PromoTheRobot Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Verizon, T-Mobile say: AHHHHHHHHHRGHH! PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'm on board. I cover HS football games for the Cleveland Plain Dealer, and I hate running around on deadline trying to find a live phone line or an unsecured WiFi signal. I'd love to be able to flip open the laptop, jump on to a network and email my story in. Some of the tech gurus can correct me if I'm wrong (and I probably am) but I think WiMax is the next wave of wireless broadband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Slightly unrelated, but: Has the San Fran, citywide free wireless plan, been fully implemented yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 So who's paying for that "free" service? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Slightly unrelated, but: Has the San Fran, citywide free wireless plan, been fully implemented yet? No, but Mountain View, down the Peninsula (where Google is) does have it. SF is more worried about banning plastic bags at supermarkets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 "This would be lifeline broadband service . . . that would be designed for lower-income people who may not otherwise have access to the Internet." So the internet is no longer a luxury, but a right? Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 So the internet is no longer a luxury, but a right? Lovely. Well, it's getting that way, isn't it? Would you call indoor plumbing and television luxuries? They were once. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Well, it's getting that way, isn't it? Would you call indoor plumbing and television luxuries? They were once. PTR But they're not a right either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Well, it's getting that way, isn't it? Would you call indoor plumbing and television luxuries? They were once. PTR Yes, I would. I don't have the expectation that my tax dollars need to go to either of those services, and would be upset if they were provided to some members of the community and not others based on class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, I would. I don't have the expectation that my tax dollars need to go to either of those services, and would be upset if they were provided to some members of the community and not others based on class. So you're saying if it's free for some, it should be free for all? I have a belief that if you can't afford something you don't need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 So you're saying if it's free for some, it should be free for all? I have a belief that if you can't afford something you don't need it. It needs to be all or none. I have the same belief as you, which is why I don't think wifi welfare should ever happen. If it's not life sustaining, it should not be considered a welfare program that my tax dollers are used for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 It needs to be all or none. I have the same belief as you, which is why I don't think wifi welfare should ever happen. If it's not life sustaining, it should not be considered a welfare program that my tax dollers are used for. Well I think some of us here think it's life sustaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, I would. I don't have the expectation that my tax dollars need to go to either of those services, and would be upset if they were provided to some members of the community and not others based on class. Taxes go to schools and water and police and so on. Broadband internet is not just for looking at porn and bitching about the Bills. It's vital for education and business. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Taxes go to schools and water and police and so on. Broadband internet is not just for looking at porn and bitching about the Bills. It's vital for education and business. PTR And schools, water and police services are offered to every member of the community. Funny, I went to school before the internet and had no problems learning. We also have these wonderful places called public libraries that provide free internet. Why should my tax dollars subsidize a luxury when the services are available elsewhere for free? If the government wants to waste money on free wireless, I should be able to get it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 If it's not life sustaining, it should not be considered a welfare program that my tax dollers are used for. Then you're gonna love your next president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 And schools, water and police services are offered to every member of the community. Funny, I went to school before the internet and had no problems learning. We also have these wonderful places called public libraries that provide free internet. Why should my tax dollars subsidize a luxury when the services are available elsewhere for free? If the government wants to waste money on free wireless, I should be able to get it too. I'd love to know how many services, benefits, credits, deductions, etc. you receive that are funded by tax dollars? I find folks who complain the most about other get their own too. PTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Free WiFi is a god-given right, like universal healthcare. /Obama 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegtapr Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I'd love to know how many services, benefits, credits, deductions, etc. you receive that are funded by tax dollars? I find folks who complain the most about other get their own too. PTR Are you talking tax credits and deductions? I don't see what me receiving the money I earned back has anything to do with this arguement. It was my money in the first place. I've never used a service that wasn't also available to my neighbor. I don't complain about people on public assistance that honestly need it and are trying to better their lives, not mooch off the system. Somebody needs food, I'm happy my tax dollars feed them. Need a roof over their head? I'm happy my tax dollars provide that. Lost a job? I'm happy to help them recover. But I'll never be happy about what any half brained individual would consider a technological luxury that has no bearing on whether or not they'll see tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Free WiFi is a god-given right, like universal healthcare. /Obama 2012. So, you're suggesting that Barack won't get his healthcare initiative accomplished in his first term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 So who's paying for that "free" service? Same way when you go through a lock on a boat. You don't have to pay on the inland waterways. Our founding fathers knew that it would keep people free and help the economy. Actually, commerical interests kick .19 a gallon on fuel used towards the Inland Trust. Commercial traffic has always risen. Maybe the same can be done with the internet infrastucture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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