KD in CA Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Expels Human Rights Watch activists So now Human Rights Watch is a puppet of the Bush administration? Yeah, ok. I know Chavez has some big fans among the left wingers here on PPP (TPS, chicot, etc.), so I'm sure they'll explain why this is a logical and reasonable move and why the Human Rights Watch report has no validity. By the way, here's the article on their findings: Article about the findings in the report As it settles into its 10th year, President Hugo Chávez’s government has consolidated power by eliminating the independence of the judiciary, punishing critical news organizations and engaging in wide-ranging acts of political discrimination against opponents, a human rights group said in a report released on Thursday in Caracas. Yep...Democracy is alive and well in Venezuela!
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I remember when Bush ran for president how people thought he would improve relations with Latin America because he came from Texas and spoke Spanish. That worked out well.
finknottle Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Expels Human Rights Watch activists So now Human Rights Watch is a puppet of the Bush administration? Yeah, ok. I know Chavez has some big fans among the left wingers here on PPP (TPS, chicot, etc.), so I'm sure they'll explain why this is a logical and reasonable move and why the Human Rights Watch report has no validity. By the way, here's the article on their findings: Article about the findings in the report Yep...Democracy is alive and well in Venezuela! I know it is a huge stretch, but the thing that creeps me out about Obamomania is that if a Chavez were ever to come to power here, this is how it would happen. Ride a wave of popularist support, offer popularist policies and lofty visions, promise better times for the masses and demonize the rich, and then demonize the opposition... There have been several reports recently about grassroots Obama organizations taking down the switchboards of local news organization airing opposition commentators...
finknottle Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I remember when Bush ran for president how people thought he would improve relations with Latin America because he came from Texas and spoke Spanish. That worked out well. I think he was sincere and probably would have accomplished something overall had 9-11 not changed his focus. Instead our enemies have festered and are friends have been left hanging by an anti-trade congress...
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I think he was sincere and probably would have accomplished something overall had 9-11 not changed his focus. Instead our enemies have festered and are friends have been left hanging by an anti-trade congress... Freedom tacos!
olivier in france Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Expels Human Rights Watch activists So now Human Rights Watch is a puppet of the Bush administration? Yeah, ok. I know Chavez has some big fans among the left wingers here on PPP (TPS, chicot, )etcurl="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080919/ts_nm/venezuela_rights_dc"] [/url] Article about the findings in the report TPS a Chavez fan? not the TPS i know for sure!
olivier in france Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I remember when Bush ran for president how people thought he would improve relations with Latin America because he came from Texas and spoke Spanish. That worked out well. That looks great for the russian _ american relations!!
Max Fischer Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I know it is a huge stretch, but the thing that creeps me out about Obamomania is that if a Chavez were ever to come to power here, this is how it would happen. Ride a wave of popularist support, offer popularist policies and lofty visions, promise better times for the masses and demonize the rich, and then demonize the opposition... There have been several reports recently about grassroots Obama organizations taking down the switchboards of local news organization airing opposition commentators... "Huge stretch" doesn't even begin to troll the depths of your paranoia.
finknottle Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 "Huge stretch" doesn't even begin to troll the depths of your paranoia. I don't believe it, but I am very troubled by the popularist denial-of-service stuff that has been going on against some media outlets.
blzrul Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I remember when Bush ran for president how people thought he would improve relations with Latin America because he came from Texas and spoke Spanish. That worked out well. PJ - Bush NEVER claimed to speak Spanish. He claimed to speak MEXICAN.
blzrul Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I know it is a huge stretch, but the thing that creeps me out about Obamomania is that if a Chavez were ever to come to power here, this is how it would happen. Ride a wave of popularist support, offer popularist policies and lofty visions, promise better times for the masses and demonize the rich, and then demonize the opposition... There have been several reports recently about grassroots Obama organizations taking down the switchboards of local news organization airing opposition commentators... hhahahahahahahahaha this is RICH. Riding a wave of populist support...like the Hockey Mom and the POW? You know, the self-styled "original Mavericks"? check Promising better times for the masses? Check Demonizing the opposition? Check Grassroots organizations stifling free speech? Check and DOUBLE check, this was perfected by the GOP. I will never understand how people can actually vote for a ticket where one candidate is in lockstep with lobbyists and has an abused his position (Keating 5 anyone) and the other is currently under investigation for abuse of power.
finknottle Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 I will never understand how people can actually vote for a ticket where one candidate is in lockstep with lobbyists and has an abused his position (Keating 5 anyone) and the other is currently under investigation for abuse of power. I know how important the idea of 'innocent until proven guilty' is to you. In the investigation, Keating and John Glenn were cleared of all charges. The other three Democrats were found guilty by the Committee. Have any other abuse innuendo, like say steering big contracts to his wifes hospital, or helping the credit card company his son lobbies for get a bill making personal bankruptcy more difficult?
DC Tom Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 PJ - Bush NEVER claimed to speak Spanish. He claimed to speak MEXICAN. I was wondering about that. The guy barely even speaks English.
finknottle Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 I was wondering about that. The guy barely even speaks English. I don't like his position on immigration, but I think the guy was sincere about strengthing the US-Mexico relationship, and only incidentally motivated by politics.
/dev/null Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 I was wondering about that. The guy barely even speaks English. GW doesn't claim to speak English. He speaks American
Nervous Guy Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 I will never understand how people can actually vote for a ticket where one candidate is in lockstep with lobbyists and has an abused his position (Keating 5 anyone) and the other is currently under investigation for abuse of power. "Joe Biden does not talk much about his son's lobbyist background. Hunter Biden lobbied for clients that paid his firm at least $380,000 in the first six months of this year, federal records show." http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080824...rg/a6qrvqdtzkv4
Alaska Darin Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 "Joe Biden does not talk much about his son's lobbyist background. Hunter Biden lobbied for clients that paid his firm at least $380,000 in the first six months of this year, federal records show." http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080824...rg/a6qrvqdtzkv4 Shutup. Only Republicans do these things. Jesus Christ, people. Wake the !@#$ up.
/dev/null Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 "Joe Biden does not talk much about his son's lobbyist background. Hunter Biden lobbied for clients that paid his firm at least $380,000 in the first six months of this year, federal records show." http://news.yahoo.com/s/bloomberg/20080824...rg/a6qrvqdtzkv4 Give Biden a break, he's been bringing change for the last 30+ years
olivier in france Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 GW doesn't claim to speak English. He speaks American that may explain why i don't understand that new VP candidate you have... i've never learned alaskan at school.
chicot Posted September 23, 2008 Posted September 23, 2008 Expels Human Rights Watch activists So now Human Rights Watch is a puppet of the Bush administration? Yeah, ok. I know Chavez has some big fans among the left wingers here on PPP (TPS, chicot, etc.), so I'm sure they'll explain why this is a logical and reasonable move and why the Human Rights Watch report has no validity. By the way, here's the article on their findings: Article about the findings in the report Yep...Democracy is alive and well in Venezuela! Nope, I'm not going to defend it. I think it's a daft move by Chavez.
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