Obama's Speech

[swede316]

Poor kid from mixed-race marriage goes to Harvard Law, becomes editor of Harvard law review, graduates with distinction, becomes a community organizer in low-income neighborhood, has taught Constitutional Law at a major law school for over a decade, has been a state legislator, a Senator, gave a Democratic Presidential Convention keynote address, and WON, not handed, WON a presidential primary to become the first ever person of color to be nominated for president by a major political party. I'd say he's got a pretty good deal of accomplishments on his resume.

Wow...How's that different from alot of us (politics aside)...Alot of us have accomplished masters degrees from top universities, served in the military, led companies, and help the community. I bet many of us here are more qualified than Obama to lead the country but we didn't marry a hot chick who makes 3 million a year.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

Bush could have the same script in front of him and would make a mockery of it. "Putting on the show" is a big part of being President. Sad but true: "Acting" presidential is almost more important in today's world. Bush's presence, public speaking, and general mannerisms are quite frankly, embarassing. Watching Bush speak at a podium next to a polished professional (say, like Tony Blair) is an absolute joke every time.

 

I agree, Obama hasn't done much other than make grand-scale promises to achieve end results, without much substance of a means to those ends. But he commands respect, and it will be a welcome change to respect the man in the White House again. I hate cringing when I hear that Bush is making an overseas trip to meet with [insert world leader here] because I'm nervous about HOW HE WILL REFLECT ON AMERICANS LIKE ME.

 

The big knock on Obama is lack of experience, especially on the world stage....Well, Bush surrounded himself with some of the most experienced leaders and politicians in the world- Cheney, Rumsfeld, Powell- and look how they bumbled their foreign policy for eight years. I'll take prudent judgement over the media talking point of "experience" any day. It is sickeningly overrated.

 

As for McCain, there's not much to say. People don't want to vote for Obama because of superficial reasons like "He attended a Muslim school?" That's fine, that's why we all get a vote. My superficial reason for not voting for McCain is age, and age alone. I do not want an 80-year old in the White House (which is what McCain would be if he spent 8 years in office) and I prefer that my President can put his own shirt on. McCain cannot.

 

Nowhere in my post did I say President Bush was a better speaker. I realize much of America is infatuated with a good actor more than somebody with substance. Hell look at all the moronic shows about celebrities lives. I'm not a big fan of either candidate, but to get that excited about a guy reading from a script is a little over the top.

[Johnny Coli]

Wow...How's that different from alot of us (politics aside)...Alot of us have accomplished masters degrees from top universities, served in the military, led companies, and help the community. I bet many of us here are more qualified than Obama to lead the country but we didn't marry a hot chick who makes 3 million a year.

The poster suggested Obama had never accomplished anything, when in fact he's accomplished quite a lot. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying he's only gotten to this point in history because his wife was rich? If that's the point you're trying to make you're an idiot. Her father worked at a city water plant and her mother was a secretary. She and Obama met when they were both fresh out of law school. She had no more money at the time than he did.

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

The poster suggested Obama had never accomplished anything, when in fact he's accomplished quite a lot. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying he's only gotten to this point in history because his wife was rich? If that's the point you're trying to make you're an idiot. Her father worked at a city water plant and her mother was a secretary. She and Obama met when they were both fresh out of law school. She had no more money at the time than he did.

 

 

I may not agree with you on this topic, but kudos for not using the typical "your an idiot".

[Cugalabanza]

The poster suggested Obama had never accomplished anything, when in fact he's accomplished quite a lot. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying he's only gotten to this point in history because his wife was rich? If that's the point you're trying to make you're an idiot. Her father worked at a city water plant and her mother was a secretary. She and Obama met when they were both fresh out of law school. She had no more money at the time than he did.

I love how the Obama critics are flailing. So many arguments that begin, "Yes, he's intelligent and has accomplished a lot and is genuinely committed to helping people, but... [insert meaningless objection]."

[John Adams]

I'd say he is more like Rearden.

 

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In that they are both men, I agree.

[Chef Jim]

I love how the Obama critics are flailing. So many arguments that begin, "Yes, he's intelligent and has accomplished a lot and is genuinely committed to helping people, but... [insert meaningless objection]."

 

Sorry, but raising my taxes is not a meaningless objection.

[TC in St. Louis]

i know its the wrong board but i am personally a republican but i believe Bush has done a terrible job but im still going to vote for mccain. Mccain has never shown himself to be off the wagon and crazy i feel like he would be a safe choice. Something about a man that REFUSES to say the pledge of allegiance and schooled in muslim schooling makes me a little nervous, thats just me. Incase your wondering thats Obama im talking about

 

I always thought Harvard was a fine American university. I had no idea it was Muslim schooling. I don't believe for one nano-second that Obama refuses to say the pledge of allegiance. He ended his speech with God Bless America.

[swede316]

The poster suggested Obama had never accomplished anything, when in fact he's accomplished quite a lot. Not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying he's only gotten to this point in history because his wife was rich? If that's the point you're trying to make you're an idiot. Her father worked at a city water plant and her mother was a secretary. She and Obama met when they were both fresh out of law school. She had no more money at the time than he did.

