lilannie Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe Fred Jackson tested positive for something and is facing a suspension?
murra Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe Fred Jackson tested positive for something and is facing a suspension? Suspend him from the website. Brilliant.
Saint Doug Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Well, NE does NEED a RB in the worst way. They are not going to win with Cassell and they know it. If they become a team that is centered around a game changing RB, they might just win. And as for Jackson sparking our offense, I agree. He has been a huge part of our offense. But, most of his spark comes from being able to catch out of the back field. I TG can replace Jackson's receptions and the some, we will be even better off. As for Jackson's running aility, Lynch has to step up. Lynch was the 1st rounder, not Jackson, so he needs to step up his game. While I hate to see Jackson leave, where the Bills really going to make an effort to sign him up long-term at theend of this year? I dunno, but there could have been a big chance of him leaving anyways. In all, I guess I have to like this trade. However, Jackson seems to be one of the only players that has shown up to each and every game.
Kelly the Dog Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Fred Jackson himself is worth a third rounder. The Chiefs were asking for a third rounder. It's impossible for me to believe that we would offer a third and Freddie. There would be no reason. Why wouldnt we just give them the third?
bladiebla Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe. But Oman is now listed as the second RB. Who do we have as a third RB? Assuming this "trade" went/goes through.... I do find it pretty odd Jackson is off the roster, regardless if he is involved in a trade or not. Technically it makes sense, if they automated the roster and depth. If a page goes awalk then next inline becomes number 2. The website being new makes both sense for them to have it automated and to having it fail badly due to human input error. It makes more sense then us trading FJ AND a 3rd for TG. FJ and a 5th maybe but not a third and FJ.
jwolf02 Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 There's one thing to really like a guy and hope he doesn't get dealt, but this is ridiculous. If you can't see how getting TG wouldn't help our team, then I really don't know what to say. Our TEs are horrible. I know TG is a huge upgrade over Schouman, Fine, Royal, etc, etc, but I don't think giving up Jackson is the right price to pay for that, especially if it also includes a 3rd. Outside of Edwards, I would say that Fred has been just as integral to the team as anyone else if not more.
The Dean Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 I love Freddie Jackson, and would hate to see him go, but IMO Tony G would make a much bigger impact on this team, in the short term (next two years). This team needs to start using the TE better, and I think that instantly happens with the acquisition of Gonzo. It also makes the D play less aggressively at the LOS, giving the Bills' RBs more room to run. Even if the Bills don't add any new plays to take full advantage of TG until later in the year, or next year, he helps the team utilize the TE position better, next week. Now, I think they can use the TE better next week, with the current personnel, but they probably won't. With TG, they will, IMO.
Steely Dan Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe Fred Jackson tested positive for something and is facing a suspension? Very doubtful. Why would KC take him then?
Saint Doug Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 What a stretch. The website having no Jackson is the only reason I think it may be true, but I don't know why they would do that before it goes public. Can anyone positively confirm that Jackson was indeed on the roster and depth chart a few days ago?
lilannie Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Very doubtful. Why would KC take him then? No, I mean that's why he's off the depth chart/roster for now.
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 What a stretch. The website having no Jackson is the only reason I think it may be true, but I don't know why they would do that before it goes public. It's at least plausible. Barnes just got cut; BB.com just re-did their webpage; could have been a simple mistake. It would be nice to know when the change was made on bb.com.
bladiebla Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Maybe Fred Jackson tested positive for something and is facing a suspension? Thatb doesnt explain all his info gone. Plus the roster has a reserved/suspended list it it's pulldown menu.
deep2evans Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 I know TG is a huge upgrade over Schouman, Fine, Royal, etc, etc, but I don't think giving up Jackson is the right price to pay for that, especially if it also includes a 3rd. Outside of Edwards, I would say that Fred has been just as integral to the team as anyone else if not more. Jesus H Christ, cmon guy. Jackson behind only Edwards? How about Evans who was first in the AFC in yards coming into this week? Listen I love Freddy Jackson, and he's a helluva back-up running back. He may even become a solid starter someday. But if we could swap our back-up RB for Tony frigging Gonzalez, you pull the trigger.
Steely Dan Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 I love Freddie Jackson, and would hate to see him go, but IMO Tony G would make a much bigger impact on this team, in the short term (next two years). This team needs to start using the TE better, and I think that instantly happens with the acquisition of Gonzo. It also makes the D play less aggressively at the LOS, giving the Bills' RBs more room to run. Even if the Bills don't add any new plays to take full advantage of TG until later in the year, or next year, he helps the team utilize the TE position better, next week. Now, I think they can use the TE better next week, with the current personnel, but they probably won't. With TG, they will, IMO. What he said. I would rather see JP go than Jackson and I think he'd be worth more.
bladiebla Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 It would be nice to know when the change was made on bb.com. Google cache has him on the 8th so anywhere between the 9th and today.
murra Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Jason peters is also off the depth chart! So is Barnes and Crowell WTF!!!???
The Dean Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Jason peters is also off the depth chart! This is one big trade! My new working theory is, the guy at the Bills' website is drunk/high/pissed off/last day at work, and is having fun jerking our chains on bb.com, and wiki. That bastard!
BuffaloRebound Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 It's at least plausible. Barnes just got cut; BB.com just re-did their webpage; could have been a simple mistake. It would be nice to know when the change was made on bb.com. It's also plausible that New England wants to wait until after their game to announce the deal.
murra Posted October 13, 2008 Posted October 13, 2008 Jesus H Christ, cmon guy. Jackson behind only Edwards? How about Evans who was first in the AFC in yards coming into this week? Listen I love Freddy Jackson, and he's a helluva back-up running back. He may even become a solid starter someday. But if we could swap our back-up RB for Tony frigging Gonzalez, you pull the trigger. Is his value to you simply "back-up RB"? I agree with your logic, but Jackson is clearly a play maker with a game-changing potential.
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