SouthernMan Posted September 23, 2008 Share Posted September 23, 2008 Remember when Ted Marchibroda discovered that the Bills' offense operated better at a faster pace? This happened when he witnessed how efficient Kelly & Co. were in the 2 minute offense. I think this fit well with Kelly's instinctive, not-so-patient temperment. After seeing Edwards & Co. do the same playing catchup these last couple of weeks, I wonder if the coaching staff will consider utililizing this tactic as a change of pace tool. Edwards, like Kelly, seems to run better at a faster pace. Edwards numbers for the 4th qtr were through the roof. I'd love to see them come out with the no huddle in St Louis and see if they can can grab a quick lead, then, slow it down and eat clock with the run game. If it suceeded, it could also take the crowd out it and force Green to throw. What better place to try it than in a dome where Edward's pinpoint passes could cripple the opposition. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooshocker Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 The human head weighs 8 pounds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GASH STATION Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Remember when Ted Marchibroda discovered that the Bills' offense operated better at a faster pace? This happened when he witnessed how efficient Kelly & Co. were in the 2 minute offense. I think this fit well with Kelly's instinctive, not-so-patient temperment. After seeing Edwards & Co. do the same playing catchup these last couple of weeks, I wonder if the coaching staff will consider utililizing this tactic as a change of pace tool. Edwards, like Kelly, seems to run better at a faster pace. Edwards numbers for the 4th qtr were through the roof. I'd love to see them come out with the no huddle in St Louis and see if they can can grab a quick lead, then, slow it down and eat clock with the run game. If it suceeded, it could also take the crowd out it and force Green to throw. What better place to try it than in a dome where Edward's pinpoint passes could cripple the opposition. Thoughts? I thought the same thing as the Bills mounted the comeback.. Only drawback is if it doesnt work you get a lot of three and outs.. Seems like the TURK likes to keep the opposition guessing so I wouldn't put it past him to mix it up as you suggest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEAST MODE BABY! Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 The human head weighs 8 pounds! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ1 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I thought the same thing as the Bills mounted the comeback..Only drawback is if it doesnt work you get a lot of three and outs.. Seems like the TURK likes to keep the opposition guessing so I wouldn't put it past him to mix it up as you suggest. Use it sparingly and mix it in as a surprise attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Remember when Ted Marchibroda discovered that the Bills' offense operated better at a faster pace? This happened when he witnessed how efficient Kelly & Co. were in the 2 minute offense. I think this fit well with Kelly's instinctive, not-so-patient temperment. After seeing Edwards & Co. do the same playing catchup these last couple of weeks, I wonder if the coaching staff will consider utililizing this tactic as a change of pace tool. Edwards, like Kelly, seems to run better at a faster pace. Edwards numbers for the 4th qtr were through the roof. I'd love to see them come out with the no huddle in St Louis and see if they can can grab a quick lead, then, slow it down and eat clock with the run game. If it suceeded, it could also take the crowd out it and force Green to throw. What better place to try it than in a dome where Edward's pinpoint passes could cripple the opposition. Thoughts? the Bills did not run the no huddle in the 4th against Jax, did you even watch the game they used it successfully when they needed it, lets leave it at that...I prefer the offense they were running in Jax for the most part, ball control keep the clock moving offense with the occassional big play time of possession and solid defense is as good a formula as there is to winning in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernMan Posted September 24, 2008 Author Share Posted September 24, 2008 the Bills did not run the no huddle in the 4th against Jax, did you even watch the game they used it successfully when they needed it, lets leave it at that...I prefer the offense they were running in Jax for the most part, ball control keep the clock moving offense with the occassional big play time of possession and solid defense is as good a formula as there is to winning in the NFL Yer right, I didn't watch it. I dreamed the whole game the night before so I wouldn't have to waste a Sunday afternoon. Fortunately, I TiVo'd the dream and skipped all the parts where I was flying or couldn't scream. Anyway, all I was suggesting was that perhaps Edwards' style is better suited to a faster pace, rather than taking their good old time in the huddle and shuffling up to the line. I always thought Kelly's natural rhythm fit a faster pace and I think Edwards may fit the same mold. I wouldn't mind seeing something more of a fast break type of offense - not necessarily no-huddle, but faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Remember when Ted Marchibroda discovered that the Bills' offense operated better at a faster pace? This happened when he witnessed how efficient Kelly & Co. were in the 2 minute offense. I think this fit well with Kelly's instinctive, not-so-patient temperment. After seeing Edwards & Co. do the same playing catchup these last couple of weeks, I wonder if the coaching staff will consider utililizing this tactic as a change of pace tool. Edwards, like Kelly, seems to run better at a faster pace. Edwards numbers for the 4th qtr were through the roof. I'd love to see them come out with the no huddle in St Louis and see if they can can grab a quick lead, then, slow it down and eat clock with the run game. If it suceeded, it could also take the crowd out it and force Green to throw. What better place to try it than in a dome where Edward's pinpoint passes could cripple the opposition. Thoughts? My bro and I discussed the same thing and I think its a great idea, I Billieve it disrupts the defense and I also billieve TE may have more success then Jim Kelly did simply because TE 's younger, in better shape and eats the short, high percentage stuff up. You can still sustain a long drive and wear down the opposing defense with proper clock management. TE is smart and could run the no huddle well in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Offside Number 76 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I always have loved