scribo Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Thanks again. I am ready for the parents. I have thick skin and a knack for diffusing madness. I have another question for everyone. I am trying to decide which offense to use. The Double Wing is one that seems to really fit what I would like to do -- power mixed with misdirection. But I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the Double Wing, even just seeing it runin person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 Thanks again. I am ready for the parents. I have thick skin and a knack for diffusing madness. I have another question for everyone. I am trying to decide which offense to use. The Double Wing is one that seems to really fit what I would like to do -- power mixed with misdirection. But I was wondering if anyone here has any experience with the Double Wing, even just seeing it runin person? We just primarily run basic dives, sweeps and pitches from your basic pro set or I formation. Sometimes the simpler the better - my philosophy in youth coaching has always been play (win) based on effort and straightforward execution of basic fundamentals - not tricks, exotic schemes or 'coaching genius' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 I understand that, Steve. Thanks. Your earlier post was very helpful, by the way. I believe we agree on what coaching youth football is suppose to be all about -- youngsters having fun while learning and practicing the fundamentals of football and teamwork. I don't think the Double Wing is a gimmick though. I may be completely wrong ion this, and that is why I am posting this question here. The old wedge is the most basic of all football, involving immense teamwork, selfless play that truly depends on everyone to contribute each play. I completely agree that no one at any level below college should try to win based on "coaching genius." But it seems the Double Wing is just straight forward, he who hits hardest and executes best wins. There are counters and bootlegs to keep the defenses honest, which is a basic part of football, but I am thinking it doesn't take much of a "genius" when there are only six plays in your book. Have you ever faced or watched a Double Wing offense? If it is a gimmick, I don't want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I understand that, Steve. Thanks. Your earlier post was very helpful, by the way. I believe we agree on what coaching youth football is suppose to be all about -- youngsters having fun while learning and practicing the fundamentals of football and teamwork. I don't think the Double Wing is a gimmick though. I may be completely wrong ion this, and that is why I am posting this question here. The old wedge is the most basic of all football, involving immense teamwork, selfless play that truly depends on everyone to contribute each play. I completely agree that no one at any level below college should try to win based on "coaching genius." But it seems the Double Wing is just straight forward, he who hits hardest and executes best wins. There are counters and bootlegs to keep the defenses honest, which is a basic part of football, but I am thinking it doesn't take much of a "genius" when there are only six plays in your book. Have you ever faced or watched a Double Wing offense? If it is a gimmick, I don't want to do it. I apologize, with my comment I didn't mean to imply I thought you were falling into the 'coaching genius' trap - I just meant it as a general overall statement. I don't think I've ever played a team that ran it - you are probably right in that any formation/scheme has basic plays then twist plays - I guess I'm just used to considering two backs in the backfield as the most basic straighforward formation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 I apologize, with my comment I didn't mean to imply I thought you were falling into the 'coaching genius' trap - I just meant it as a general overall statement. I don't think I've ever played a team that ran it - you are probably right in that any formation/scheme has basic plays then twist plays - I guess I'm just used to considering two backs in the backfield as the most basic straighforward formation Got it. No problem. The Double Wing has four backs, if you include the quarterback - a fullback and the two wing (half) backs. I'll be interested to hear from anyone who has seen or worked with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffaloed in Pa Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 I agree with most everything in this thread except for the above.Absolutely do NOT do that to those kids. There's not a 9yr old on this planet that needs to be running sprints and doing f'ing grass drills. If you want to teach them monkey rolls or have them run some tapioca relays that'd probably be all right for short stretches if you make it fun(ny). But for gawd's sake please don't try and condition a bunch of little kids who will then forever hate football. what kind of conditioning you talking about. Most kids today are out of shape,except for maybe their fingers from Video games. We are not talking hardcore conditioning here. It will show you who might be your better athletes. I have never had a kid quit after conditioning. It was during tackling drills that one might quit. And yes you have to learn how to tackle the right way or they could get hurt. Just keep the little guys together. You send a little guy against abruiser and there is a good chance he will quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 You send a little guy against abruiser and there is a good chance he will quit. Most coaches with common sense would not do such a thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 what kind of conditioning you talking about. Most kids today are out of shape,except for maybe their fingers from Video games. We are not talking hardcore conditioning here. It will show you who might be your better athletes. I have never had a kid quit after conditioning. It was during tackling drills that one might quit. And yes you have to learn how to tackle the right way or they could get hurt. Just keep the little guys together. You send a little guy against abruiser and there is a good chance he will quit. I recognize that there are way too many fat little Johnnys with calluses on their video game fingers. But you aren't going to change that with a week or two's worth of conditioning. All your going to do is annoy the kids who don't need the exercise and came out to play football, not to do aerobics. The vidkids can get in shape on their own time. Wasting everybody else's time with a bunch of pointless sprints and conditioning drills is only going to make them not want to play ball again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted July 30, 2008 Author Share Posted July 30, 2008 My biggest hang-up with straight conditioning at the level I am talking about here is that our practice time is very limited, and we have a lot of ground to cover in getting these children ready to play. For that reason, I am working conditioning into the instructions. Running hils or doing monkey rolls has lot less value educationally than running or blocking for 10 yards down the field after each play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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