JK2000 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I found this on PFT, it's the draft picks the Fins have used on QB since Marino retired. In 2000, they gave up a seventh-round pick for Jim Druckenmiller. In 2001, they coughed up a 2002 sixth-rounder and a conditional seventh-rounder in 2003, and received in return Cade McNown and a 2002 seventh-rounder. In 2002, they dealt a 2003 seventh-rounder for Sage Rosenfels. In 2004, they sent a 2005 second-rounder to the Eagles for A.J. Feeley. In 2005, they shipped Feeley and a 2006 sixth-rounder to San Diego for Cleo Lemon. In 2006, they traded a second-rounder to Minnesota for Daunte Culpepper. In 2006, they sent a sixth-rounder to Detroit, which upgraded to a fifth-rounder, for Joey Harrington. In 2007, they used a second-rounder on John Beck. In 2007, they sent a fifth-rounder to Kansas City for Trent Green. In 2008, they used a second-rounder on Chad Henne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I wouldn't call it bad luck as much as stupidity. Some of the guys they drafted or traded for weren't worth the draft pick. Others they pinned their hopes on were nothing more than career backups or established busts/flops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cody Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 The same can be said for the bills The Bills draft Todd Collins in the 2nd round 1995 Jim Kelly retires after the 1996 season The Bills trade a 3rd round pick in 1997 for Billy Joe Hobert The Bills trade a 1st round pick in 1998 for Rob Johnson The Bills trade a 2003 1st round pick in 2002 for Drew Bleadsoe The Bills trade a 2005 1st round, a 2004 2nd round, and other picks for JP losman in 2004 The Bills use a 3rd round pick on Trent Edwards in 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE GASH STATION Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I found this on PFT, it's the draft picks the Fins have used on QB since Marino retired. In 2000, they gave up a seventh-round pick for Jim Druckenmiller. In 2001, they coughed up a 2002 sixth-rounder and a conditional seventh-rounder in 2003, and received in return Cade McNown and a 2002 seventh-rounder. In 2002, they dealt a 2003 seventh-rounder for Sage Rosenfels. In 2004, they sent a 2005 second-rounder to the Eagles for A.J. Feeley. In 2005, they shipped Feeley and a 2006 sixth-rounder to San Diego for Cleo Lemon. In 2006, they traded a second-rounder to Minnesota for Daunte Culpepper. In 2006, they sent a sixth-rounder to Detroit, which upgraded to a fifth-rounder, for Joey Harrington. In 2007, they used a second-rounder on John Beck. In 2007, they sent a fifth-rounder to Kansas City for Trent Green. In 2008, they used a second-rounder on Chad Henne. In 2007 they also passed on Brady Quinn..who knows if he will be good or not..but if history repeats itself..Miami will be wondering why they didn't take him instead of Ted Ginnmpy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Awesome! Here's to Henne being a bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 The same can be said for the bills The Bills draft Todd Collins in the 2nd round 1995 Jim Kelly retires after the 1996 season The Bills trade a 1st round pick in 1998 for Rob Johnson The Bills trade a 2003 1st round pick in 2002 for Drew Bleadsoe The Bills trade a 2005 1st round, a 2004 2nd round, and other picks for JP losman in 2004 The Bills use a 3rd round pick on Trent Edwards in 2007 Longer time, shorter list, and Bledsoe did make a Pro Bowl. Other than that, valid point ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swift Sylvan Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I found this on PFT, it's the draft picks the Fins have used on QB since Marino retired. In 2000, they gave up a seventh-round pick for Jim Druckenmiller. In 2001, they coughed up a 2002 sixth-rounder and a conditional seventh-rounder in 2003, and received in return Cade McNown and a 2002 seventh-rounder. In 2002, they dealt a 2003 seventh-rounder for Sage Rosenfels. In 2004, they sent a 2005 second-rounder to the Eagles for A.J. Feeley. In 2005, they shipped Feeley and a 2006 sixth-rounder to San Diego for Cleo Lemon. In 2006, they traded a second-rounder to Minnesota for Daunte Culpepper. In 2006, they sent a sixth-rounder to Detroit, which upgraded to a fifth-rounder, for Joey Harrington. In 2007, they used a second-rounder on John Beck. In 2007, they sent a fifth-rounder to Kansas City for Trent Green. In 2008, they used a second-rounder on Chad Henne. So of all of these Qb's which one was the best for Miami? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilannie Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 So of all of these Qb's which one was the best for Miami? Sage Rosenfels had the best 4th quarter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHOUTBOX MONSTER! Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 The same can be said for the bills The Bills draft Todd Collins in the 2nd round 1995 Jim Kelly retires after the 1996 season The Bills trade a 1st round pick in 1998 for Rob Johnson The Bills trade a 2003 1st round pick in 2002 for Drew Bleadsoe The Bills trade a 2005 1st round, a 2004 2nd round, and other picks for JP losman in 2004 The Bills use a 3rd round pick on Trent Edwards in 2007 How the hell did trading a '97 3rd-round pick for Billy Joe Hobert not make this list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hossage Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I think most of those guys would have developed into successful players with a longer tenure on a well coached team with a defense and a running game. I actually feel that that list of players represents underrated talent. Joe Montana couldnt have made marty booker catch. That takes nate clements. ( in fairness to clemens his coverage was good that day when he gave up two hundred some yards in a half, but the dolphins threw and caught.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 So of all of these Qb's which one was the best for Miami? Fiedler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Not that I don't love to see the Dolphins suffer, but, trading sixth and seventh round draft picks, for a potential starting QB isn't the worst football thinking....trading a second for AJ Feely is bad though...trading a second for Culpepper, and never really giving him a chance to play when he was healthy is real stupid too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 How the hell did trading a '97 3rd-round pick for Billy Joe Hobert not make this list? Didn't we give up a third rounder for Craig Nall, or was it a fourth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I found this on PFT, it's the draft picks the Fins have used on QB since Marino retired. In 2000, they gave up a seventh-round pick for Jim Druckenmiller. In 2001, they coughed up a 2002 sixth-rounder and a conditional seventh-rounder in 2003, and received in return Cade McNown and a 2002 seventh-rounder. In 2002, they dealt a 2003 seventh-rounder for Sage Rosenfels. In 2004, they sent a 2005 second-rounder to the Eagles for A.J. Feeley. In 2005, they shipped Feeley and a 2006 sixth-rounder to San Diego for Cleo Lemon. In 2006, they traded a second-rounder to Minnesota for Daunte Culpepper. In 2006, they sent a sixth-rounder to Detroit, which upgraded to a fifth-rounder, for Joey Harrington. In 2007, they used a second-rounder on John Beck. In 2007, they sent a fifth-rounder to Kansas City for Trent Green. In 2008, they used a second-rounder on Chad Henne. So for the most part they have tried to find a QB using 5th - 7th round picks and/or they've traded for guys like Culpepper, Harrington and Green who were clearly done. This represents a pretty sad effort to land a QB. And have they already given up on their two second rounders picked in the last two years? Sheeh....what a mess! Breaks my heart....NOT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Didn't we give up a third rounder for Craig Nall, or was it a fourth? Nall was a free agent. Good call on Billy Joe Gunrack above, though. I'd repressed my memories of his short stay in Buffalo ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Friends Call Me Tebucky Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Rosenfels might be good enough to start in the NFL...mistake in letting him get away. Gotta say Fiedler was the best of that crew though. He looked like ass, but managed not to !@#$ up too much unless Nate Clements was across the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Dave Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 The Bills trade a 1st round pick in 1998 for Rob Johnson That pick turned out to be Fred Taylor, if I'm not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 That pick turned out to be Fred Taylor, if I'm not mistaken. you're not mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JK2000 Posted August 14, 2008 Author Share Posted August 14, 2008 Rosenfels might be good enough to start in the NFL...mistake in letting him get away. Gotta say Fiedler was the best of that crew though. He looked like ass, but managed not to !@#$ up too much unless Nate Clements was across the field. Where is Rosenfels now?????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 Rosenfels is the backup in Houston. Unfortunately, reports out of Miami have Henne looking good. He's already taking snaps as #2 behind Pennington. Beck is a bust and might not make it to opening day unless they keep 4 QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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