The Dean Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Right now, it's no biggie. I expect he will learn from these mistakes. But (and this isn't to excuse Hardy) the end zone pass wasn't thrown the way it should have been. It was very catchable, and Hardy should have used his body better to bring it in, but, Trent should have tossed that ball higher so that only Hardy could get a hand on it. The WR coaches now have to get down to business with Mr. Hardy to teach him to be a legit WR in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I figured that a guy that put up the numbers that Hardy did in college would know how to use his body to screen the defender a little better... He knows how, it's just that now he's not playing against future insurance salesmen from Northwestern U. The talent is there, but he'll have to learn to play stronger and meaner against this caliber of opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Duke Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 He knows how, it's just that now he's not playing against future insurance salesmen from Northwestern U. The talent is there, but he'll have to learn to play stronger and meaner against this caliber of opponent. You are clearly a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 You are clearly a racist. I'm not a racist, I hate everybody! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Duke Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I'm not a racist, I hate everybody! Good. You are the first person on this board whom I respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Right now, it's no biggie. I expect he will learn from these mistakes. But (and this isn't to excuse Hardy) the end zone pass wasn't thrown the way it should have been. It was very catchable, and Hardy should have used his body better to bring it in, but, Trent should have tossed that ball higher so that only Hardy could get a hand on it. Yep, it should have been higher, while the first one was too high. The 2nd incompletion to Hardy looked like a miscommunication on the route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Duke Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Yep, it should have been higher, while the first one was too high. The 2nd incompletion to Hardy looked like a miscommunication on the route. Here's another miscommunication: your brain to your fingertips. Obviously your post encountered a fatal error. If the ball hits you in the hands, you should catch it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 yup...he can join Yobouty who the Bills should have cut or traded this offseason...err...wait a minute...who was that making big time tackle after big time tackle?? Wasn't that Yobouty?? Where did HE come from?? we traded him i thought? for ham sandwhich i think waas the best offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyrite Gal Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 EXCUSES EXCUSES EXCUSES REASONS REASONS REASONS They do not become excuses until he plays a period of time in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Here's another miscommunication: your brain to your fingertips. Obviously your post encountered a fatal error. If the ball hits you in the hands, you should catch it. I'm sure it's that simple in your world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Frog Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Reed and Parrish are nice slot guys but nothing more. The fact that we don't have a legit #2 receiver opposite Lee Evans is going to bite us in the a$$ soon. I'm surprised it hasn't yet. Outisde the TD catch against Jax, Hardy has shown absolutely nothing. I don't buy into the rookie WR excuse. Good players manifest themselves immediately, and we haven't heard a peep from Hardy with the season 1/4 over. Lord help us if Lee goes down. True that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randolph Duke Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I'm sure it's that simple in your world. Yes, I am a simple knave. I think that if you are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to catch an inflated pigskin, then perhaps, you should catch that inflated pigskin when it hits you in the hands. I guess I'm old fashioned and simple that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownments22 Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 I'm sure it's that simple in your world. While it may have been a rude way to say it, he has a point. While not all balls that hit you in the hand should be caught per se, all balls that hit you in the hands could be caught, and I'm sure that any WR in the NFL would agree to that. I'm pretty sure all 4 of those balls hit Hardy in the hands today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 I'm pretty sure all 4 of those balls hit Hardy in the hands today. I don't think he touched the Z-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Guy is retarted... hopefully he catches on soon, its his job. All 5 balls were catchable for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOR Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 While it may have been a rude way to say it, he has a point. While not all balls that hit you in the hand should be caught per se, all balls that hit you in the hands could be caught, and I'm sure that any WR in the NFL would agree to that. I'm pretty sure all 4 of those balls hit Hardy in the hands today. As Simon mentions, he didn't get his hands on the Z-out. The first pass was with him in full stretch and the ball glanced off his fingertips. And on the fade, the defender played it perfectly because the pass wasn't high enough. The point being, Trent and James need to work together more. Trent already seems to be in-synch with Lee and Josh, and without Roscoe for another 4-6 weeks, James is the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clownments22 Posted September 29, 2008 Author Share Posted September 29, 2008 As Simon mentions, he didn't get his hands on the Z-out. The first pass was with him in full stretch and the ball glanced off his fingertips. And on the fade, the defender played it perfectly because the pass wasn't high enough. The point being, Trent and James need to work together more. Trent already seems to be in-synch with Lee and Josh, and without Roscoe for another 4-6 weeks, James is the man. Great post. Your memory is better than mine. I know James is going to be great, I'm just lamenting over what could have been huge for him and for our team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ax4782 Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Guy is retarted... hopefully he catches on soon, its his job. All 5 balls were catchable for sure. I'd say, actually, two of them were arguably "catchable," in that it was likely all Hardy's fault for not bringing the ball in. One of these was a bit over thrown by Trent and would have required a very good effort to bring in the ball. The two down the field throws that were to Hardy, one was thrown way out of bounds and he had no chance at, and on the other, he might have been able to catch the ball had #22 not been grabbing his arm and yanking on his jersey. Sorry, but to say that all of them were catchable is a bit of a stretch. As for it "being his job," that is a true statement, sure enough. But the problem is, one of the hardest transitions to make is from WR in college to WR in the NFL. The schemes and routes are different and the plays and timing are much faster. It takes every receiver at least a season to get acclimated. For proof, check out the first year stats of Andre Reed, Lee Evans, Josh Reed, and then look at them for most of the better guys who have played in this league. The majority of them have poor first and mediocre second season stats. Not all, but most. Hardy will get better as he sees more playing time and more passes thrown his way. More importantly, he will improve with more practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobillsinytown Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Reed and Parrish are nice slot guys but nothing more. The fact that we don't have a legit #2 receiver opposite Lee Evans is going to bite us in the a$$ soon. I'm surprised it hasn't yet. Outisde the TD catch against Jax, Hardy has shown absolutely nothing. I don't buy into the rookie WR excuse. Good players manifest themselves immediately, and we haven't heard a peep from Hardy with the season 1/4 over. Lord help us if Lee goes down. I think that Trent probably shouldn't have trown that TD pass to him in Jax, because he's not a good player who can't manifest himself immediately. I agree. He should be cut now or have his game check taken away. Sorry excuse for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted September 29, 2008 Share Posted September 29, 2008 Guy is retarted... hopefully he catches on soon, its his job. All 5 balls were catchable for sure. No, he's a rookie. Hopefully he learns from this and improves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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