finknottle Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Discrediting real military service seemed to work well in the last election. But you're right, getting shot down in a plane is certainly automatic presidential material. He was a career officer, not a short-timer like Kerry. Among other things, he was the commanding officer of a base in Florida. That meant that he has at least *some* experience running an organization. Remind me again how many people Obama has had working under him outside of election campaigns? 4 or 5 staffers?
finknottle Posted August 28, 2008 Posted August 28, 2008 Actually maybe they should- 2004- Bush beats Kerry 2000- Bush beats Gore 1996- Clinton beats Dole 1992- Clinton beats Bush 1988- Both candidates had active millitary experience 1984- I have no clue about Mondale 1980- Reagan beats Carter Actually, this shows that having managed a state trumps being a legislator. 2004 - Governor beats Senator 2004 - Governor beats Senator 1996 - Governor beats Senator 1992 - Governor beats Governor 1988 - Governor beats Governor 1984 - Governor beats Senator 1980 - Governor beats Governor
JK2000 Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Actually, this shows that having managed a state trumps being a legislator. 2004 - Governor beats Senator 2004 - Governor beats Senator 1996 - Governor beats Senator 1992 - Governor beats Governor 1988 - Governor beats Governor 1984 - Governor beats Senator 1980 - Governor beats Governor That's a good point too.
VABills Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Actually, this shows that having managed a state trumps being a legislator. 2004 - Governor beats Senator 2004 - Governor beats Senator 1996 - Governor beats Senator 1992 - Governor beats Governor 1988 - Governor beats Governor 1984 - Governor beats Senator 1980 - Governor beats Governor Well when Romney is named, at least one will have a former governer on the ticket. Of course I was hoping the messiah would take Kaine. Please...... Of course kaine still hasn't made it back to Virginia. He still thinks it borders Delaware.
/dev/null Posted August 29, 2008 Author Posted August 29, 2008 Actually, this shows that having managed a state trumps being a legislator. 2004 - Governor beats Senator 2004 - Governor beats Senator 1996 - Governor beats Senator 1992 - Governor beats Governor 1988 - Governor beats Governor 1984 - Governor beats Senator 1980 - Governor beats Governor Refresh my memory. Which state was GHW Bush the Governor of
BillsNYC Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 They're saying Sarah Palin! Just who I wanted!
JK2000 Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Refresh my memory. Which state was GHW Bush the Governor of He's probably arguing that being VP is comparable in executive experience as being a governor.
PastaJoe Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 They're saying Sarah Palin! Just who I wanted! And if it is, the first question from millions of Americans will be; Who?. Wasn't she a former beauty queen? If so, Cindy might want to watch her back, what goes around comes around.
/dev/null Posted August 29, 2008 Author Posted August 29, 2008 And if it is, the first question from millions of Americans will be; Who?. Wasn't she a former beauty queen? If so, Cindy might want to watch her back, what goes around comes around. You start out with a valid point, but unfortunately regressed right back into your blind hatred of "them" But anyways, back to your rare valid point (every once in a while even a blind squirrel finds a nut) Palin = Geraldine Ferraro......Who?...Oh a woman
JK2000 Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 You start out with a valid point, but unfortunately regressed right back into your blind hatred of "them" But anyways, back to your rare valid point (every once in a while even a blind squirrel finds a nut) Palin = Geraldine Ferraro......Who?...Oh a woman I still think this is a curveball meant to grab the spotlight from Obama. It's Romney.
John Adams Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Impressive that hours before the announcement, no one still knows. No name would surprise me. Very different from the Obama leaks.
Bishop Hedd Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 They're saying Sarah Palin! Just who I wanted! Well Fox is saying that so take it for what it's worth. Give McCain credit for paring off a couple drips like Plenty and Mittsy from the list. Still, who the fuk is Sarah Palin....honestly? What a lame choice. He would probably have been better off choosing Huckleberry.
BillsNYC Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Still, who the fuk is Sarah Palin....honestly? What a lame choice. He would probably have been better off choosing Huckleberry. Appeals to conservatives...and women (24% undecided)....and has no ties to Washington or Bush. Bob Beckel is shrinking in his seat amazed at this potential news....that'll tell you something.
VABills Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Impressive that hours before the announcement, no one still knows. No name would surprise me. Very different from the Obama leaks. We know why one has a clearance and why the other candidate can't get a clearance.
Bishop Hedd Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Appeals to conservatives...and women (24% undecided)....and has no ties to Washington or Bush. Bob Beckel is shrinking in his seat amazed at this potential news....that'll tell you something. Huckleberry appeals to cons to. I never heard of this woman before I woke up an hour ago and I actually follow politics. How is this choice going to excite the average voter? I still think it's Joe Lieberman and until I hear differently I'm going with him.
erynthered Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 I never heard of this woman before I woke up an hour ago and I actually follow politics. I still think it's Joe Lieberman and until I hear differently I'm going with him. Go back to bed. You're still dreaming.
Bishop Hedd Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 MSNBC's Morning Joe now has Lieberman in Dayton where McCain is set to make his announcement.
finknottle Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 Refresh my memory. Which state was GHW Bush the Governor of Thank you - you are quite correct. GHW Bush was not a governor, yet he beat Governor Dukakis. My 'real' thesis is that experience managing large organizations is rewarded, for which Governor is a proxy and legislator is the antithesis. For what it's worth, Bush I worked in the oil industry for 15 year, founding and heading a company during that period, and also was DCI (in addition to being a congressman, ambassador to the UN, and to China). He packaged himself sucessfully as having real-world management experence. He ran on his business creditentials, not his legislative ones. So I really consider 1988 almost as 'manager beats manager'
finknottle Posted August 29, 2008 Posted August 29, 2008 He's probably arguing that being VP is comparable in executive experience as being a governor. Nah. I was simply wrong.
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