ExiledInIllinois Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 facts never bothered MG before, why should they start now Good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 My bad. I had just woke up, hadn't had my morning coffee (Irish of course), and MGs avatar was on the screen You should have said it was planned... I thought it was brilliant! This no way endorses every thing MG has to say and vice-a-versa I think he would say the same. And SD... I am using the proper forum... You can put me on ignore or just not respond. What, you want to be in charge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I cant believe I'm saying this. I agree with everything AB said in the paragraph below. If a Bush-bashing, Republican-hating nincompoop like Alec Baldwin understands that Democrats are responsible for the current financial crisis, and is willing to say so on national television, why can't America's so-called "real" journalists? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard...ms-barney-frank ALEC BALDWIN: The, the thing we have to remember, a friend of mine who is very close to the financial community in New York pointed out that Democrats have a lot of the responsibility for this as well. I mean, it was Clinton who killed the Glass-Steagall, and it happened under a Democratic president. Barney Frank and his committee, they, they kept propping up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saying everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's good. And it was his job to know everything wasn't fine. And Barney Frank let you down and let us down as well. And so, but I want to say there's blame to go both ways. But I will say, I want to, I maybe keep beating this to death, but I still think anyone in this Congress who voted to add $140 billion to that bill, they should be ashamed of themselves. That is a disgrace. It's a disgrace. This Congress is a disgrace, Democrat and Republican. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin in Va Beach Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I cant believe I'm saying this. I agree with everything AB said in the paragraph below. If a Bush-bashing, Republican-hating nincompoop like Alec Baldwin understands that Democrats are responsible for the current financial crisis, and is willing to say so on national television, why can't America's so-called "real" journalists? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard...ms-barney-frank ALEC BALDWIN: The, the thing we have to remember, a friend of mine who is very close to the financial community in New York pointed out that Democrats have a lot of the responsibility for this as well. I mean, it was Clinton who killed the Glass-Steagall, and it happened under a Democratic president. Barney Frank and his committee, they, they kept propping up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saying everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's good. And it was his job to know everything wasn't fine. And Barney Frank let you down and let us down as well. And so, but I want to say there's blame to go both ways. But I will say, I want to, I maybe keep beating this to death, but I still think anyone in this Congress who voted to add $140 billion to that bill, they should be ashamed of themselves. That is a disgrace. It's a disgrace. This Congress is a disgrace, Democrat and Republican. I agree with Alec Baldwin? Surely the End of Days is upon us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well Exiled... nothing really new here, the Boss has been a true left wing american since at least the early 80ies... Just funny to see some nuts calling him "overrated" anyway... the Boss is IMO the most underrated american writer of this generation. I'm sure generations of scholars will study his songs to understand what was the USA of the second part of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st. There is not an important issue of today's America that the Bos has not described in one of his songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well Exiled... nothing really new here, the Boss has been a true left wing american since at least the early 80ies... Just funny to see some nuts calling him "overrated" anyway... the Boss is IMO the most underrated american writer of this generation. I'm sure generations of scholars will study his songs to understand what was the USA of the second part of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st. There is not an important issue of today's America that the Bos has not described in one of his songs. It's already being done Ollie! I heard this author interviewed on NPR and it was pretty interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-according-Bru...759&sr=8-14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well Exiled... nothing really new here, the Boss has been a true left wing american since at least the early 80ies... Just funny to see some nuts calling him "overrated" anyway... the Boss is IMO the most underrated american writer of this generation. I'm sure generations of scholars will study his songs to understand what was the USA of the second part of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st. There is not an important issue of today's America that the Bos has not described in one of his songs. "Strap your hands 'cross my engines" "He could throw that speed ball by ya....make you look like a fool....." What non-genius could write that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 It's already being done Ollie! I heard this author interviewed on NPR and it was pretty interesting: http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-according-Bru...759&sr=8-14 i know what to ask my girlfriend for X mas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well Exiled... nothing really new here, the Boss has been a true left wing american since at least the early 80ies... Just funny to see some nuts calling him "overrated" anyway... the Boss is IMO the most underrated american writer of this generation. I'm sure generations of scholars will study his songs to understand what was the USA of the second part of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st. There is not an important issue of today's America that the Bos has not described in one of his songs. I understand that. Springsteen, IMO has somehow kept the white, blue collar males as his fans (ie: Note PA). Springsteen is truly cut in the Woody Gurthrie mold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olivier in france Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Springsteen s truly cut in the Woody Gurthrie mold. oh sure he is. Much more than W Guthrie self proclaimed spiritual son Bob Dylan (and i love Dylan's works but, well he never had that contact with the reality of America that Guthrie and Springsteen have) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SD Jarhead Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I cant believe I'm saying this. I agree with everything AB said in the paragraph below. If a Bush-bashing, Republican-hating nincompoop like Alec Baldwin understands that Democrats are responsible for the current financial crisis, and is willing to say so on national television, why