ACORN voter fraud ring nabbed in Nevada

[Kelly the Dog]

Looks like Obama's $800,000 to ACORN is starting to be accounted for.

 

Ohio ACORN Recruits People To Get Out The Vote for Obama!

 

Ohio Recruitment Blog #1

 

Ohio Blog #2

 

I love this part of the ad:

 

 

 

So I'm confused: is he a part of Acorn or not? Well, maybe he'll just denounce them and all will be forgiven.

 

Again.

ACORN seems like a rather loose run company, who is getting into all kinds of trouble, and rightfully should be investigated. I also think that Obama should denounce them more than he has.

 

But what do you think they actually do? Seems to me from what I have read from several different sources is they simply hire a bunch of losers for low wages trying to get as many people as they can to register to vote. These losers, who are lazy and slimeballs, don't do what they are hired to do and try to get as many names on these things as they can. That's pretty much it. In these particular accusations, I haven't seen hardly any actual voter fraud where people are voting twice or dead people are voting or elections are trying to be stolen. They just seem to have horrible oversight and hiring practices.

 

The connection of Obama to ACORN, as a bad character thing is foolish. It was something he was assigned to from the firm he worked for, in partnership with the US Justice Department, before he even entered politics.

 

Taking a break from debate preparations, Obama told reporters during a brief press conference this afternoon, "My relationship to ACORN is pretty straightforward. It's probably 13 years ago when I was still practicing law, I represented ACORN and my partner in that representation was the U.S. Justice Department in having Illinois implement what was called the "motor voter" law, to make sure that people could go to DMVs and driver's license facilities to get registered. It wasn't being implemented. That was my relationship, and is my relationship to ACORN."

 

He said he had further interactions with the group through its Chicago office, in his capacity as a local elected official. "But they are not advising our campaign," Obama asserted. "We've got the best voter registration and turnout and volunteer operation in politics right now and we don't need ACORN's help."

[IDBillzFan]

The connection of Obama to ACORN, as a bad character thing is foolish. It was something he was assigned to from the firm he worked for, in partnership with the US Justice Department, before he even entered politics.

Dude, are you completely in denial or on the ACORN payroll? His campaign GAVE ACORN $800,000. And they're using the money to hire people to go door-to-door to get fake voter registrations WHILE telling them to vote for Obama. Are you so far to the left that you have gone back to the "It was something he was assigned to from the firm he worked for, in partnership with the US Justice Department, before he even entered politics."

 

EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND. FROM OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN. TO ACORN. THIS YEAR.

 

Oh, wait.

 

It was a long time ago. Another denouncement. Just another misunderstanding.

 

Again.

 

See the trend?

 

No. No, you don't.

[Kelly the Dog]

Dude, are you completely in denial or on the ACORN payroll? His campaign GAVE ACORN $800,000. And they\'re using the money to hire people to go door-to-door to get fake voter registrations WHILE telling them to vote for Obama. Are you so far to the left that you have gone back to the \"It was something he was assigned to from the firm he worked for, in partnership with the US Justice Department, before he even entered politics.\"

 

EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND. FROM OBAMA\'S CAMPAIGN. TO ACORN. THIS YEAR.

 

Oh, wait.

 

It was a long time ago. Another denouncement. Just another misunderstanding.

 

Again.

 

See the trend?

 

No. No, you don\'t.

I was talking about when he was a lawyer for them 13 years ago. That is the other accusation. Not his campaign hiring canvassers. I already said he should denounce them more than he has.

 

Since, remarkably, the administrator of PPP doesn't allow links to ACORN's website, here is part of an article they ran today. These people are radicals!

October 13, 2008

 

Senator Allied with ACORN as Recently as 2006, Now Turns Cold Shoulder

 

October 13, 2008, Miami, FL - U.S. Senator John McCain's recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus.

 

The rally, co-sponsored by ACORN in partnership with the New American Opportunity campaign (NAOC), Catholic League Services – Archdiocese of Miami, Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, Florida Immigrant Coalition, Miami Dade College, People for the American Way/Mi Familia/Vota en Accion, the Service Employees International Union, and UNITE/HERE, was intended to call attention to the need for comprehensive immigration reform.

