VOR Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Crowell situation still has me steamed. With him (healthy) in the lineup, the Bills' defense could have been even better. Ellison is decent-enough, but likely not the answer. And it's not like there's a gem waiting in the wings, a la Greer or Jackson last year. Are the Bills best-served sticking with Ellison, or starting JD at MLB and moving Poz to SLB, or something else?
cantankerous Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I'd say stick with Ellison...he's fast, good in pass coverage and is a pretty good tackler. I watched him for years at Oregon State and since he's been with with Bills he's been solid but not spectacular in my opinion.
Kipers Hair Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Bills must like what they have - I do not htink they have brought in anyone for a look...
VOR Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 The Bills must like what they have - I do not htink they have brought in anyone for a look... They haven't. As for "lik[ing] what they have," it could be more that they're satisfied. And anyone new they bring in wouldn't know the system. Again the Crowell situation really screwed them. Arrrrggggghhhh!
WVUFootball29 Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I'd say stick with Ellison...he's fast, good in pass coverage and is a pretty good tackler. I watched him for years at Oregon State and since he's been with with Bills he's been solid but not spectacular in my opinion. Agreed. Solid player, maybe not a starter in most other systems, but seems to fit Fewell's version of the cover 2 nicely. I think he'll do just fine
FluffHead Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 I don't think it is that big of a deal. We seem to favor the nickle package anyway. I'm not sure if that is because of the first two offensive systems we have gone against, or if the coaches consider the nickle as our strongest base defense, but at this point Youboty has been more of a starter than Ellison based on number of plays that each has been out there.
Yoho Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 They haven't. As for "lik[ing] what they have," it could be more that they're satisfied. And anyone new they bring in wouldn't know the system. Again the Crowell situation really screwed them. Arrrrggggghhhh! Yeah. They are number 7 in defense in the league. This is not working at all Charlie Brown.
VOR Posted September 17, 2008 Author Posted September 17, 2008 Yeah. They are number 7 in defense in the league. This is not working at all Charlie Brown. My point wasn't to ask if it's working, since obviously it is. I was asking if it could work better.
Bflojohn Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Pure speculation since we now know that Crowell would have entered the season wounded! A healthy Ellison or a injury question mark in Crowell? Who really knows other than the Bills medical staff?
ans4e64 Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 IF the Bills decided to change things up and put DiGiorgio in, I don't think they'd move Poz over. I think DiGi would just slide into Ellison's spot.
Yoho Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 My point wasn't to ask if it's working, since obviously it is. I was asking if it could work better. I think it was the "arrrgggggghhhhhh" that threw me.
Yoho Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 Yeah. They are number 7 in defense in the league. This is not working at all Charlie Brown. And "the Crowell situation really screwed them" part
Simon Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Raiders seem to be fairly effective running off-tackle last week. And Ellison has always been a pussycat when to comes to holding the POA. Unless the Bills are willing to sacrifice some passrush against a rookie QB in order to protect Ellison, this could be the week where we really find out how much we're going to miss Crowell. If this is a heavy topic of conversation next Monday, we may have something to worry about.
webtoe Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Crowell situation still has me steamed. With him (healthy) in the lineup, the Bills' defense could have been even better. Well, the fact is that Crowell would not be in the line-up this weekend anyways. I like Ellison, and feel that if the powers that be thought Crowell was that much better, they would have had a different approach to his injury situation.
Big Turk Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Crowell situation still has me steamed. With him (healthy) in the lineup, the Bills' defense could have been even better. Ellison is decent-enough, but likely not the answer. And it's not like there's a gem waiting in the wings, a la Greer or Jackson last year. Are the Bills best-served sticking with Ellison, or starting JD at MLB and moving Poz to SLB, or something else? If Bowen can recover from his injury, he is going to be a really good player....the guy just seems to have a nose for the ball and very good instincts...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Crowell situation still has me steamed. With him (healthy) in the lineup, the Bills' defense could have been even better. Ellison is decent-enough, but likely not the answer. And it's not like there's a gem waiting in the wings, a la Greer or Jackson last year. Are the Bills best-served sticking with Ellison, or starting JD at MLB and moving Poz to SLB, or something else? When we signed Kawika Mitchell I assumed he'd be the strongside starter because of him being more of a thumper than the other 'backers. If Ellison proves soft in filling Crowell's strongside position, the Bills could hypothetically move Mitchell to the strong side and move Ellison to the weak side where he seems, conventionally speaking, to be more of a fit.
Chandler#81 Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Raiders seem to be fairly effective running off-tackle last week. And Ellison has always been a pussycat when to comes to holding the POA. Unless the Bills are willing to sacrifice some passrush against a rookie QB in order to protect Ellison, this could be the week where we really find out how much we're going to miss Crowell.If this is a heavy topic of conversation next Monday, we may have something to worry about. IMHO, Crowell or not, this is one position I think we're a player away from yet. Not just a 'cover 2' 'backer, but a game-changer ala Briggs, Biscuit. Obviously, we have to figure something out in the interim. I agree, Oakland will test the off-tackle market on us.
BillsWatch Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 There were a lot of lame comments about Jauron and DBs (i.e. perfect team for him is 2 DTs and 9 DBs) but maybe with the defense they have planned they knew they would be using 2 LBs a lot? Personally I'd be happier if we could do a trade for another LB before trading deadline but no one pays me to coach football.
WellDressed Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 If Bowen can recover from his injury, he is going to be a really good player....the guy just seems to have a nose for the ball and very good instincts... Nuzzle nut, were talkiin TODAY!!! yesterday even; not next year.
Steely Dan Posted September 17, 2008 Posted September 17, 2008 The Raiders seem to be fairly effective running off-tackle last week. And Ellison has always been a pussycat when to comes to holding the POA. Unless the Bills are willing to sacrifice some passrush against a rookie QB in order to protect Ellison, this could be the week where we really find out how much we're going to miss Crowell.If this is a heavy topic of conversation next Monday, we may have something to worry about. The Bills should put all 11 guys on the line to stop the run and let Russell throw the ball. If the Bills don't get to Russell first he'll miss the receiver anyway.
Recommended Posts