the no-huddle offense, and I wouldn't mind seeing it back in Buffalo some day. But by its nature, it depends upon an experienced QB. We don't have one here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max997 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yer right, I didn't watch it. I dreamed the whole game the night before so I wouldn't have to waste a Sunday afternoon. Fortunately, I TiVo'd the dream and skipped all the parts where I was flying or couldn't scream. Anyway, all I was suggesting was that perhaps Edwards' style is better suited to a faster pace, rather than taking their good old time in the huddle and shuffling up to the line. I always thought Kelly's natural rhythm fit a faster pace and I think Edwards may fit the same mold. I wouldn't mind seeing something more of a fast break type of offense - not necessarily no-huddle, but faster. Edwards style worked pretty well the first two games without the no huddle didnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lets_go_bills Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I like things the way they are. I don't forsee the second coming of the K-Gun. It's just good to know and comforting that Trent can operate that Offense very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020 Our Year For Sure Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 the Bills did not run the no huddle in the 4th against Jax, did you even watch the game they used it successfully when they needed it, lets leave it at that...I prefer the offense they were running in Jax for the most part, ball control keep the clock moving offense with the occassional big play time of possession and solid defense is as good a formula as there is to winning in the NFL Our offense now doesn't care about time of possession, they just happen to have a quarterback who excels in the short/intermediate passing game, so thats what they utilize. Its all about scoring points. What coach would worry about whether or not they win the time of possession stat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Yer right, I didn't watch it. I dreamed the whole game the night before so I wouldn't have to waste a Sunday afternoon. Fortunately, I TiVo'd the dream and skipped all the parts where I was flying or couldn't scream. Excellent retort! There's just no civil reason for comments like he made. Many Bills fans are thinking along this line. The Raider D was winded and caused Kifin to let the Bills try a long FG at games end. However, the old K-Gun WAS often the teams' worst enemy and our D back then routinely ranked low because of the time they had to spend on the field. That we have the players to play the scheme, we should -with discretion. Were you naked when flying, or wearin' skivies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthonyF Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Edwards style worked pretty well the first two games without the no huddle didnt it? Actually there were huge gaps where the offense was sputtering and doing nothing. Anyone remember the first quarter vs. Seattle? How about almost nothing after the opening drive 'til the fourth quarter vs. Jacksonville. How about 7 points (on a 23 yard drive) vs. a bad Oakland team 'til the 4th quarter. Very excited about the team, but they are not perfect yet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Playing from behind is a great strategy. I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckeyeBill Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Edwards himself said they switched into a more attacking offense in the 4th quarter during the Raiders game. Going to a no-huddle would switch to that offense before the game even begins. It is a great idea! The problem is (and was) that the no-huddle puts a lot of stress on the defense. If the opposing team has a 15 play drive and score, kick off and we go 3 and out in 20 seconds... that is VERY ROUGH on our defense. Jauron is a ball control coach too... A happy medium needs to be found where the offense is more "attacking" as TE said, but still eat clock to save our defense. If I was coach... I would try hurry up offense at the beginning of the game and see what happens from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagon Circler Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 They definitely should mix in the no-huddle as a change of pace. Trent runs it well, it gets the defense winded, they can't substitute,the D schemes are basic. We have the personnel to line up in the shotgun and wing it. Does our coaching staff have the courage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 Edwards himself said they switched into a more attacking offense in the 4th quarter during the Raiders game. Going to a no-huddle would switch to that offense before the game even begins. It is a great idea! The problem is (and was) that the no-huddle puts a lot of stress on the defense. If the opposing team has a 15 play drive and score, kick off and we go 3 and out in 20 seconds... that is VERY ROUGH on our defense. Jauron is a ball control coach too... A happy medium needs to be found where the offense is more "attacking" as TE said, but still eat clock to save our defense. If I was coach... I would try hurry up offense at the beginning of the game and see what happens from there. Whatever that attacking style is......thats what I want. You use what works and they found something in the forth quarter there. I'm pretty sure they will be putting up some good numbers with Turk calling the shots.....seems to know how to get things done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Friends Call Me Tebucky Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I think the O-line is a little bit too far on the fat side as a whole to get away with going no-huddle all game. Maybe mix it in as a surprise on a series each half...but not all of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted September 24, 2008 Share Posted September 24, 2008 I like things the way they are. I don't forsee the second coming of the K-Gun. It's just good to know and comforting that Trent can operate that Offense very well. "The way we are now" is with an OC that is smart enough and creative enough to try anything he thinks will work. The way we are now is going to be evolving week to week, opponent by opponent, gameday, by gameday. Turk Shonert will make play calling decisions based on film study, merit and having the proper personnel to carry out the play, the way it should be. So don't be surprised if you see the no huddle used as soon as TE becomes comfortable enough with the offense. If Shonert billieves it will help keep our QB from getting pummeled , or help our team win, he's going to use it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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