in the Powell doctrine . Powell believed in the surge. Obama did not.I am sure Powell did not support Rumsfeld in the conduct of the war. So if its not about race what is it? Dude.. he tells you what it's about. Watch the interviews. Let Colin Powell himself answer your questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StupidNation Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 With political trifecta buddies like Nancy "San Francisco" Pelosi and Harry "we lost the Iraq war" Reid? You'll need more than hope, you'll need a miracle. I'm preparing for a very hard left turn in the country. As for Powell, he's full of it. If this was a lilly-white liberal democratic freshman senator named "Steven" Obama he would certainly NOT be endorsing him. He's so completely full of it when he states that his endorsement is not about Obama's race. Is there any politician out there who can actually tell the truth? I'll be so glad when all this bs ends in a few weeks. Of course it's not about race. Powell has endorsed scores of other people with no experience. Of course liberals will always not talk about the facts and term this racist. The same people that will scream for nation and individual savings, common-sense, and freedom when both major parties take it away from us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Strange bed fellows. Powell beleives in using overwhelming force ,once the troops are commited ,as Powell also stated in the Powell doctrine . Powell believed in the surge. Obama did not.I am sure Powell did not support Rumsfeld in the conduct of the war. So if its not about race what is it? Is THAT the "Powell Doctrine"? That's the stupidest thing I ever heard. Everyone else in history calls that "common sense". Only in America would we have to doctrinize it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Powell is a moderate conservative, highly decorated former General who's also a black man who grew up during the tumultuous civil rights movement and probably never thought this day would ever come during his lifetime. I can't fault him for supporting Obama, but he's being less than honest when saying Obama's race didn't have anything to do with his endorsement. Don't ever "buy" what a politician is saying. They are ALL full of crap and responsible for the hole we've dug ourselves. Powell is someone who has a lot of explaining to do in regards to why he sold America's going to war with Iraq. This love of Powell by the democrats is ridiculous considering the anti-war movement was the main reason Obama became the democratic nominee for President. You and a lot of Republicans and conservatives are just stupid to assume that people who were against this Iraq war are anti-war, or were 100% against it. There were millions of people who thought it was just the wrong war at the wrong time, we didn't have the rest of the world on our side, we weren't sure that all diplomatic efforts were taken or that the bad guy and his (alleged) WMD couldn't be contained, or that the real threat was Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and not Iraq. Or they were SLIGHTLY tilted against the war versus for it. They weren't anti-war. Just that war, at that time, that way. That was the first war I can remember being against. It was very easy for me to understand and even accept other people believing in the war, and I didn't think they were necessarily stupid for thinking so. A lot of the reasons made sense. I simply had more reasons for not doing it than doing it. Powell is also as much about diplomacy as he is showing our might, he's very concerned with image around the world that a lot of conservatives aren't, he's thought to be socially left leaning (like most people believe he's pro-choice even though he's never publicly stated his position), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 You and a lot of Republicans and conservatives are just stupid to assume that people who were against this Iraq war are anti-war, or were 100% against it. There were millions of people who thought it was just the wrong war at the wrong time, we didn't have the rest of the world on our side, we weren't sure that all diplomatic efforts were taken or that the bad guy and his (alleged) WMD couldn't be contained, or that the real threat was Al Qaeda in Afghanistan and not Iraq. Or they were SLIGHTLY tilted against the war versus for it. They weren't anti-war. Just that war, at that time, that way. That was the first war I can remember being against. It was very easy for me to understand and even accept other people believing in the war, and I didn't think they were necessarily stupid for thinking so. A lot of the reasons made sense. I simply had more reasons for not doing it than doing it. Powell is also as much about diplomacy as he is showing our might, he's very concerned with image around the world that a lot of conservatives aren't, he's thought to be socially left leaning (like most people believe his pro-choice even though he's never publicly stated his position), etc. Oh, get out of here with your seditious nuance and shades of gray, you hippie traitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Oh, get out of here with your seditious nuance and shades of gray, you hippie traitor. You were one of those smart guys I was talking about if I recall correctly, who were against the war for solid, intelligent, logical reasons even though you saw the appeal of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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