Lurker Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Did McCain vote for this? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 There shouldn't be a bailout, there is no need for it. Buy the bad credit AT COST. There should be a price for screwing up, there is for everyone else. Huh? The Treasury will be buying this stuff for pennies on the dollar. What do you mean by 'cost?' Surely, not the book value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 How much do you want to bet that most of these were added by the majority party? Sigh... "Rep. Eric Cantor (Va.), a top GOP vote counter, said the Senate's decision to add a package of tax breaks worth $108 billion next year for businesses and families was attracting Republican votes." Sigh 2... "And he voted for it anyway..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiew Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 This whole thing just makes me want to puke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted October 3, 2008 Author Share Posted October 3, 2008 Wrong, the proposal was an outline of 3 or 4 pages wrong. Referencing all the previous law and changes that outline causes creates at least 3-400 pages. This is a B.S. statement. The rest I agree with but frame it right. You got something right for a change. Well done. The original bill was 106 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Did you say something about getting fleeced? So in short we have the most blatant example in history of the outright bribery that occurs in Congress to get people to vote a certain way. And the country's reaction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erynthered Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 I didnt see this posted so I'll just throw this here. Here's the PDF of the Bill. As you'll see the Bill had to be placed into another Bill because it started in the Senate. http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/AYO08C32_xml.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuckincincy Posted October 3, 2008 Share Posted October 3, 2008 Did McCain vote for this? As well as Obama. Here's the tote board... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26953481/ Nice pic of Sen Majority Leader Reid...mouth open to divert attention from his grabbing hand, three cohorts staring straight ahead to affix the attention of the victim. Con Artistry 101... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 P.S. That $49 million is for AK fisherman, wonder how Palin feels about the pork for her state? but it could benefit Palin's husband... Conflict of interest, I wonder. I'm just questioning why everyone's calling some of these tax-breaks for American companies 'pork'? 'Pork' in the common parlance is direct Congressional spending for various and sundry projects of dubious nature. I haven't read in breadth or depth all of what's contained in the bill and frankly, I don't want to. But since all sources are describing this $110M add-in as "tax breaks," I'm not having that hard a time over it. Tax breaks are something that actually help businesses grow. For all of you here on PPP who regularly ride on Congress' breasts for TAXES=BAD, I can't say I'm surprised that now some people have gotten tax breaks, you're vocal against them b/c it might not be a break that you personally benefit from. Screw Joe who owns the wool company and now might not have to lay off workers, huh? Now, if you want to call these items the grease that allowed the real $700B pork package to fit through the door (getting some 'yes' votes from Repubs, who usually only say they want to cut taxes...), well, you can go ahead. I'm not contesting that point. These tax cuts also seem to be targeted to American production companies. I've been saying on these forums for a long time that it portended of bad things that we don't really produce tangible things in America anymore, our economy is basically just a circle-jerk of service, American Idol wannabes, and retail (selling other countries wares on credit adding up to a truly staggering trade deficit) jobs along with some financial jobs (which other countries were increasingly learning and doing themselves rather than giving their money to America to control and hoping for some return). So the financial sector took a hit. Wow. Imagine that. Didn't see that one coming! Financial sectors hitting the skids and now Congress thinks it's a good time to throw a bone to some production industries where we might be able to produce and sell some crap to other countries. Wool industry. Toy arrows (I don't get this, but, what the hell do I know about their business?), Alaska fisheries (big market in Asia for seafood), etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Who could've guessed this would happen? Ah-nold Has His Hand Out to Hank: Brother, Can You Spare $7B? Same deal with all the crap mail we get. Gave to the USO one time b/c I thought they did a good service for our troops... and ever since, we get 1000 times the sh-- from Arbor Day, Doctors Without Borders, ACLU, Paralyzed Veterans of America, Disabled Veterans of America, MDA, The Second Amendment Foundation, World Wildlife Fund, Sierra Club, the Christian children fund that on teevee all the time, Make-a-Wish, Salvation Army.... this could probably go on ad nauseum if I remembered more of the groups. (I will never give money to any of these f--kers again.) Point is, give money to one, and then EVERYONE comes looking for a dollar b/c it's like having the word 'SUCKER' in neon lights above your head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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