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That's not entirely fair. It was legitimately hyperbole, and not just pulling sh-- out of his ass. I've seen plenty of Obama-bashing so far here...not much in the "Islamic terrorist" vein, but certainly enough in the "Democratic phony" and "closet socialist" vein.

 

The thing he got wrong is thinking this board is massively slanted to the right. It's just massively slanted to the extremes...and it's normal psychology to perceive the other extreme as somehow being more prevalent than your own. The board's just a microcosm of the nation as a whole in that regard.

 

After avoiding this gem of a thread for the first fourteen pages, I must make one correction Tom. I never posted that the Messiah was a "closet socialist", I think he is a bonafide socialist. Just clariying... :nana:

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Ah, the old broken-clock principle. I'm pretty sure the "DiMaggio-like" line is from the old "Baurle and the Bulldog" morning show that I used to listen to on WGR. Not really sure where they got it from, but I doubt they were the first to use it either. What with Joe DiMaggio being pretty famous and all. I haven't lived in Buffalo in over 5 years and honestly had forgotten where I'd heard it years ago. Is he still using that?

 

Unfortunately, this doesn't prove any of the rest of your thesis. Why don't you go back to work Googling up some evidence that I steal actual political ideas to post here? Seriously, the part where you cherry-picked a sentence or two of mine and then found kinda-sorta similar blog or YouTube links in an effort to prove.....something....was one of the most hilarious and desperate attempts to win an argument in the ~5 years I've been reading the board. Yeah, because it's completely impossible for someone to reach my conclusions on their own. And because you typed the exact right words in to Google to find the links I read right before posting here. :nana::lol::lol::lol:

 

Keep at it. It says so much that this is what you're clinging to in the thread -- a false accusation that is 100% impossible to prove. I don't know how, but you were actually doing better with your stupid "leadership" ideas a few pages back.

 

The truth hurts, right? I guess you independently came up with that brilliant "topped not breached" defense?

 

Sound familiar?

But I thought you didn't rely on talking points?

You guys wouldn't be carrying GWB's water would you?

This one even references your Popular Mechanics article you're trying to use to exonerate Bush!

Ahhhhh!!!!

No Mas!!!!!

Hmmmmm.........

What a coincidence????

All these right wingers came up with this on their own?

Just admit you heard this talking point somewhere please.

Please?

Pretty Please?

You really never heard any of your rightwing windbag heroes use this talking point?

 

"But, But, But I ain't ever read dem blogs!"

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Hedd, H*E*D*D. Its my Catholic metal band. And no, I am not Wacka.

 

 

My sincere apologies, Monsignor. :nana:

 

 

Do you really have a Catholic metal band? That's friggin awesome. I like you much better knowing that. Anything on youtube we can check out?

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Does he throw you fish when you clap on command? I've really missed your "me too" posts. Maybe we should have a poll on where you've been?

 

Yeah, I'm not an equal opportunity hater. That crap never gets old. I can't wait for the election when I get called a fence sitter because I refuse to vote for either of the shills you blockheads jump up and down for.

 

Me TOO! :nana:

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P.S. Moved to NYC suburbs.... Wife's family lives there,... it happens, and hey it is the political season again. But really, I am getting less partisan. I just don't like McCain and have some good Republican friends in DC willing to do whatever to defeat him. On the other hand it appears there are some Clinton supporters willing to do whatever to defeat O'bama. Your hope for a fracturing of the parties may yet come to pass. My pick would have been Chuck Hagel.

 

The real reason that I didn't post much was that I had a real job for a while and couldn't post. Also, just missed GhostofBiB (RIP). Now I am starting my own business as a photographer. www.fischerwilliamsphoto.com. Need to update the site already to deal with new realities of flash and do some other stuff with it. So while I work on photos, I keep this up a separate screen. If anyone needs a photographer in the NYC metro area, look me up. P.S. Thank God the Patriots lost last year, the silence in Mass was deafening.

 

Also, the hockey and football are really my favorite sports, politics has become second fiddle.

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:lol::lol::lol: Wow, good work, Columbo.

 

Come on, really? You still think finding blog posts that are sort of similar to what I wrote proves that I didn't come up with the idea or conclusion on my own? You understand that the internet is a big place, right? And that there's a pretty good chance people may make similar arguments -- especially when those arguments are valid. A lot of people on the internet now are predicting an Obama victory in November. Are they all stealing from each other?

 

To put it another way: I'm wearing a gray shirt at work today. Last week, someone else around here probably wore a gray shirt. That doesn't mean I'm wearing the gray shirt today because that other person wore one last week, or that I even know that person or was even paying attention to what they were wearing. It only proves that person and I both own gray shirts and wear them to work.

 

That's the conclusion an intelligent, reasonable person would make. If you want to come to your different conclusion and then waste hours of your life trying to Google evidence (that doesn't exist) afterwards, then please keep at it. :nana:

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:lol::lol::lol: Wow, good work, Columbo.

 

Come on, really? You still think finding blog posts that are sort of similar to what I wrote proves that I didn't come up with the idea or conclusion on my own? You understand that the internet is a big place, right? And that there's a pretty good chance people may make similar arguments -- especially when those arguments are valid. A lot of people on the internet now are predicting an Obama victory in November. Are they all stealing from each other?

