Long Time Fan Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 He reminds me of a more visible "Howard Hughes" a man who was once very important, relavant amd powerful but who has lost touch with reality. Senility?, Certainly he has the right to fire any of his employees , as he has done so many times in recent past, but to refuse to honor the balance of the contract is ludicrus. The man needs "professional" help.
truth on hold Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Said he's been fired for "cause." If that holds up means Davis doesn't have to pay him his remaining contact. That's a serious charge and Davis will have to prove some serious negligence or wrongdoing to make it stick. Personally I think the guy has completely lost it ... he's senile and crazy. Team seems doomed until he sells the team or croaks.
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 did anyone catch him accuse Kiffin of lying? he said it once near the end...
Albany,n.y. Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Davis is not senile! He knows what he's doing. Why is it that when anyone who is Davis' age says something that younger people disagree with, they declare him senile? Do you know what Davis is suffering from? -79 years of power and arrogance, thinking he can say or do anything he wants to and get away with it-that's a far cry from senility. Plenty of younger people act the same way-you can find a lot of them in Washington, DC.
WellDressed Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Personally, I like Lane; how much money did the Rhinestone Cowboy stroon away at FA?? Now he won't pay a man who earned every bit of his money??
extrahammer Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 How motivating it must be for Raider fans when he said "And we will be back, the Raiders will be back.." Like their glory years just happened...
HopsGuy Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Speaking of bailouts, Ralph Wilson bailed out the Raiders. Link See the 7th bullet point. Ralph should have let them die.
Boomer860 Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 As much as I dislike Davis , he owns the team and can do what he likes with the team. If I was James Lofton I would turn down the offer to be head coach. Lofton likes warm weather and at one time lived in Texas and still might .I am sure James will get his chance to be a head coach at a place of his choosing. Gruden and Shanahan ended up pretty well after leaving the Raiders. Thanks to Davis ,whatever the reason , Kiffin, an unknown , has been brought on the national stage. But the best part is THE BILLS 4 -0 YEA!!!! GO BILLS
kegtapr Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Why coaches continue to accept a job from that man is beyond me. How do people not see when they are being set up for failure?
scribo Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 So Tom Cable is the new head coach. Mercury News Columnist Tim Kawakami reports... Meanwhile, Davis showed no outward familiarity with his offensive-line coach at all. Why would he act warmly? Al barely knows Cable.
gobillsinytown Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 The Raiders may become the first NFL team to have a hard time finding coaches to come work for them. Most coaches at the college and pro level and ultra confident guys, who think they can turn around any program. But I'd bet they're having a hard time getting quality candidates. I can't see why anyone would want to "coach" this team, when the real "coach" is sitting up in the luxury box.
murra Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 The Raiders may become the first NFL team to have a hard time finding coaches to come work for them. Most coaches at the college and pro level and ultra confident guys, who think they can turn around any program. But I'd bet they're having a hard time getting quality candidates. I can't see why anyone would want to "coach" this team, when the real "coach" is sitting up in the luxury box. Have you heard of this thing called money? Trust me, they will be able to bring up almost any of the collegiate coaches looking for their break to the big leagues...
The Avenger Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 I listened to Al's press conference almost in its entirety last night on Sirius, and it was quite the spectical. I've never seen anything that unprofessional in my life. Now there may be bad blood between Dvis and Kiffin, but you don't fire a guy and then spend an hour in front of the media detailing all the things that you hate about him and telling stories about what happened behind closed doors and in private conversations. You don't like him, fine - fire the guy and release a statement that he has been fired and the the organization is going in a new direction. If asked why he was fired "for cause" and what lead to that, simply say that you aren't going to comment on such things. By rambling on and giving his side of the story for an hour and putting all the blame on Kiffin I really felt that Davis was hiding from and refusing to take any accountability for the situation. Arguments are never 1 sided - I'm sure not everything Davis said was true. He tried to blame all the personnel decisions on Kiffin, including letting Randy Moss go for a 4th round pick and then pointing out the gaudy 20+ TDs Randy caught last year. Hello - ever think that Moss had great numbers because he had a great supporting cast and possibly the best QB in the league throwing to him? Who was going to throw Moss 20+ TDs in Oakland? Complete inability to see reality. In the end Davis owns the team and can do what he wants, but yesterday he showed he is unprofessional, vindictive, unable to shoulder any blame and living in an alternate reality - it was almost comical to hear.
John in VA Beach Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 This raiders team is trying to turn the corner. But a few of Kiffin's quotes made it sound like he was daring Davis to fire him. If I owned a team I wouldn't take that.
Lurker Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 "Fired for cause...." IIRC, didn't an owner near and dear to us try that once with Son of Bum. It took legal action for the remaining salary to be finally paid out, I believe .
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Have you heard of this thing called money? Trust me, they will be able to bring up almost any of the collegiate coaches looking for their break to the big leagues... that is part of gobillsinytown's point; Davis's reputation as hiring, meddling, firing "with cause" and not paying means that thing called 'no money' will result Kiffin might win in court, but Shanahan lost that fight a few years ago. Things have changed somewhat since then, but so far it's Davis 1 - Fired Coaches 0
murra Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 that is part of gobillsinytown's point; Davis's reputation as hiring, meddling, firing "with cause" and not paying means that thing called 'no money' will result Kiffin might win in court, but Shanahan lost that fight a few years ago. Things have changed somewhat since then, but so far it's Davis 1 - Fired Coaches 0 It's unlikely that Kiffin will not be paid. If that's the case, then he clearly did something irrefutably evil.
dave mcbride Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 How motivating it must be for Raider fans when he said "And we will be back, the Raiders will be back.." Like their glory years just happened... Um, they did make the Super Bowl five years ago, and could have made it the year before if not for an atrocious call. And they made they made the championship game the year before that (and lost in part because of a truly dirty play by Tony Siragusa). That's more than can be said for the Bills and many other teams ...
kota Posted October 1, 2008 Posted October 1, 2008 Last i checked Lane Kiffin doesn't sign the contracts or paychecks. If Al Davis is blaming Lane for his poor management of players he is nuts. The Raiders General Manager is Al Davis.
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