 

Senator McCain spoke at the rally attended by hundreds of ACORN members, most of whom were dressed in the red shirts typical of its members. Senator McCain's speech focused on the Secure America and Orderly Immigration Act, a bipartisan, comprehensive reform bill, which McCain sponsored with Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA).

 

Bertha Lewis, Chief Organizer of ACORN, said, "It has deeply saddened us to see Senator McCain abandon his historic support for ACORN and our efforts to support the goals of low-income Americans. Maybe it is out of desperation that Senator McCain has forgotten that he was for ACORN before he was against ACORN; he was for immigration reform before he was against immigration reform; and he was a maverick before he became erratic. We were thrilled to partner with him to help reform the outdated immigration laws in this country, and were pleased to work closely with him on this issue."

 

Lewis continued, "We expected Senator McCain to support our efforts to give voice to millions of Americans who have never participated in an election before. We are surprised at his efforts to vilify an organization that, until recently, he saw as an ally. Maybe this surprise attack and change of heart is indicative of his state of mind, and the way he would govern."

 

Senator McCain and his campaign have recently launched a series of coordinated attacks on ACORN, the nation’s largest community organization of low-and moderate-income families.

 

Ms. Lewis went on to say that, "We are sure that the extremists he is trying to get into a froth will be even more excited to learn that John McCain stood shoulder to shoulder with ACORN, at an ACORN co-sponsored event, to promote immigration reform."

[blzrul]

Dude, are you completely in denial or on the ACORN payroll? His campaign GAVE ACORN $800,000. And they're using the money to hire people to go door-to-door to get fake voter registrations WHILE telling them to vote for Obama. Are you so far to the left that you have gone back to the "It was something he was assigned to from the firm he worked for, in partnership with the US Justice Department, before he even entered politics."

 

EIGHT HUNDRED THOUSAND. FROM OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN. TO ACORN. THIS YEAR.

 

Oh, wait.

 

It was a long time ago. Another denouncement. Just another misunderstanding.

 

Again.

 

See the trend?

 

No. No, you don't.

It's perfectly legal to register voters and, if you're working on behalf of a campaign, to ask them to vote for your candidate. I've been registering voters since age 14. So what? It doesn't mean you can MAKE them vote that way. And if I get paid for my trouble - so what?

 

The crime would be if I knowingly falsified and submitted registrations for people who couldn't qualify or didn't exist. In that case I'd be defrauding the people who paid me. I could be prosecuted.

 

Obama is not a stupid man. If you think for one minute that he or his campaign advocated hiring ACORN to falsely register voters, you must be on drugs. Even the Republicans can steal their elections for free, and Obama's a lot smarter than your average Republican.

[gmac17]

Do I think the top brass at Acorn sits around and says "how can we register more fake people to get them to vote"? Not exactly.

 

Do I think a lot of local ACORN managers (who are certainly Obama supporters) look the other way and give a wink wink when all sorts of funny stuff comes in? Absolutely.

 

 

Do I think that today in downtown philadelphia and pittsburgh, and in random rural towns in Ohio that the local political bosses are scanning the voter roles, and figuring out shenanigans to commit voter fraud? Absolutely.

[ExiledInIllinois]

Do I think a lot of local ACORN managers (who are certainly Obama supporters) look the other way and give a wink wink when all sorts of funny stuff comes in? Absolutely.

 

What is the point? How in the heck is one ever going to get these to float and actually vote.

 

What is the chance that somebody is inflitrating and trying to screw with ACORN... Hey, you have your conspiracy, why can't I?

[D_House]

Do I think the top brass at Acorn sits around and says "how can we register more fake people to get them to vote"? Not exactly.

 

Do I think a lot of local ACORN managers (who are certainly Obama supporters) look the other way and give a wink wink when all sorts of funny stuff comes in? Absolutely.

 

 

Do I think that today in downtown philadelphia and pittsburgh, and in random rural towns in Ohio that the local political bosses are scanning the voter roles, and figuring out shenanigans to commit voter fraud? Absolutely.

Aren't a lot of these irregularities being reported by ACORN itself?

[Johnny Coli]

Aren't a lot of these irregularities being reported by ACORN itself?

