PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 "She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said Wednesday in an interview. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything." "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people." "I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2835...;u_sid=10435997
molson_golden2002 Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I've got that topped! The Liberal/Commie Wall Street Journal Editorial board is fuming mad at the old fool: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1221783188...days_us_opinion John McCain has made it clear this week he doesn't understand what's happening on Wall Street any better than Barack Obama does. But on Thursday, he took his populist riffing up a notch and found his scapegoat for financial panic -- Christopher Cox, the chairman of the Securities and Exchange Commission...Mr. McCain clearly wants to distance himself from the Bush Administration. But this assault on Mr. Cox is both false and deeply unfair. It's also un-Presidential... While he was at it, Mr. McCain added the wholly unsupported assertion that "speculators pounded the shares of even good companies into the ground." It wasn't very long ago that he blamed speculators on the long side for sky-high oil prices. Then oil prices fell. Now Mr. McCain wants voters to believe speculators are responsible for driving mismanaged financial companies to ruin. The irony is that this critique puts Mr. McCain in the same camp as some of the Wall Street CEOs who have led their firms so poorly. They also want someone (else) to blame. In case Mr. McCain is interested, overall short interest in financial companies actually declined by 20% between July and the end of August. That's right: Far from driving this crisis, shorts were net buyers of financial stocks this summer, as they must buy stocks back to close their positions and realize their gains (or losses). In a crisis, voters want steady, calm leadership, not easy, misleading answers that will do nothing to help. Mr. McCain is sounding like a candidate searching for a political foil rather than a genuine solution. He'll never beat Mr. Obama by running as an angry populist like Al Gore, circa 2000.
DC Tom Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 "She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said Wednesday in an interview. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything." "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people." "I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2835...;u_sid=10435997 First, somebody remind Hagel that SHE'S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! Second...I'm underwhelmed by the demand by a member of the American ruling class that I not consider anyone who isn't a member of the American ruling class.
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Author Posted September 19, 2008 "The irony is that this critique puts Mr. McCain in the same camp as some of the Wall Street CEOs who have led their firms so poorly." Maybe Carly was right, he's not qualified to run a company.
Chilly Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 "The irony is that this critique puts Mr. McCain in the same camp as some of the Wall Street CEOs who have led their firms so poorly." Maybe Carly was right, he's not qualified to run a company. Yeah... I'm pretty sure none of them are....
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Author Posted September 19, 2008 First, somebody remind Hagel that SHE'S NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT! Second...I'm underwhelmed by the demand by a member of the American ruling class that I not consider anyone who isn't a member of the American ruling class. That's like saying the backup driver in an auto race doesn't need to be ready to drive the car, because they're not starting the race.
UBinVA Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 "She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said Wednesday in an interview. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything." "I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, 'I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,'" he said. "That kind of thing is insulting to the American people." "I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States," Hagel said. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_page=2835...;u_sid=10435997 And Obama does? This argument just blows back two fold because Obama is the Presidential Candidate and Palin is the V.P. I've traveled around the world many times over the past 30 years visiting many countries, does that make me more qualified on foreign affairs than someone who hasn't. I think not.
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Author Posted September 19, 2008 And Obama does? This argument just blows back two fold because Obama is the Presidential Candidate and Palin is the V.P. I've traveled around the world many times over the past 30 years visiting many countries, does that make me more qualified on foreign affairs than someone who hasn't. I think not. I'd say you were, if you also were on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, drafted legislation to secure nuclear material, talked about issues with world leaders in those countries, and had been debating foreign policy for the last few years. Not so much if you just started travelling overseas last year.
