billnutinphoenix Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 When Obama doesn't get us out of this financial mess, he won't be able to vote present, raise taxes, blame anyone else, or give a speech about hope and change...I think this is the donkeys year, but watch out in 2010 with the Congressional elections and 2012 with Palin as the nominee...
billnutinphoenix Posted October 3, 2008 Author Posted October 3, 2008 You drunk? Stop making threads I don't drink thank you...just steamed that I can't believe we are moving toward Socialism!
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I don't drink thank you...just steamed that I can't believe we are moving toward Socialism! Sorry Palin will disappear into the vast wilderness of Alaska probably keeping an eye on the Russians.
billnutinphoenix Posted October 3, 2008 Author Posted October 3, 2008 Sorry Palin will disappear into the vast wilderness of Alaska probably keeping an eye on the Russians. better hope so if your man fails!
SDS Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Actually, you make some very good points. With the financial mess we are in - the next President is not going to hit the ground running. They are going to have a steel ball around their ankle. The question is - what will the state of the economy be in 4 years? Or even 2 years for that matter? Ask Bill Clinton what the 1st two years of a presidency can do to you. Now, I'm not going to make any kind of prediction, but a protracted economic mess is the perfect setup for a 1 term president. As for Palin 2012. Too soon. 1st, we have to see what the outcome of this election is going to be. If she loses, the next question is if she liked the national stage or despised it. She didn't seek the VP position - she was asked. The question now becomes, does she want more? If she loses, but wants more - 2012 is far too soon for her and maybe 2016 is so far out, she'll be long forgotten. However, anyone who doesn't see the talent (as raw as it may be) is a fool. I suspect she'll do her governor thing and then rake in money from speeches until someone new comes along. I don't have a sense that she's had plans to do anything beyond making a difference in her corner of the world.
drnykterstein Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 better hope so if your man fails! like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG1aOORf8Pc&NR=1
UConn James Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 If she loses, but wants more - 2012 is far too soon for her and maybe 2016 is so far out, she'll be long forgotten. However, anyone who doesn't see the talent (as raw as it may be) is a fool. I suspect she'll do her governor thing and then rake in money from speeches until someone new comes along. I don't have a sense that she's had plans to do anything beyond making a difference in her corner of the world. If JMac loses, she's set to be a gov. --- or senator to gain/maintain DC experience and national visibility --- for as long as terms limits allow until, and if, she decides to make her own run.
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 If JMac loses, she's set to be a gov. --- or senator to gain/maintain DC experience and national visibility --- for as long as terms limits allow until, and if, she decides to make her own run. If Stevens gets ousted as part of his legal issue could she actually appoint herself to the senate? Not sure what the rules in Alaska are and not sure any sitting Gov ever named themselves a senator?
pBills Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 If it's Palin in 2012, then that means I have four years to get my crap together and move to Canada.
Dr. Fong Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 You're dreaming. This is the death of her political career on the national stage.
KD in CA Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 With the financial mess we are in - the next President is not going to hit the ground running. They are going to have a steel ball around their ankle. The question is - what will the state of the economy be in 4 years? Or even 2 years for that matter? Ask Bill Clinton what the 1st two years of a presidency can do to you. Good point. An Obama victory might be exactly what the GOP needs to start making a comeback in Congress in '10.
pBills Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Just what we need the republicans to take over Congress again.
KD in CA Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Just what we need the republicans to take over Congress again. It would certainly limit the damage that Obama could do.
TPS Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 However, anyone who doesn't see the talent (as raw as it may be) is a fool. Yes, she has talent. Linda Lovelace had talent too....
PastaJoe Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Of course if we hit rock bottom in the next year, and then we make slow but steady progress in recovering over the next 4 years, then Obama will be able to claim he brought the country back from an economic crisis, and why mess with success and elect someone from the party that got us there in the first place. I expect Palin and family to be offered a celebreality show, maybe Palin Snows Best. The pregnant daughter and boyfriend will be the next Britney Spears and Kevin Federline story.
John Adams Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 I don't drink thank you...just steamed that I can't believe we are moving toward Socialism! Thanks to Bush.
Ramius Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Just what we need the republicans to take over Congress again. The country is best served with the white house and congress being controlled by opposite parties. Then they actually have to work to get things done, instead of passing whatever little whim the controlling party feels like. I actually hope Palin doesn't plan to run for high level office in DC, because that would severely diminish her chances of posing for playboy.
IDBillzFan Posted October 3, 2008 Posted October 3, 2008 Or hinder the good he would do. So the Democratic-controlled congress is hindering the good Bush could do? I appreciate that admission. It must've hurt.
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