They sure are. They're required to by law. And they're not allowed to destroy any that come in. So, ACORN pays some people to register voters. A handful of those people sit at home and fill out registration cards with cartoon character's names because they don't really want to go door-to-door. The registration cards get turned in to ACORN, who looks them over and sees that they are cartoon character names, but by law they can't throw them out, and by law they have to turn them over pointing out they are bogus. Sounds fishy to me. Sounds like a real insidious plot.

 

People ought to be asking themselves why the GOP is making a big deal out of what really isn't voter fraud.

[molson_golden2002]

They sure are. They're required to by law. And they're not allowed to destroy any that come in. So, ACORN pays some people to register voters. A handful of those people sit at home and fill out registration cards with cartoon character's names because they don't really want to go door-to-door. The registration cards get turned in to ACORN, who looks them over and sees that they are cartoon character names, but by law they can't throw them out, and by law they have to turn them over pointing out they are bogus. Sounds fishy to me. Sounds like a real insidious plot.

 

People ought to be asking themselves why the GOP is making a big deal out of what really isn't voter fraud.

I was flipping through the stations and hit Fox News for one minute and this is all they were tlking about. They showed some black guy with his hat on sideways filling out forms with a whole bunch of other black people around. Then they cut to Ringo Star's internet message that he won't read his mail from fans anymore and the anchor thought this was just pathetic. A selfish 60's has been, lol. Fox is a total joke

[yall]

Aren't a lot of these irregularities being reported by ACORN itself?

 

Yes. They are doing their best to self regulate (although they put themselves in akward positions with their practices to begin with).

[IDBillzFan]

The crime would be if I knowingly falsified and submitted registrations for people who couldn't qualify or didn't exist. In that case I'd be defrauding the people who paid me. I could be prosecuted.

 

Obama is not a stupid man. If you think for one minute that he or his campaign advocated hiring ACORN to falsely register voters, you must be on drugs. Even the Republicans can steal their elections for free, and Obama's a lot smarter than your average Republican.

I see. Obama is too smart to tie himself directly to the people who are doing all the illegal activities. Or he's smart enough to keep just enough distance.

 

Again.

 

No trend here, folks. Just look the other way. He denounced Acorn. And Ayers. And Rezko. And Wright. And everyone and everything else that he's tied to but not really tied to because it's all just a big understanding from when he was eight years old.

 

His hands are clean.

 

Again.

 

"Hey everyone! Look! Sarah Palin's husband built a house with "friends!!!" :lol:

 

Chumps.

[Lurker]

Aren't a lot of these irregularities being reported by ACORN itself?

 

Today's Wall Street Journal (that bastion of liberalism):

 

"The number of bad registrations, erroneous registrations, workers cheating their employer by registering people twice -- that does happen," Steve Kest, Acorn's executive director, said Tuesday. "But the incidence of voters registering and then voting under false names is minimal."

 

Last year, Acorn canvassers in Washington state and Missouri admitted to falsifying voter registrations. In response, Acorn switched its canvassers to an hourly wage with goals for number of registrations by each canvasser. Previously it paid workers by the number of registration forms turned in.

 

The group also started its own antifraud program, requiring all voter applications be reviewed by supervisors and then verified by call-center employees who make as many as three attempts to reach each voter signed up by a canvasser. Acorn's internal program flags potentially fraudulent registrations. Then, as many but not all states require, it turns them over to election officials.

 

Election officials do their own quality control on registrations, but Acorn officials say they are helping the officials save time.

 

"Based on past experience, about 3% of the forms we turn in will be incomplete or problematic," said Ali Cochran, a regional quality-control manager for Acorn.

[IDBillzFan]

Today's Wall Street Journal (that bastion of liberalism):

 

"The number of bad registrations, erroneous registrations, workers cheating their employer by registering people twice -- that does happen," Steve Kest, Acorn's executive director, said Tuesday. "But the incidence of voters registering and then voting under false names is minimal."

 

Last year, Acorn canvassers in Washington state and Missouri admitted to falsifying voter registrations. In response, Acorn switched its canvassers to an hourly wage with goals for number of registrations by each canvasser. Previously it paid workers by the number of registration forms turned in.