 

To put it another way: I'm wearing a gray shirt at work today. Last week, someone else around here probably wore a gray shirt. That doesn't mean I'm wearing the gray shirt today because that other person wore one last week, or that I even know that person or was even paying attention to what they were wearing. It only proves that person and I both own gray shirts and wear them to work.

 

That's the conclusion an intelligent, reasonable person would make. If you want to come to your different conclusion and then waste hours of your life trying to Google evidence (that doesn't exist) afterwards, then please keep at it. :nana:

 

Sort of similiar? You mean exactly the same, right? Why is it that when you're left to your own devices and can't look to the rightwing echo chamber for a lifeline you can only come up with a "gray shirt" analogy?

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Sort of similiar? You mean exactly the same, right? Why is it that when you're left to your own devices and can't look to the rightwing echo chamber for a lifeline you can only come up with a "gray shirt" analogy?

Uh huh, keep telling yourself you've managed to prove something here. There's nothing sadder than someone making a ridiculous claim and then scrambling to find anything they can find on Google to support it.

 

The gray shirt analogy works. You'd be the loon fabricating a wild, detailed story as to why I'm wearing a gray shirt today when someone else did it last week based on the fact that it happened at all. Most people would rather get their facts together and then draw a conclusion, but I'm glad you've discovered a new method that works for you. :nana:

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Uh huh, keep telling yourself you've managed to prove something here. There's nothing sadder than someone making a ridiculous claim and then scrambling to find anything they can find on Google to support it.

 

The gray shirt analogy works. You'd be the loon fabricating a wild, detailed story as to why I'm wearing a gray shirt today when someone else did it last week based on the fact that it happened at all. Most people would rather get their facts together and then draw a conclusion, but I'm glad you've discovered a new method that works for you. :nana:

 

I agree, wearing a gray shirt is the absolutely the same thing as brainlessy regurgitating this lame excuse for Bush's response to Katrina. It's just a coincidence that this same weak justification can be found on thousands of right wing blogs. "But I ain't done read dem there blogs". Well OK but it seems like Fox News certainly got the "topped vs breach" memo as well (Not only can I use Google but I can also use LexisNexis!)

 

"Well, there were news cameras there much of the time, and what the A.P. claimed we learned was that the president had been warned a day ahead of time that the levees stood a good chance of being breached. What, in fact, he was warned was that the levees could be topped." - Brit Hume Fox Sunday Roundtable 3-5-06

 

"Over top means that the water goes over the top, as the word implies. Breaching means that they actually fail, there's a hole in the levee, and a breach is obviously far worse." - WH Spokesman Trent Duffy, Fox Special Report w/ Brit Hume 3-2-06

 

"Some news organizations reported that the tapes showed Mayfield warning that the levees could be breached by the storm, but on the clip released by AP, Mayfield's warning is only about whether flood water could top the levees." - Mike Emmanuel, Fox Special Report w/ Brit Hume 3-2-06

 

Wow, you're using the exact same talking point as a White House spokesman! At least you chose to parrot the view of an impartial observer like Trent Duffy! Just in case you forgot here is your own definition of talking point-

 

A "talking point" is basically where you oversimplify a complex situation, purposely leave out information, or flat out lie as part of a concise little slogan that you can repeat over and over to score political points.

 

I'm sure you never noticed this full court press by conservative blog, television, and talk radio to advance this "topped vs breached" talking point, did you?

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My sincere apologies, Monsignor. :nana:

 

 

Do you really have a Catholic metal band? That's friggin awesome. I like you much better knowing that. Anything on youtube we can check out?

 

 

We used to go by the monicker Porn on the Cob but cleaned it up for mass consumption that'll happen anyday now. Nothing on the net yet but you can catch us at Mohawk Place next month if you're in the vicinity of downtown bflo.

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I agree, wearing a gray shirt is the absolutely the same thing as brainlessy regurgitating this lame excuse for Bush's response to Katrina. It's just a coincidence that this same weak justification can be found on thousands of right wing blogs. "But I ain't done read dem there blogs". Well OK but it seems like Fox News certainly got the "topped vs breach" memo as well (Not only can I use Google but I can also use LexisNexis!)

 

"Well, there were news cameras there much of the time, and what the A.P. claimed we learned was that the president had been warned a day ahead of time that the levees stood a good chance of being breached. What, in fact, he was warned was that the levees could be topped." - Brit Hume Fox Sunday Roundtable 3-5-06

 

"Over top means that the water goes over the top, as the word implies. Breaching means that they actually fail, there's a hole in the levee, and a breach is obviously far worse." - WH Spokesman Trent Duffy, Fox Special Report w/ Brit Hume 3-2-06

 

"Some news organizations reported that the tapes showed Mayfield warning that the levees could be breached by the storm, but on the clip released by AP, Mayfield's warning is only about whether flood water could top the levees." - Mike Emmanuel, Fox Special Report w/ Brit Hume 3-2-06

 

Wow, you're using the exact same talking point as a White House spokesman! At least you chose to parrot the view of an impartial observer like Trent Duffy! Just in case you forgot here is your own definition of talking point-

 

 

 

I'm sure you never noticed this full court press by conservative blog, television, and talk radio to advance this "topped vs breached" talking point, did you?

 

I find your new line of blather amusing, but I confess I'm a bit confused on something: What's your point?

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I find your new line of blather amusing, but I confess I'm a bit confused on something: What's your point?

 

To get his post count over 500 by the start of the season so he can get rid of the rookie label.

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