Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I have no issue with a loose time line. But, more important that any date, is the overwhelming sense and acknowledgment that we are in the end stages of the war. We should be actively working toward the removal of our troops. I mean no disrespect to you Deano and I realize this is a very touchy subject for many Americans. My little niece just joined the army 3 months ago, she's young, beautiful and she still has her whole life ahead of her. I don't want to see her go to Iraq, but when I brought up the subject to her and asked her if she would want to go there, she said if thats where my country needs me, then yes, its where I want to go. So its hard for me to see my family members put in harms way, but she understands the situation in Iraq, she knew before she joined and she's OK with it. I'm very,very proud of her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I mean no disrespect to you Deano and I realize this is a very touchy subject for many Americans. My little niece just joined the army 3 months ago, she's young, beautiful and she still has her whole life ahead of her. I don't want to see her go to Iraq, but when I brought up the subject to her and asked her if she would want to go there, she said if thats where my country needs me, then yes, its where I want to go. So its hard for me to see my family members put in harms way, but she understands the situation in Iraq, she knew before she joined and she's OK with it. I'm very,very proud of her. As you should be. I respect people who join the military and, if it is required, risk their lives for the country. I don't hold them responsible for the mistake of our leaders (Dem and Rep, conservative and liberal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 McCain already has a commercial out (within about 15-20 minutes of teh end of the debate) with several of Obama's "I agree with Senator McCain..." statements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 McCain already has a commercial out (within about 15-20 minutes of teh end of the debate) with several of Obama's "I agree with Senator McCain..." statements. I agree that you're right. But you're not right enough! Obama = Pepsi = Blue Logo McCain = Coke = Red Logo Obama vs McCain = Coke vs Pepsi Same general formula with a little different flavor But MY brand is better than YOURS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I mean no disrespect to you Deano and I realize this is a very touchy subject for many Americans. My little niece just joined the army 3 months ago, she's young, beautiful and she still has her whole life ahead of her. I don't want to see her go to Iraq, but when I brought up the subject to her and asked her if she would want to go there, she said if thats where my country needs me, then yes, its where I want to go. So its hard for me to see my family members put in harms way, but she understands the situation in Iraq, she knew before she joined and she's OK with it. I'm very,very proud of her. I'm not exactly sure what this has to do with anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 McCain already has a commercial out (within about 15-20 minutes of teh end of the debate) with several of Obama's "I agree with Senator McCain..." statements. If it wasn't for the fact that this country elected Bush, and then RE-ELECTED HIM, I could never believe McCain would have any shot in the world of winning this election. As it stands now, I almost expect him to win. Really, doesn't Obama just seem more like the old fashioned kind of scumbag politician that got this country through the 70's and 80's and 90's? Instead of the new, unbelievably delusional, wacko/lunatic style politician of the new millennium? Can't decide if we should get back to our roots or push forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 If it wasn't for the fact that this country elected Bush, and then RE-ELECTED HIM, I could never believe McCain would have any shot in the world of winning this election. As it stands now, I almost expect him to win. Really, doesn't Obama just seem more like the old fashioned kind of scumbag politician this that got this country through the 70's and 80's and 90's? Instead of the new unbelievably delusional, wacko style politician of the new millennium? Can't decide if we should get back to our roots or push forward. Crawl under a rock buddy, the world will be a better place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Crawl under a rock buddy, maybe the world will be a better place. You should have responded to my other post, which was obviously what you took offense to. But really I didn't mean any offense. I just didn't understand what point you were trying to make. Was it that people in the military don't mind being deployed to Iraq? That we should support the troops no matter what we think of the candidates? Something else entirely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 You should have responded to my other post, which was obviously what you took offense to. But really I didn't mean any offense. I just didn't understand what point you were trying to make. Was it that people in the military don't mind being deployed to Iraq? That we should support the troops no matter what we think of the candidates? Something else entirely? I was responding to a fellow board member who's opinion I've grown to respect. Honestly, I could care less what you think so draw your own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Really, doesn't Obama just seem more like the old fashioned kind of scumbag politician this that got this country through the 70's and 80's and 90's? Instead of the new unbelievably delusional, wacko style politician of the new millennium? Change you can believe in The only politician who has been hones with the voters is Ron Paul. But he tells us what we don't want to hear War Hero = Sparkles! Change = Sunshine! Gold Standard and perils of deficit spending, too much credit, over extended empire = Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acantha Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I was responding to a fellow board member who's opinion I've grown to respect. Honestly, I could care less what you think so draw your own conclusions. Then next time either PM him or ignore me. I simply asked what you meant when you posted on a public message board, and somehow I'm the bad guy who should crawl under a rock to make the world a better place. Whatever. Best wishes to your niece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Then next time either PM him or ignore me. I simply asked what you meant when you posted on a public message board, and somehow I'm the bad guy who should crawl under a rock to make the world a better place. Whatever. Best wishes to your niece. I mean no disrespect to you Deano and I realize this is a very touchy subject for many Americans. Thanks for saying as much Faustus, no hard feelings. I was just trying to convey that the issue really hits close to home for all of us in one way or another, thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 All I know is that if the democrats lose this election they should just detonate their entire party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 All I know is that if the democrats lose this election they should just detonate their entire party. I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. -Will Rogers If the Democrats somehow find a way to lose this giftwrapped election, they should disband the party and vow never to speak to one another again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat. -Will Rogers If the Democrats somehow find a way to lose this giftwrapped election, they should disband the party and vow never to speak to one another again They could not beat Bush. Shouldn't that have been grounds for the Dem's to hang it up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Obama + Mcain = Inadequate Obama is exceptionally dumb. Only one way to go and it's too late. Ron Paul. A true conservative Republican.Only hope Ive never been more sure of anything. I really am afraid for this country with the choices we have. I think I want to move to the Pacific Rim where they have their sh-- together I just hope there are no riots out of Oaktown if Obama doesn't win. That would be scary shite in these parts And oh yeah... GO SHARKS BABY!!!! Boyes + Blake = Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Unfortunately Obama won't (or feels he can't) point out the truth about the was in Iraq, and McCain's approached to foreign affairs. McCain still thinks about these problems in the old way, of fighting nations. He is oblivious that, the reason Iraq is a hotbed of terrorist activity is BECAUSE we took down Sadam, and had not strategy to handle the aftermath. Most importantly, though, nobody bothered to ask McCain what constitutes a "Win" in Iraq. How do we know when we've won? There is nobody to officially surrender. We win when we leave. Of course our enemies will say they won when we leave, but they will do so WHENEVER we decide to leave. If he thinks that the US needs to stay actively combative in Iraq, until there is peace among all Iraqis, then he is in for one long conflict. Originally, I was told that we were at war with Iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction (they didn't: check), to take down Sadam (mission accomplished: check) and establish democratic self-rule in Iraq (check). Didn't we already do what we were supposed to do? Obama constantly mentioned that he was RIGHT about not going in the first place. over and over and over.While I do not support Obama--I think he did a good job debating...and that it was pretty much a tie. No one is gonna change their vote based on this debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 I agree that you're right. But you're not right enough! Obama = Pepsi = Blue Logo McCain = Coke = Red Logo Obama vs McCain = Coke vs Pepsi Same general formula with a little different flavor But MY brand is better than YOURS! Things go better with Coke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 Things go better with Coke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 This one make me think 'Ralph Steadman'... link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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