DC Tom Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 That's like saying the backup driver in an auto race doesn't need to be ready to drive the car, because they're not starting the race. Maybe superficially. But if you actually have half a brain...not really. The VP position isn't just waiting on the bench to come in when the President goes down. And it doesn't change either of my points: Obama's running against McCain, not Palin, and I find it hard to take seriously a quintessential Washington insider complaining that a candidate isn't a quintessential Washington insider. And that's even before I judge his points to be ludicrous...never mind VP, who's the last president we had that was elected with any foreign policy experience?
finknottle Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 I assume that everybody knows that Hagel, despite being a Republican, was in the Obama camp early and was considered a VP candidate. So this is about as earth-shattering as Lieberman attacking the Obama ticket.
molson_golden2002 Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Off with them! I hope they end up in Gantanamo! Why don't they mind their own business! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080919/pl_nm/...litics_obama_dc A group of black protesters holding signs reading "Blacks Against Obama" disrupted Obama's speech in Coral Gables but were drowned out by the crowd's chants of "yes we can." They were led out by police after a brief interruption.
erynthered Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Off with them! I hope they end up in Gantanamo! Why don't they mind their own business! http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080919/pl_nm/...litics_obama_dc Here's the video: http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html
molson_golden2002 Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Here's the video: http://www.breitbart.tv/html/178233.html KKK signs? Are they accusing Obama of being a Klansmen, or are they the Klan?
finknottle Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Wow - they were a lot better behaved than the protesters at the RNC. As far as I can tell they filed out in an orderly manner when asked...
/dev/null Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 or are they the Klan? They look a little tan to be in the Klan Hey, I made a rhyme
PastaJoe Posted September 19, 2008 Author Posted September 19, 2008 Wow - they were a lot better behaved than the protesters at the RNC. As far as I can tell they filed out in an orderly manner when asked... So you're saying liberals are better protesters and don't give up so easily...
Wacka Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Wow - they were a lot better behaved than the protesters at the RNC. As far as I can tell they filed out in an orderly manner when asked... And I bet none of them are big fundraisers for McCain either. Jodie Evans (who was arrested in the RNC convention and is the co-founder of Code Pink) has bundled contributions for the Messiah and was at the $30 K a plate and Babs concert for him the other night in Hollywood. I've noticed how when the Messiah's fans chant, they chant his name, but when McCain/ Palin is cheered for, they shout USA.
Taro T Posted September 19, 2008 Posted September 19, 2008 Maybe superficially. But if you actually have half a brain...not really. The VP position isn't just waiting on the bench to come in when the President goes down. And it doesn't change either of my points: Obama's running against McCain, not Palin, and I find it hard to take seriously a quintessential Washington insider complaining that a candidate isn't a quintessential Washington insider. And that's even before I judge his points to be ludicrous...never mind VP, who's the last president we had that was elected with any foreign policy experience? Uh, that'd be Bush 41.
YellowLinesandArmadillos Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 Maybe superficially. But if you actually have half a brain...not really. The VP position isn't just waiting on the bench to come in when the President goes down. Oh really? Except for Cheney, because of Bush's lack of competence, that is exactly what the VP is. I forget who said this, but it goes something like this... Hello my name is.... Vice President of the United States, shakes the person's hand in front of him and asks what the VP's duties are and is told he just did them. And it doesn't change either of my points: Obama's running against McCain, not Palin, and I find it hard to take seriously a quintessential Washington insider complaining that a candidate isn't a quintessential Washington insider. And that's even before I judge his points to be ludicrous...never mind VP, who's the last president we had that was elected with any foreign policy experience? Ah, and what is McCain??? In fact Hagel has an impressive Vietnam Record and knows a little about the military and foreign policy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Hagel I don't think your argument makes anyone more comfortable with Palin, especially considering McCain's aging health and the toll the Presidency puts on you. Though if they can keep the Dark Lord(Cheney) alive, I suppose they can keep anyone going.
Booster4324 Posted September 20, 2008 Posted September 20, 2008 And I bet none of them are big fundraisers for McCain either. Jodie Evans (who was arrested in the RNC convention and is the co-founder of Code Pink) has bundled contributions for the Messiah and was at the $30 K a plate and Babs concert for him the other night in Hollywood. My zombie master Rush pointed out how the Messiah's fans chant, they chant his name, but when McCain/ Palin is cheered for, they shout USA. Fixed. Mind you, Obama has his Zombies. You however are pathetic as you are the zombie of a self styled entertainer.
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