TheLynchTrain Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Ok - great game by the bills yesterday. I'm not here to bash the bills or Jauron or "temper enthusiasm" like I heard in a few other posts. I'm not second guessing coaching or playcall - I want to see what people think about Jauron's game managment strategy in dealing with the fourth quarter field goal. Now the bills were up by one point with less than 30 seconds left in the game - on the 27 yard line. At this point, I'm thinking - with 29 seconds left, we should go for it here. Granted, it was 17 yards, but we probably could have managed a dump off to a running back, picked up 8-10 yards. Jacksonville would get the ball back on the 20-25 yard line with 20 seconds left and have to drive almost 50 yards to have a shot at a 40-45 yard field goal. Now we all know what happened - Lindell came in and boomed a 43 yarder and the rest is history. His field goal put us up by 4 points - forcing JVILLE to score a touchdown if they wanted the win. My concern was WHAT IF he missed? I'm not the most ardent supporter of Lindell (I know I probably should be) but his notable and untimely misses early in his career have forever scarred me (see week 16 against Pitt -Bledsoe's last year). If he missed, JVILLE gets the ball back on the 35. I think either decision would have been good, but I guess kicking the field goal (and knowing it went in in hindsight) was a better choice. It is good to note that the Cheatriots**** had a similar decision to make with 1:56 left on the Jets 29, leading 19-10, with a 4th and 3. Cassel went for it and hit Welker on a slant - game over after a kneel. Obviously these were different circumstances - they had a 9 point lead, more time on the clock, and obviously only 3 yards to make. You could almost argue that the Pats* would have been better off to kick the field goal and be done with it. The Jets would have then needed 2 TD scores. But Bellicheat was probably scared of a block, or he maybe wanted to shove it down the Jets throat even more. Either way, we won the game and I'm proud that Lindell made the kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Ok - great game by the bills yesterday. I'm not here to bash the bills or Jauron or "temper enthusiasm" like I heard in a few other posts. I'm not second guessing coaching or playcall - I want to see what people think about Jauron's game managment strategy in dealing with the fourth quarter field goal. Now the bills were up by one point with less than 30 seconds left in the game - on the 27 yard line. At this point, I'm thinking - with 29 seconds left, we should go for it here. Granted, it was 17 yards, but we probably could have managed a dump off to a running back, picked up 8-10 yards. Jacksonville would get the ball back on the 20-25 yard line with 20 seconds left and have to drive almost 50 yards to have a shot at a 40-45 yard field goal. Now we all know what happened - Lindell came in and boomed a 43 yarder and the rest is history. His field goal put us up by 4 points - forcing JVILLE to score a touchdown if they wanted the win. My concern was WHAT IF he missed? I'm not the most ardent supporter of Lindell (I know I probably should be) but his notable and untimely misses early in his career have forever scarred me (see week 16 against Pitt -Bledsoe's last year). If he missed, JVILLE gets the ball back on the 35. I think either decision would have been good, but I guess kicking the field goal (and knowing it went in in hindsight) was a better choice. It is good to note that the Cheatriots**** had a similar decision to make with 1:56 left on the Jets 29, leading 19-10, with a 4th and 3. Cassel went for it and hit Welker on a slant - game over after a kneel. Obviously these were different circumstances - they had a 9 point lead, more time on the clock, and obviously only 3 yards to make. You could almost argue that the Pats* would have been better off to kick the field goal and be done with it. The Jets would have then needed 2 TD scores. But Bellicheat was probably scared of a block, or he maybe wanted to shove it down the Jets throat even more. Either way, we won the game and I'm proud that Lindell made the kick. It's like Deja Vu all over again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Should you have made two threads on the same thing.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 yes, yes we should have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corp000085 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 the coaching staff obviously had confidence in lindell to make that kick. he was asked to make a crucial kick and he did. Now, if there was no confidence in lindell, i'm sure the bills would have either gone for it or done a pooch punt and put the faith in the defense. However, they made it... not a totally ballsy call, but a call that a winner should make. none of that play not to lose crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 The original post is insane. You ALWAYS try to go up by 4 when you're ahead by 1. It makes the other team's task more difficult plus a fieldgoal DOESN'T BEAT YOU! The Patriots were up by 9-no friggin comparison! Even a Jets' TD doesn't beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Now the bills were up by one point with less than 30 seconds left in the game - on the 27 yard line. At this point, I'm thinking - with 29 seconds left, we should go for it here. Granted, it was 17 yards, but we probably could have managed a dump off to a running back, picked up 8-10 yards. Jacksonville would get the ball back on the 20-25 yard line with 20 seconds left and have to drive almost 50 yards to have a shot at a 40-45 yard field goal. Yeah, I was wondering about that call also. Maybe the real question should be why is T.E. throwing on 3rd down that close with the lead? Does the clock stop on a change of possession inside 2:00 minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 Yeah, I was wondering about that call also. Maybe the real question should be why is T.E. throwing on 3rd down that close with the lead? Does the clock stop on a change of possession inside 2:00 minutes? I would guess the play was: if a receiver is open, hit him, otherwise take the sack. The clock always stops on a change of possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I would guess the play was: if a receiver is open, hit him, otherwise take the sack. The clock always stops on a change of possession. I don't think so, because a sack almost takes you out of field goal range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynchMob23 Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 I don't think so, because a sack almost takes you out of field goal range. Actually Socal, on the press conference Jauron said that was designed to do that - either be a run by the QB or he can take the sack if nothing's open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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