John Adams Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I know everyone on the left wants to blow off William Ayers. I find that incomprehensible. Can you imagine if Palin was associated with anyone that bombed an abortion clinic? Do you have ANY idea what kind of sh-- storm that would cause? Yet there is the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. There are lots of these characters in Obama's past, yet time and again he has to disavow them. No one cares. No one cares that he has no one to vouch for his actions on the past. He's married to a woman who flat out hates America. She's a friggin' psycho. He marries someone who hates this country, he goes to church to listen to someone who hates this country, he raises money for people who bombed buildings, and yet no one cares. All these nutjobs that he surrounded himself with his entire life. Yet, no one cares. Because he talks nicely. I mean, WTF? It is the only thing we have to judge his words by - and no one voting for him really cares. I agree with your point (not quoted above) that "smart people" can be scary. The above though, is a bit silly. Obama is more left than he wants to discuss. That seems clear. But calling his wife a psycho? She's not running. Yet Palin, who is a whole lot scarier in that creepy fundamentalist Bush/Ashcroft way but without the experience or intelligence (yeah, I said it, she's not even as smart as Bush), is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Great post. Though most wont be able to wrap their heads around it because they're in Obama's trance. Drink up Lemmings. That post was nothing more than fearmongering. John and Cindy McCain's new approach, because you know, they were running such a clean and nice campaign.... keep throwing fearmongering statements at the wall until one sticks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 yet no one wants to contrast that picture with what (little) he has actually done. As oppossed to McCain's 25-years of mediocrity in DC? The guy's been a passenger, pure and simple, with little to point to other than McCain-Feingold--which he now distances himself from becuase Republicans don't like it much. I want to know one thing from the McCain supporters--are you actually supporting the man himself, or are you voting for him because he's the Republican standard bearer and you want the Dems to lose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I agree with your point (not quoted above) that "smart people" can be scary. The above though, is a bit silly. Obama is more left than he wants to discuss. That seems clear. But calling his wife a psycho? She's not running. Yet Palin, who is a whole lot scarier in that creepy fundamentalist Bush/Ashcroft way but without the experience or intelligence (yeah, I said it, she's not even as smart as Bush), is. The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I hope the country will move past electing leaders that have the support of people like you People like me? really. what exactly is a "person" like me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... I'm still waiting for you to tell me specifically what actions and words of Michelle Obama make you believe that she's "Psycho" and "hates America". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elegantelliotoffen Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 People like me? really. what exactly is a "person" like me? A person who brands people they disagree with politically as "Psycho" and "Anti-American". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... I cant wait to hear the spin on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... This absolutely crazy. Since you are going there, what about Palin and who she paled around with? What about who her husband paled around with? Socialist versus Cessationist who is protected from evil spirits by witchdoctors? She we call her and her husband Todd traitors? Remember the Alaskan Independence Party, seeking cessation from the USA? Todd was a member and she addressed their convention? What about their leader? Who has said wonderful things like: "I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America and her damned institutions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... OMG!! They 'found' a scrubbed web page from 1996 that says Obama was a member! Ya, that's super duper bullet proof evidence he is a Stalinst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 OMG!! They 'found' a scrubbed web page from 1996 that says Obama was a member! Ya, that's super duper bullet proof evidence he is a Stalinst! Other part: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-socialist.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Other part: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-socialist.html Real impressive website....I'm convinced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Does that membership come with a card? Do they have bake sales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Thanks for proving my point on the rhetoric. When did the Constitution and gun control become social issues? Let me go ahead and guarantee right now that President Obama and the Congressional Democrats will offer NO meaningful gun legislation during his tenure. They've learned their lesson. They'll whine a lot but they'll do nothing - it's their mantra. Mr. Obama's "clinging to their bibles and guns" comment is probably the largest reason he's not enjoying a double digit lead everywhere. Stem cell research: Check out all the work the Dems have done on it since they took over Congress. Yeah, I'm sure it's because of Parliamentary issues. AD, while I agree with the stuff I left out, I am not sure about gun control on two fronts. One gun control is both a constitutional issue and a social issue. It gets into both territories. Banning guns is a social construct. That being said, from a legislative, in this case constitutional amendment necessity it is a bad idea. However, computerized background checks and a waiting period before a gun is allowed to handed over in all circumstances should be the law. In today's day and age, an aggressive attempt to keep guns out of the hands of common criminals, higher regulation gun dealers should be instituted That being said, it won't solve the issue, just put a damper on it. Kind of like the fence across the southern border. But I do think the Dems if they win the WH will attempt some form of legislation. I am tired of yahoo's walking out into the woods drinking and shooting, let alone the cattle drives they call hunting and sportsmanship. The genocide in the Sudan and Darfur has been less efficient than these so call canned hunt... slaughters. P.S. I am all for hunting, just not this B.S. I have hunted and fished much of my life and this kind of stuff should just be made criminal. The stem cell deal really bothers me and if Obama wins and they don't do something significant about it, I am going to be really disappointed. God, I sound like my mom. F'mm if they don't. My son has a neuro issue and this research may be able cure the underlying problem combined with some gene therapy. Screw the religo nuts who block this kind of research based on their narcissistic view of the bible. Wake up, it ain't God's will and they are just delaying the inevitable because of the red cool aide they are drinking. So their only accomplishment is that more folks will suffer, need more government services, and cost the tax payers money. It is the shame based society we live in, pathetic and all sides seem to practice it in one form or another. The rest I couldn't agree with you more, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Other part: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-socialist.html Oh well, a socialist president for a socialist nation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... I have no idea if he was " a member" of this "party" or not, but I did actually just go to their website from the links on your link, and if you give them $1.00, you're "a member of the party". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The reason she is relevant is because she is another example of who Obama chooses to associate with. In fact, if you told me that the his choice of churches, led by Rev. Wright, were actually driven by her - it would seem to be entirely plausible. Again, maybe this wouldn't be an issue if Obama had anything but a paper thin record and a lot of fuzzy rhetoric. But, that is all we have to go on him. It is ridiculous that only a few weeks before the election - we are only starting to get wind of this: http://politicallydrunk.blogspot.com/2008/...-obama-was.html which claims there is a paper trail that shows Obama was indeed a member of the socialist New Party in Illinois. I have no idea what he did then or what his involvement was, but how are we learning about all this now? Oh, that's right. No one bothered to ask... Yep, two can play this game: Why did McCain accept these two clowns endorsement???? http://www.mnblue.com/node/1316l Please, there is a lots of the crap out their. Do you want more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I have no idea if he was " a member" of this "party" or not, but I did actually just go to their website from the links on your link, and if you give them $1.00, you're "a member of the party". Would you or would you not agree that given the 3rd party verification for some of the claims, that this is something that should have been investigated/known many, many moons ago? Don't you think items like this are just a tad more relevant than Sarah Palin's daughter or if Joe Biden exaggerates his Pakistan trips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 And this??? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/2/851...0062/867/545256 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 How about this??? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cliff-schect...em_b_99014.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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