can't America's so-called "real" journalists? http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard...ms-barney-frank ALEC BALDWIN: The, the thing we have to remember, a friend of mine who is very close to the financial community in New York pointed out that Democrats have a lot of the responsibility for this as well. I mean, it was Clinton who killed the Glass-Steagall, and it happened under a Democratic president. Barney Frank and his committee, they, they kept propping up Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac saying everything's fine, everything's fine, everything's good. And it was his job to know everything wasn't fine. And Barney Frank let you down and let us down as well. And so, but I want to say there's blame to go both ways. But I will say, I want to, I maybe keep beating this to death, but I still think anyone in this Congress who voted to add $140 billion to that bill, they should be ashamed of themselves. That is a disgrace. It's a disgrace. This Congress is a disgrace, Democrat and Republican. Well there surely is enough blame to go around on both sides of the aisle. Corruption is corruption. Welcome to Rome my friend. But, it is refreshing to see Barney Fag being called out for what he is. It sickened me to see Pelosi rolling this corrupt bastard out as a 'leader' in fixing this mess while he was largely responsible for setting the stage for it. Why hasn't the MSM called him out for blowing a senior Fannie Exec while serving on the Banking Committee? No conflict of interest there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well there surely is enough blame to go around on both sides of the aisle. Corruption is corruption. Welcome to Rome my friend. But, it is refreshing to see Barney Fag being called out for what he is. It sickened me to see Pelosi rolling this corrupt bastard out as a 'leader' in fixing this mess while he was largely responsible for setting the stage for it. Why hasn't the MSM called him out for blowing a senior Fannie Exec while serving on the Banking Committee? No conflict of interest there? the reality is that Frank's blow buddy Herb Moses, who's tenure at Fannie Mae, as well as their relationship, ended in 1998. Paulson, the Federal Reserve, and the SEC have all stated that the current financial crisis "was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for US. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004." In late 2005 the House passed a bill to establish a new federal regulator for Fannie, Freddie and the Federal Home Loan Banks. The White House opposed the House bill and announced their support for a forthcoming Senate bill. But the Senate bill never came up for a vote, and the legislation died on the floor. Clearly, the Democrats have a part of the blame here, but to try and pin it on Barney Franks based on his lifestyle choices is just plain wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 the reality is that Frank's blow buddy Herb Moses, who's tenure at Fannie Mae, as well as their relationship, ended in 1998. Paulson, the Federal Reserve, and the SEC have all stated that the current financial crisis "was triggered by a dramatic weakening of underwriting standards for US. subprime mortgages, beginning in late 2004." In late 2005 the House passed a bill to establish a new federal regulator for Fannie, Freddie and the Federal Home Loan Banks. The White House opposed the House bill and announced their support for a forthcoming Senate bill. But the Senate bill never came up for a vote, and the legislation died on the floor. Clearly, the Democrats have a part of the blame here, but to try and pin it on Barney Franks based on his lifestyle choices is just plain wrong. Guys please don't turn this into a thread about Barney Frank. I was having too much fun watching people worship some musician who thinks Nolan Ryan had a really good "speed ball". They were going on and on about how "in touch" he is with America. It is like that book of the Emperor who wore no clothes. He has been named King Bruce and no one has the cajones to tell him it is called a "fastball" because he knows more about America than anyone so he must be right. It really was a laugh riot and you are ruining it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 "Strap your hands 'cross my engines" "He could throw that speed ball by ya....make you look like a fool....." What non-genius could write that? Believe it or not... Not many. Take Guthrie for instance... He probably wrote more songs for young children than other songs. "My Flying Saucer" My flying saucer, where can you be Since that sad night that you sailed away from me? My flying saucer, I pray this night You will sail back before the day gets bright My flying saucer, fly back for home You will get lost in the universe alone My flying saucer, end all my fears Sail back tonight, love and kiss away my tears My flying saucer, I pray this night You will sail back before the day gets bright You will sail back before the day gets bright Now... I think this is great and brilliant because not many can do it effectively... You do think this kind of art work geared toward children is both music and in the written book sense, accredited literature. If not, you are truly living in the pre-1950's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 "Strap your hands 'cross my engines" "He could throw that speed ball by ya....make you look like a fool....." What non-genius could write that? "Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny" My favorite Bruce line. Not original at all, I understand, but it just comes out good in that song. Can anyone name that tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 "Someday we'll look back on this and it will all seem funny" My favorite Bruce line. Not original at all, I understand, but it just comes out good in that song. Can anyone name that tune? Rosalita? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Guys please don't turn this into a thread about Barney Frank. I was having too much fun watching people worship some musician who thinks Nolan Ryan had a really good "speed ball". They were going on and on about how "in touch" he is with America. It is like that book of the Emperor who wore no clothes. He has been named King Bruce and no one has the cajones to tell him it is called a "fastball" because he knows more about America than anyone so he must be right. It really was a laugh riot and you are ruining it. oops you're right, I couldn't resist jamming truth into the mudslinging. Carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson_golden2002 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Rosalita? ding ding ding!!! Right on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 You do think this kind of art work geared toward children is both music and in the written book sense, accredited literature. If not, you are truly living in the pre-1950's. Can you run that by me again in English? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Can you run that by me again in English? I think he's saying that compared to Woody Guthrie, Springsteen is a Jersey hack. I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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