John from Riverside Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Should we have taken a linebacker instead? - Greer showed last year he was a good corner - McGee is entrenched - Yobuty showed enough to beat out a veteran in James - Corner is suprising We knew that the Crowell situation was going to go bad sooner or later because he is going to be a free agent. We a good pick to take a start early linebacker hmmmmmmm
DrDawkinstein Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 are you asking if the FO should have known exactly how camp and preseason was going to play out? im pretty sure they did as good of a job as possible working with the info they had at the time. Crowell was not exactly going to be a high-priced, hard to sign FA
GhostsOfTheRockpile Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Should we have taken a linebacker instead? - Greer showed last year he was a good corner - McGee is entrenched - Yobuty showed enough to beat out a veteran in James - Corner is suprising We knew that the Crowell situation was going to go bad sooner or later because he is going to be a free agent. We a good pick to take a start early linebacker hmmmmmmm This is a pretty weak argument. I'll give you McGee, but... 1 - Greer did not show he was a "good" corner last year. He showed he was serviceable. 2 - You're using events of the last month (camp, pre-season) to prove a point about an event several months ago (the draft). Nobody knew Youbouty or Corner would show "enough to beat out a veteran" or be "surprising." If they had drafted a LB but Youbouty stunk up the joint in pre-season and Corner played down to the level of a high-round pick, would you be complaining that they shouldn't have drafted a LB and should instead have taken McKelvin? 3 - the Bills DID draft a LB... he got hurt in the preseason and is out for the year. Nothing you can do about that.
QB Bills Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 This is a pretty weak argument. I'll give you McGee, but... 1 - Greer did not show he was a "good" corner last year. He showed he was serviceable. 2 - You're using events of the last month (camp, pre-season) to prove a point about an event several months ago (the draft). Nobody knew Youbouty or Corner would show "enough to beat out a veteran" or be "surprising." If they had drafted a LB but Youbouty stunk up the joint in pre-season and Corner played down to the level of a high-round pick, would you be complaining that they shouldn't have drafted a LB and should instead have taken McKelvin? 3 - the Bills DID draft a LB... he got hurt in the preseason and is out for the year. Nothing you can do about that. Not weak at all...Greer was much better on coverage last year than McGee. His hands may not be as soft, but I'd rather put Greer against the opposing team's top receiver this year than McGee.
MattyT Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 First of all...who are we talking about at our draft position? (forget the trade down scenario) Rivers and Meyo were already gone and there wasn't another LB taken until the second round.
Captain Hindsight Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Should we have taken a linebacker instead? - Greer showed last year he was a good corner - McGee is entrenched - Yobuty showed enough to beat out a veteran in James - Corner is suprising We knew that the Crowell situation was going to go bad sooner or later because he is going to be a free agent. We a good pick to take a start early linebacker hmmmmmmm Who would you have had them take? I like McKelvin alot i think hes gonna be a special player for us. Keep this in Mind, Greer is in a contract year and the Bills did draft Alvin bowen later in the draft who unfotunitly got hurt. Maybe this situation wouldnt seem as bad if he was healthy
billybob Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 No LBs out there worth the pick- the value was CB OL and RB
TE2LEEn08 Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 All of these points are great plus take a look at the LB's in this year's draft. James Laurinaitis Rey Maualuga Brian Cushing All 3 of those guys are sure fire 1st Rounders.
kota Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Rivers and Meyo were gone by the time the Bills picked so no.
John from Riverside Posted September 5, 2008 Author Posted September 5, 2008 Just throwing it out there for debate. There were no LB's available at that draft pick but maybe a trade down scenario? Point taken on Yobuty and Corner....we didn't know about those guys, but Greer i gotta disagree with.....there were many games last year (after he finally got to play) that he was our best corner.
jarthur31 Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Should we have taken a linebacker instead? - Greer showed last year he was a good corner - McGee is entrenched - Yobuty showed enough to beat out a veteran in James - Corner is suprising We knew that the Crowell situation was going to go bad sooner or later because he is going to be a free agent. We a good pick to take a start early linebacker hmmmmmmm Not with Poz returning and the signing of Mitchell. The reason we took a DB was because we had some question marks in this unit still. Webster left, Youboty looked like a bust and who did we have behind Greer and McGee?
kota Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Not with Poz returning and the signing of Mitchell. The reason we took a DB was because we had some question marks in this unit still. Webster left, Youboty looked like a bust and who did we have behind Greer and McGee? James Hall..... Haha. I really think our Secondary is one of the best in the NFL right now room to be the best.
jarthur31 Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Not weak at all...Greer was much better on coverage last year than McGee. His hands may not be as soft, but I'd rather put Greer against the opposing team's top receiver this year than McGee. I wouldn't go that far but Greer certainly didn't do anything to embarrass himself last year. It's funny to read statements here proclaiming McKelving a starter already over Greer. Jabari worked his tail off and has earned his spot.
marauderswr80 Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 I like McKelvin, but I have a bad feeling hes another Devin Hester........
H2o Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 First of all...who are we talking about at our draft position? (forget the trade down scenario) Rivers and Mayo were already gone and there wasn't another LB taken until the second round. Exactly. I think that if Rivers were on the board at pick #11 we would've been to the poteum in about 30 seconds. We got the "supposed best" at a position of need for our team. Again.
OCinBuffalo Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 Rivers and Meyo were gone by the time the Bills picked so no. This is what I was gonna say. Even if we knew about Crowell's stunt, the value wasn't there at our pick. We would have been accused of "reaching" had we taken a LB by Mortensen and Kiper. So, it's a no-win situation, which of course means the haters are always right no matter what we do.
ganesh Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 McKelvin was picked with the intent that he will be a superstar corner on this team in coming years. Greer, McGee are OK corners, but not super-talent...McKelvin is...once he understands the NFL game.
SuperKillerRobots Posted September 5, 2008 Posted September 5, 2008 McKelvin was picked with the intent that he will be a superstar corner on this team in coming years. Greer, McGee are OK corners, but not super-talent...McKelvin is...once he understands the NFL game. Absolutely (the best 100th post ever)
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