Chilly Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Perhaps I saw the play incorrectly, but I haven't seen anyone on here mention it. I thought the McKelvin play was helmet to helmet, as did the people I was watching with. If so, will he be suspended? I'd have to lose both McCorners for the Arizona game, that spells trouble.
Lori Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 No penalty, so I doubt it. Plus, for a rookie to get suspended for a first offense, I think he'd probably have to pull out a knife and stab somebody.
ndirish1978 Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 It's only illegal if he LEADS with his helmet and he did not.
deep2evans Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Looker was not really in a defenseless position, it was more of a typical collision. I highly highly doubt it.
BUFFALOTONE Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Its football, not patty cake. They are allowed to hit each other.
Chilly Posted September 29, 2008 Author Posted September 29, 2008 Thanks. I must have seen it incorrectly (and unfortunately, they didn't show many replays - I was watching another game during the one they showed).
jarthur31 Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Its football, not patty cake. They are allowed to hit each other. It's not really football until you see at least 1 guy bleeding.
lets_go_bills Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 No way! That was a clean hit and a beauty. I look forward to more of that from him. He absolutely hammered Looker and made a great play.
ieatcrayonz Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 No penalty, so I doubt it. Plus, for a rookie to get suspended for a first offense, I think he'd probably have to pull out a knife and stab somebody. Hardy didn't get suspended so it has to be even more than that.
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Looker was not really in a defenseless position, There's the key right there.
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Looked to me like McClobber led with his shoulder...a perfectly timed and delivered hit, I'd say. See, this is what you get when Uncle Donte takes you under his personal tutelage.
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 There's the key right there. Yeah, didn't I see Looker brace for the hit as he saw it coming out of the corner of his eye?
The Senator Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Its football, not patty cake. They are allowed to hit each other. I'll take my crusade elsewhere......
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Yeah, didn't I see Looker brace for the hit as he saw it coming out of the corner of his eye? He might have but even if he didn't I don't think that not seeing a tackler while you're carrying the ball falls under the definition of defenseless. I think it's a pretty narrow definition in that it only seems to apply to WR's who are extended while trying to go up for a ball. The guy who busted Boldin today will likely be busting out the checkbook this week.
Bleed Bills Blue Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 The guy who busted Boldin today will likely be busting out the checkbook this week. And that it as it should be. That appeared to be an intentional helmet to helmet shot. The MV squared of a fast-moving defender's helmet is a lot of energy to land on a stationary object.
Pyrite Gal Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 Perhaps I saw the play incorrectly, but I haven't seen anyone on here mention it. I thought the McKelvin play was helmet to helmet, as did the people I was watching with. If so, will he be suspended? I'd have to lose both McCorners for the Arizona game, that spells trouble. In addition to other folks seeing it differently and that he was not penalized for the hit, even if though some oddity he was suspended he has the ability to appeal his suspension which the Bills would certainly encourage him to do if they needed another CB next week. I doubt he will be suspended or even fined and even if he is we can handle this for a week.
NicholasCal1 Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 i didn't think there was anything wrong with the hit.
Simon Posted September 29, 2008 Posted September 29, 2008 And that it as it should be. That appeared to be an intentional helmet to helmet shot. The MV squared of a fast-moving defender's helmet is a lot of energy to land on a stationary object. I understand it's rough stuff out there but I've been a little uncomfortable with how quickly the league is willing to throw around fines and suspensions any time a WR gets popped downfield. These guys are moving at high speed and making a variety of last minute adjustments on the ball and to the coverage. I think a lot of these fines and penalties are unjustified simply because there is no way any defender could intentionally hit a moving target the size of a helmet when he himself is already moving at a borderline out of control speed. Not every helmet-to-helmet shot is intentional or deserves punishment.
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