BillsWatch Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 My high school system (graduate of 1979) has gotten some national and international press from yesterday. I'd like to see the other photos. http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=634384&ni...&pid=latest http://es.noticias.yahoo.com/ap/20081007/f...fbf1d840d7.html http://www.instablogs.com/entry/patriotic-eagle/ Patriotic Eagle This photo, supplied by Patty Watson, shows 1,450 Frontier Middle School students, teachers, staff, and volunteers standing to form an American eagle in Hamburg, N.Y., Monday, Oct. 6, 2008. Designer Patty Watson has staged 10 similar photos representing different symbols of America since 9/11 to teach children about patriotism. Photographer Dave Sion took this from the bucket of a fire truck 100 feet in the air. (AP Photo/Patty Watson-Dave Sion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 My high school system (graduate of 1979) has gotten some national and international press from yesterday.I'd like to see the other photos. http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=634384&ni...&pid=latest http://es.noticias.yahoo.com/ap/20081007/f...fbf1d840d7.html http://www.instablogs.com/entry/patriotic-eagle/ Patriotic Eagle . Designer Patty Watson has staged 10 similar photos representing different symbols of America since 9/11 to teach children about patriotism. i'm not sure i want anyone "teaching" my children "about patriotism".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 i'm not sure i want anyone "teaching" my children "about patriotism".... Don't you want children to be proud about their own country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Don't you want children to be proud about their own country? Not at all! I wish they'll hate the concepts of nations, countries and borders the way their dad do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philly McButterpants Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 My high school system (graduate of 1979) has gotten some national and international press from yesterday.I'd like to see the other photos. http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=634384&ni...&pid=latest http://es.noticias.yahoo.com/ap/20081007/f...fbf1d840d7.html http://www.instablogs.com/entry/patriotic-eagle/ Patriotic Eagle This photo, supplied by Patty Watson, shows 1,450 Frontier Middle School students, teachers, staff, and volunteers standing to form an American eagle in Hamburg, N.Y., Monday, Oct. 6, 2008. Designer Patty Watson has staged 10 similar photos representing different symbols of America since 9/11 to teach children about patriotism. Photographer Dave Sion took this from the bucket of a fire truck 100 feet in the air. (AP Photo/Patty Watson-Dave Sion) Awesome . . . Both of my kids are in that picture. One in 8th Grade, one in 6th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Not at all! I wish they'll hate the concepts of nations, countries and borders the way their dad do! Very noble thought. I say the entire populations of Morocco and Algeria pack up and move to the middle of Basque country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Very noble thought. I say the entire populations of Morocco and Algeria pack up and move to the middle of Basque country. Not a bad idea, that 'd open some eyes among some guys around here... (btw if your patriotism is just a way to differenciate yourself from third world populations i'm happy i'm not a patriot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taterhill Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Awesome . . . Both of my kids are in that picture. One in 8th Grage, one in 6th I think I see them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullpen Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I think I see them Nice photo by the 'burg kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Of course, in France they would form a white flag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Not at all! I wish they'll hate the concepts of nations, countries and borders the way their dad do! Interesting POV Olivier to say the least. There was a big difference between the way the English and French would colonize. When the French colonized, the new area would in all practicality be treated like it was in France proper. Quite different from the way the English would treat their colonial properties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Interesting POV Olivier to say the least. There was a big difference between the way the English and French would colonize. When the French colonized, the new area would in all practicality be treated like it was in France proper. Quite different from the way the English would treat their colonial properties. Don't know what's the link between what you say and the posts above but it's true. That's the old "equality" obsession of all french governments since Louis XIVth. Parisianism BS IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Don't know what's the link between what you say and the posts above but it's true. That's the old "equality" obsession of all french governments since Louis XIVth. Parisianism BS IMO. My point was you hate the notion of countries and borders unless it is all one France. And the way the French colonized, that was surely their goal, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SageAgainstTheMachine Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 i'm not sure i want anyone "teaching" my children "about patriotism".... Right on brother, it seems that in this country we don't like to let our children create their own opinions about the positives and negatives of being an American, we tend to force patriotism (though a better word is nationalism) down their throats. In grade school, kids learn all about Columbus but not the genocide he committed. They learn all about World War II but not internment camps. They learn all about Manifest Destiny and American expansion, but not the Trail of Tears. I know this Patriotic Eagle picture is innocent enough and all, but it also seems to me to have a subversive side. Show kids enough Pro-American symbology and propaganda and they'll buy into the whole "America is the best country in the world" ideaology without ever questioning it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 11, 2008 Share Posted October 11, 2008 Right on brother, it seems that in this country we don't like to let our children create their own opinions about the positives and negatives of being an American, we tend to force patriotism (though a better word is nationalism) down their throats. In grade school, kids learn all about Columbus but not the genocide he committed. They learn all about World War II but not internment camps. They learn all about Manifest Destiny and American expansion, but not the Trail of Tears. I know this Patriotic Eagle picture is innocent enough and all, but it also seems to me to have a subversive side. Show kids enough Pro-American symbology and propaganda and they'll buy into the whole "America is the best country in the world" ideaology without ever questioning it. PC = Patriotic Correctness. And it has only gotten worse after 911. Now, don't get me wrong I am all for it in such organizations like scouting and what not... I am all for it when people want to show it. But, being patriotic to me also means asking questions, getting to the truth, etc... No matter how it hurts or may offend. Patriotism is freedom of voice... Not a lemming movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 My point was you hate the notion of countries and borders unless it is all one France. And the way the French colonized, that was surely their goal, no? the Nation i hate the most is by far France, Exiled!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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