No..I'm not an idiot...well some would digress...The point I'm trying to make is that you have to be rich to run for office. Me or you might have some serious credentials but could never run for office simply because of income.

[stuckincincy]

"They love me! They really, really love me!" - Jim Carrey, in The Mask.

 

[swede316]

Sorry, but raising my taxes is not a meaningless objection.

Yep, that and gun control...Obama must be defeated.

[Chilly]

Yes. They may not help me personally... They may hurt me... But, IMO they will help people that I feel need more worthy.

 

Is this what our government is in the business of doing?

 

I'm voting for the young buck because angry old people are a dime a dozen. And we already elected a stupid hick (twice) who are also a dime a dozen. Dime a dozen guys aren't the answer, and neither are 72-year old career Washington insiders whose claim to fame is getting shot down in an airplane.

 

A young, fresh, black man has NEVER failed as El Presidente de Los Estados Unidos. Plenty of crotchety old white men have been bad presidents.

 

Age and Race determine the success of a President?

 

I would prefer if the spokesperson of my country could actually carry respect in today's global marketplace. It's been 8 years since that has happened. Obama has my respect and he seems to have the respect of the leaders and people of the world. McCain? I respect his military and public service, but his Republican nomination seems like he has outlasted them with failed presidential bids in the past, to where they said, "Ok, let's give it to this old guy, I can't really think of anyone else..."

 

I'd like to see the proof you have about McCain not being respected by other countries.

 

McCain, more of the same....blah blah blah. Running on the platform of "Vote for me, 'cause I'm not the other guy" is meaningless to me. Same old same old. Dems can claim they are totally different and promise the world. They come up with a few catchy slogans, have a family reunion on stage, and that's supposed to translate into a good president? It makes no difference. Obama hasn't done one thing that is noteworthy, and has no credentials beyond being a good bullsh*tter and telling people what they want to hear. I don't trust the guy, and am convinced he will say ANYTHING to get votes, and doesn't have any opinions of his own. As far as i can tell there is no substance to all his promises. The devil is in the details, and I have yet to hear one detail that makes any sense. Most of his promises sound empty and unrealistic to me, and pretty much impossible to accomplish without creating a socialist society. If I wanted 70% income tax and a country where there is no motivation or reward for hard work, I would move to Sweden, live off the Gov't, and be mediocre.

 

Honestly, I don't know that it matters who gets elected. Nothing in Washington EVER changes. It is and will continue to be the same old krap. I don't know much about Mccain, but I vote for him because "he's not the other guy". I vote for McCain because my taxes will go up if Obama wins. I vote for McCain becuase I don't believe in or trust the Obama hype that the Dems have used to make him seem larger than life with smoke and mirrors. It is all hype.

 

^^^ - This. Vote Libertarian.

[Buftex]

I love how the Obama critics are flailing. So many arguments that begin, "Yes, he's intelligent and has accomplished a lot and is genuinely committed to helping people, but... [insert meaningless objection]."

 

 

Because voting for, and backing a retard for 8 years turned out so well...

[HardyBoy]

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In that they are both men, I agree.

 

Both worked extremely hard to get where they are trying to go, and I hope that Obama would quit before he had to compromise himself past a certain point. He also seems to have developed his relationship with his wife based on an equal admiration for their value to one another. I was thinking d'Anconia before he dropped out, but he came from too much money to make the analogy work. However, his political views are probably more in line with Obama, and I hope he isn't analogus to that fat deuche, that dude is more like Bush or unfortunetly McCain at this point.

[LongLiveRalph]

I'd like to see the proof you have about McCain not being respected by other countries.

 

Here you go

[Chilly]

Here you go

 

Ah, cool, so it's a talking point and no more.

[Chilly]

Because voting for, and backing a retard for 8 years turned out so well...

 

Too bad no matter which candidate from the two main parties wins, we're going to get another one...

[TC in St. Louis]

Poor kid from mixed-race marriage goes to Harvard Law, becomes editor of Harvard law review, graduates with distinction, becomes a community organizer in low-income neighborhood, has taught Constitutional Law at a major law school for over a decade, has been a state legislator, a Senator, gave a Democratic Presidential Convention keynote address, and WON, not handed, WON a presidential primary to become the first ever person of color to be nominated for president by a major political party. I'd say he's got a pretty good deal of accomplishments on his resume.

Yeah, I posted that I thought he was impressive, and this person tells me to meet more people.

Okay, Bobby McCabe won the WNY burping contest in 1982. That was pretty good, I forgot. That's better than being the first non-white guy to be nominated for President. And Dewey Butts was voted Least Likely to Reproduce. Let's not forget him.

[LongLiveRalph]

Ah, cool, so it's a talking point and no more.

 

Impressions are everything. A connection to Bush is a tumor for a politician at the moment. President Bush does not carry respect on the world stage, as a person. He is respected because he has the most powerful military in the world behind him. McCain will be seen as "more of the same" and connected to the same regime that has made a complete bumble!@#$ of foreign policy, even with their boatloads of "experience."

[Chef Jim]

Ah, cool, so it's a talking point and no more.

 

Were they topping or breaching in that photo?