In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 NFL Total Access segment on officiating with Mike Pereira, VP of NFL Officiating. Strange way to describe the legality of the play... it could have been illegal, but it wasn't
Campy Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 it could have been illegal, but it wasn't ... and Belichck could have been a man had he been born with balls.
devldog131 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 as long as you don't disguise the guy who lines up wide as part of a substitution package(i.e. sending hime on or off with a group of players and having him stop at the sideline) it is legal. In the game, Denney came out initially with the kicking team, checked in with the referee, and then went out wide by himself, not in a group heading off the field.
eball Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 Pereira didn't imply that the Bills ran an illegal play; he was merely making the point that a team may not use a "departing or entering" player in a deceptive manner. Denney obviously wasn't "departing" since he wasn't a member of the Bills' 3rd down offense a play earlier, and when he entered he reported to the huddle (and to the official), so he didn't just "hang out" near the sideline before lining up. Bottom line -- nothing wrong with what the Bills did.
reddogblitz Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 I like how the MC said the pass was complete to Brian Denney. I also like Mike Pereira's comment at the end that he didn't want to be struck by lightning. Funny.
ACor58 Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 i got a link the a Pats* report Go down to NFLTA: Official Review. (4th column, 3rd row).
robkmil Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 ... and Belichck could have been a man had he been born with balls. If my aunt had a sac she'd be my uncle. -Jim Brinson
DrFishfinder Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 NFL Total Access segment on officiating with Mike Pereira, VP of NFL Officiating. Strange way to describe the legality of the play... it could have been illegal, but it wasn't I'm half surprised the zebras didn't throw a flag on that play and then make up some hokey ficticious rule on the spot ("Player Lined Up In The Nether Regions"). All seasoned Buffalo fans are well aware of the Nefarious Football League's thinly veiled conspriacy to throw bogus flags at the worst possible moment on the Bills....wink wink nudge nudge....sort of.
Campy Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 If my aunt had a sac she'd be my uncle. -Jim Brinson That's the old Empire guy, right?
keepthefaith Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 as long as you don't disguise the guy who lines up wide as part of a substitution package(i.e. sending hime on or off with a group of players and having him stop at the sideline) it is legal. In the game, Denney came out initially with the kicking team, checked in with the referee, and then went out wide by himself, not in a group heading off the field. So did the refs announce that #92 is an eligible receiver?
RJ (not THAT RJ) Posted September 11, 2008 Posted September 11, 2008 So did the refs announce that #92 is an eligible receiver? Are they required to announce it, or is the player merely required to report to them? I have heard the officials make such announcements, but am not sure that is always so.
Bob in SC Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 If my aunt had a sac she'd be my uncle. -Jim Brinson Probably not, unless your uncle had his own secret anatomy. But, what if Eleanor Roosevelt could fly?
Just Jack Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 So did the refs announce that #92 is an eligible receiver? Are they required to announce it, or is the player merely required to report to them? I have heard the officials make such announcements, but am not sure that is always so. I do not recall hearing an announcement.
The Dean Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Are they required to announce it, or is the player merely required to report to them? I have heard the officials make such announcements, but am not sure that is always so. If they are required to do so, then they screw it up a lot. I may have heard that announced in a handful of games I have seen.
The Dean Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Pereira never suggests that this play was illegal.
In-A-Gadda-Levitre Posted September 12, 2008 Author Posted September 12, 2008 Pereira never suggests that this play was illegal. yes, I didn't mean to insinuate that he did. It was just weird the way it went down with Rich Eisen starting out by saying "I'm told that you have some issues as to whether or not this play is legal" then he says, of course it was a legal play, but I wanna make sure everyone understands... about lingering
Mark Long Beach Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 If they are required to do so, then they screw it up a lot. I may have heard that announced in a handful of games I have seen. Don't they announce it only when the eligible number is on the line of scrimmage? So if the player is out wide, he's clearly in an eligible position...
eball Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 Don't they announce it only when the eligible number is on the line of scrimmage? So if the player is out wide, he's clearly in an eligible position... That makes sense. Also, this was a ST play -- a FG attempt. I've never in 30+ years of watching the NFL heard any sort of "so-and-so is reporting as eligible" announcement on a ST play.
rockpile Posted September 12, 2008 Posted September 12, 2008 That makes sense. Also, this was a ST play -- a FG attempt. I've never in 30+ years of watching the NFL heard any sort of "so-and-so is reporting as eligible" announcement on a ST play. True, especially since they have a defensive end lining up as an offensive wideout. Apparently there was already confusion on the Seattle side. They only had ten players out there, sent the 11th in late, and no one picked Denney up. I have a feeling if he was covered, Lindell makes the kick. Bill Game Highlights Select tab for Teams/Buffalo Bills and watch full highlights "Buffalo 43, Seattle 10" (3:46) or select Ryan Denney "Can't miss play: Sneaky Bills" (:58) to just watch that play. The announcer calls it a return (to Buffalo?) gift from April to DeHaven.
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