 

The group also started its own antifraud program, requiring all voter applications be reviewed by supervisors and then verified by call-center employees who make as many as three attempts to reach each voter signed up by a canvasser. Acorn's internal program flags potentially fraudulent registrations. Then, as many but not all states require, it turns them over to election officials.

 

Election officials do their own quality control on registrations, but Acorn officials say they are helping the officials save time.

 

"Based on past experience, about 3% of the forms we turn in will be incomplete or problematic," said Ali Cochran, a regional quality-control manager for Acorn.

Nothing to see here, folks. Please move along.

 

Again.

[Lurker]

Nothing to see here, folks. Please move along.

 

Again.

What? It doesn't jibe with your world view?

[molson_golden2002]

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dl...TPAGE/810150301

 

Prosecutors have filed fresh indictments against a former high-level Republican official whose culpability in New Hampshire's 2002 Election Day phone-jamming scandal has been the subject of years of courtroom battles.

 

Two new felony indictments charge that James Tobin, 48, of Bangor, Maine, lied to a special agent of the FBI when he was interviewed in 2003 about his role in the phone-jamming case.

 

Prosecutors have painted Tobin, the former New England regional director of the Republican National Committee, as the linchpin of the scheme to tie up six Democratic and union phone lines in New Hampshire on the day of the tight 2002 elections.

 

On that day, Republican John Sununu defeated then-Gov. Jeanne Shaheen, a Democrat, by about 20,000 votes in the race for Senate. Sununu and Shaheen are now locked in a rematch, with most polls giving Shaheen the lead.

[Johnny Coli]

I was flipping through the stations and hit Fox News for one minute and this is all they were tlking about. They showed some black guy with his hat on sideways filling out forms with a whole bunch of other black people around.

Think about how hard the GOP has gone after ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) since the conventions. From the minute Palin was nominated she (and the GOP) went hard after "community organizers." At that point in the summer they knew they were getting killed with respect to new voter registrations. In some states the numbers are almost three-to-one, Dem to Rep. The GOP is setting the public up to accept what will probably be widespread registration roll purges, ridiculously long lines at polling places in these communities to slow them down (because they're going to triple-check every single person), intimidation, and post-election recount lawsuits.

[RkFast]

Think about how hard the GOP has gone after ACORN (Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now) since the conventions. From the minute Palin was nominated she (and the GOP) went hard after "community organizers." At that point in the summer they knew they were getting killed with respect to new voter registrations. In some states the numbers are almost three-to-one, Dem to Rep. The GOP is setting the public up to accept what will probably be widespread registration roll purges, ridiculously long lines at polling places in these communities to slow them down (because they're going to triple-check every single person), intimidation, and post-election recount lawsuits.

 

Yeah...I heard this "defense" last night. Thats right....by not "allowing" ObamaCorn to break the law, the GOP is "suppressing the vote."

 

And I love the implication of racism with the whole "community organizer" thing.

 

Comical.

 

They way libbys scream "VICTIM!!!!" over and over, I wonder why they get so bent when people refer to them as pussies.

[Johnny Coli]

Yeah...I heard this "defense" last night. Thats right....by not "allowing" ObamaCorn to break the law, the GOP is "suppressing the vote."

 

And I love the implication of racism with the whole "community organizer" thing.

 

Comical.

 

They way libbys scream "VICTIM!!!!" over and over, I wonder why they get so bent when people refer to them as pussies.

The absolute worst thing that happened for your party was technology that allowed people to factcheck things for themselves. ACORN? A simple internet search shows what a non-issue it is. Ayers? A simple internet search shows what a non-issue he is. Obama's heritage, whether he'll raise taxes, how he's a Socialist, just about everything shouted out by the GOP Ministry of Truth is easily shot down with less than five clicks on the internet. You are only left with your rapidly dwindling base of ignoratti.

[Lurker]

You are only left with your rapidly dwindling base of ignoratti.

Hence, the Palin base.

[IDBillzFan]

They way libbys scream "VICTIM!!!!" over and over, I wonder why they get so bent when people refer to them as pussies.

 

"In the internet age, there are going to be lies that are spread all over the place. I have been victimized by these lies."

 

Barack Obama, MSNBC Debate, January 15, 2008

 

A victim leading his victims. Change we deserve.