pBills Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think it's Biden, shores up Obama's Foreign Policy, regardless if you like him or not. Biden can be very aggressive as well. Good attack dog for Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 I think it will be Jesus. A father/son ticket? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I prefer Biden. I actually wanted him as the Presidential nominee before this all started and never truly understood why he didn't get more traction. People always say he has baggage, but what exactly is it? He's very qualified and extremely intelligent, and doesn't always act PC, which is usually a plus not a minus. He's easily the best choice for VP, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UConn James Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 A lot of people are saying it's going to be Biden. Which would be mildly amusing, since Biden's campaign pretty much started and ended on the same day when he dared to call Obama "articulate" and "well-spoken." For some people who hear what they want to hear and everyone's a racist until Revs. Al and Jesse say they're not, that's code for "He's a ni--er!" rather than a statement that someone, in fact, talks eloquently. The MSM had already picked their guy, and didn't let up on Biden until his name was thoroughly muddied. But besides all that, I think Biden would be a solid VP choice. For all those Dems who've been clamoring for party unity/healing a perceived rift, I think Obama knows that if he goes with Hillary, it'll be signing his own death warrant. As it is, Biden will serve as a strong debater and advisor in an area where Obama's cred is light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted August 20, 2008 Author Share Posted August 20, 2008 A lot of people are saying it's going to be Biden. Which would be mildly amusing, since Biden's campaign pretty much started and ended on the same day when he dared to call Obama "articulate" and "well-spoken." He also said Obama was "clean". This too was taken as racist when clearly it was because Obama had just showered and smelled as fresh as a misty spring morning. Tancredo will not pander to Obama's race and is clearly a better match. I think it will be Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Which would be mildly amusing, since Biden's campaign pretty much started and ended on the same day when he dared to call Obama "articulate" and "well-spoken." For some people who hear what they want to hear and everyone's a racist until Revs. Al and Jesse say they're not, that's code for "He's a ni--er!" rather than a statement that someone, in fact, talks eloquently. I am pretty far from PC, but "articulate" and "well spoken?" These often are code words, wouldn't you agree? Look at my favorite current screen name, "Tim Anderson's Lunch Pail." The implication is that white players are not physically gifted, and they get by on effort (otherwise known as "high motor"). People have called Schobel "high motor" for years, but his biggest asset is his speed. Wrt black players, I cringe every time I hear an announcer call someone "well spoken" or "articulate." The implication there is an element of surprise or noteworthiness. Years ago, the phrase for "acceptable" black people was "well dressed." Does anyone remember this? I am certainly not calling Biden a racist. My guess would even be that he is not. Still, if a guy like me can pick up on this, so should a presidential or vice-presidential candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I prefer Biden. I actually wanted him as the Presidential nominee before this all started and never truly understood why he didn't get more traction. People always say he has baggage, but what exactly is it? He's very qualified and extremely intelligent, and doesn't always act PC, which is usually a plus not a minus. He's easily the best choice for VP, IMO. When he ran for President in 88 he lifted part of some English dude's speech without attributing it and Dukakis slammed him for it. I also think he said something recently about Indians owning 7-11's that caused him some grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 When he ran for President in 88 he lifted part of some English dude's speech without attributing it and Dukakis slammed him for it. I also think he said something recently about Indians owning 7-11's that caused him some grief. I thought Obama got called out for the same thing this election season. He stole someones speech. But got a pass because he is the messiah. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8570.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 You may be right, Biden's intrade has skyrocketed today. https://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/...z=1219172629609 By the way isn't this (https://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/common/c_cd.jsp?conDetailID=607629&z=1219173012531) a free 600$? There's no way Obama could be the Democrat VP right? Biden's back down into the 30 range today, Bayh is back up after plummeting, Sebelius and Kaine are up a little, and Clinton dropped to 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I thought Obama got called out for the same thing this election season. He stole someones speech. But got a pass because he is the messiah. That was the Deval Patrick "just words" thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I am pretty far from PC, but "articulate" and "well spoken?" These often are code words, wouldn't you agree? Often, perhaps. Not always. Bush, for example, is not articulate or well-spoken...that doesn't make him black. Obama would be articulate and well-spoken no matter what his skin color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Often, perhaps. Not always. Bush, for example, is not articulate or well-spoken...that doesn't make him black. Obama would be articulate and well-spoken no matter what his skin color. Are you sure? Maybe he bleaches his skin like Michael Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 That was the Deval Patrick "just words" thing. Yet the messiah got away with it. But here you are calling out Biden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 Yet the messiah got away with it. But here you are calling out Biden. I'm not calling out Biden, the guy asked what his baggage was and I answered him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Either way for Hillary's staff to go over the top to help out at the convention by squashing any anti-Obama noise, I have a strange feeling the veep will be Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finknottle Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Obama would be articulate and well-spoken no matter what his skin color. If a short white guy spoke as slowly, ponderously, and unemotionally, people would ignore him and think him slow-witted. He would be viewed like Dukakis, who was pretty articulate but certainly isn't thought of in that light. Come to think of it, Obama sounds most like Al Gore, but with smoother delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Either way for Hillary's staff to go over the top to help out at the convention by squashing any anti-Obama noise, I have a strange feeling the veep will be Hillary. I agree, out of all the VP candidates floated around none would have anywhere near the electoral impact of Clinton. She would guarantee that Obama would hold down Penn and Mich while flipping Ohio. I think Obama has been cool on naming Clinton as VP so that when he actually names her it will be an even bigger media story than if it was a foregone conclusion. Clinton was done to 5.0 yesterday on Intrade, today she is up to 14.9. Insider trading anyone? I see someone with the screenname ChubbyChaserBillyC is buying loads of her contracts! Hmmmmmm......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinton, Bill Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Clinton was done to 5.0 yesterday on Intrade, today she is up to 14.9. Insider trading anyone? I see someone with the screenname ChubbyChaserBillyC is buying loads of her contracts! Hmmmmmm......... Thanks for blowing my cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Thanks for blowing my cover. Not the first time something of yours was blown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Looks like Biden is back up to better than even money while Clinton's odds have surpassed Kaine, Bayh, and Sebelius. Bayh dropped 14.2 overnight, sounds like his staff was selling off his contracts like crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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